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Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:40 AM Jun 2018

There has to be more than just a pee tape

The Trump Foundation corruption is likely just the tip of the iceberg so it's now clear as day Trump metaphorically has bodies all over the place. We are talking Sleepy Hollow Cemetery numbers of dead bodies. In the meantime Trump KNOWS Mueller is looking under every stone and candy wrapper and yet Trump is as blatant as hell with his praise of Russia and his attempts to divide NATO and make Russia's standing in the world stronger. To me this just seems like more than a pee tape; which begs the question as to what Russia has on him? So I would love to see speculation as to what would drive Trump to risk everything and throw his own country under the bus while under investigation with all the crimes that will be hitting the news stands for the next few months to years.

So what the hell does Russia have on him? Is it just a pee tape? Or something much, much more sinister that could ruin him and his family?

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There has to be more than just a pee tape (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jun 2018 OP
Decades of money-laundering for Russian mobsters and oligarchs is pretty damned sinister, IMHO blogslut Jun 2018 #1
We already know that is coming as Steve Bannon has even talked about this. I think it could be Quixote1818 Jun 2018 #2
I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved in human trafficking, too. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #28
They helped him win the election marylandblue Jun 2018 #3
Sad thing is I'm not entirely sure it's 'illegal'. It's so f***ing blatantly evil that I'm not mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #6
I would argue Nixon was forced out for telling the CIA to shut down the FBI investigation Hamlette Jun 2018 #20
With 80% of the GOP behind him! And we have no Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2018 #21
trump and organized crime thbobby Jun 2018 #4
Follow the money: Garrett78 Jun 2018 #5
Raping An Obviously Underage Child On Tape! DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #7
That would do it. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2018 #8
No, Trumpsters would say she deserved it dawg day Jun 2018 #10
... or that Jesus/God forgives him, and so should I. fierywoman Jun 2018 #22
republicans would say "Jeebus forgives Dirty Donny*" as always Achilleaze Jun 2018 #26
violently. just like jane doe said. mopinko Jun 2018 #29
There's no reason to believe Russians ever used kompromat against donnie unblock Jun 2018 #9
I think you're right. dawg day Jun 2018 #11
He is actually losing money hand over fist now. His brand it toxic Quixote1818 Jun 2018 #13
I don't buy it.... FormerOstrich Jun 2018 #19
Farm animals shenmue Jun 2018 #12
With farm animals he might lose about 50% of his base Quixote1818 Jun 2018 #15
... lamp_shade Jun 2018 #23
I just spit coffee all over lol kamalafan Jun 2018 #25
worse? technotwit Jun 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author technotwit Jun 2018 #16
He's not "being blackmailed" or anything like that. what trump does displays his true self. PSPS Jun 2018 #17
The pee tape would get some giggles from the right... Kablooie Jun 2018 #18
I have some thoughts patty_bateman Jun 2018 #24
What ever it is mercuryblues Jun 2018 #27
Follow the money... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #30
The pee tape is the least important part of this whole fiasco. Iggo Jun 2018 #31

Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)
2. We already know that is coming as Steve Bannon has even talked about this. I think it could be
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jun 2018

even bigger than that.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
28. I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved in human trafficking, too.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:42 AM
Jun 2018

He does love those prostitutes and underage girls, after all. Either that, or they caught him on tape admitting incest with his daughter-wife.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Sad thing is I'm not entirely sure it's 'illegal'. It's so f***ing blatantly evil that I'm not
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:14 AM
Jun 2018

convinced that anyone actually thought to 'codify' laws criminalizing much of what Dump did, exactly.

At least, I won't be surprised to find out that the Drumpf Regime managed to managed to avoid running afoul of any serious felonies wrt taking $$$ from foreign agents to help win an election. Those laws can be awful vague and take years to litigate.

Bottom-line, I have my doubts whether anyone 'thought ahead' enuf to foresee HOW UTTERLY F**KING DEBASED, TRAITOROUS, AND DANGEROUSLY UNAMERICAN THE ENTIRE F**KING GOP ... WOULD ONE DAY BECOME.

Every other POTUS, including W (even though he had a GOP Controlled Congress as well) would've been impeached and removed at least 6 months ago, shortly after the 'Hillary Dirt at Trump Tower Meeting' was uncovered. That'd have BEEN IT for ANYONE. Hell Nixon was forced out pretty much JUST for destroying a little bit of tape, that nobody knows what was on ... because it was OBSTRUCTION ... with the POSSIBILITY that hi-jinks involving 'spying on the opposition' were involved.

Nevermind, conspiring with Russia to cyber-break into DNC headquarters, ILLEGALLY requisition 10's of 1000's of documents, then spread them all over the world ... as CLEARLY F***ING happened ... in TrumpRussia.

But ... Dump has developed himself a Nazi-like, Hate-Driven Cult, so the already spineless GOPpers in Congress are too terrified to do the right thing and act like Americans. They now serve The Cult as well.

Nobody foresaw this LEVEL OF TREASON BEING POSSIBLE.

Now ... the Money Laundering, OTOH.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
20. I would argue Nixon was forced out for telling the CIA to shut down the FBI investigation
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:52 AM
Jun 2018

into Watergate etc. and not the 18 minute gap.

That's what did it for my republican dad. It was on voice tape released just before he resigned.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. trump and organized crime
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jun 2018

both American and Russian. trump and gop are complicit in conspiracy with Russia to win elections. NRA is complicit also. trump is the tip of the iceberg. Paul Ryan's keep this in the family comment comes to mind. The gop is not going to stand up to trump because of their part in the Russian Conspiracy. trump obeys Putin as they are both mobsters who lust for wealth and power.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
10. No, Trumpsters would say she deserved it
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:39 AM
Jun 2018

.. or that he was just disciplining her...
or that she was lucky that he bestowed himself on her...
or that it was just a joke...

or that Hillary's emails were way worse...
or that Tim Kaine really did it...
or it's fake news--
or like my old aunt, "I never heard anything about that, so it doesn't matter."

Let's not underestimate their ability to blind themselves.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. republicans would say "Jeebus forgives Dirty Donny*" as always
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 05:43 AM
Jun 2018

Repubes have demonstated their degenerate values over and over. They are totally OK with Adultery, Lying, Cheating, dirty-dog Diaper Sex with Hookers, and sexual assault, and scamming the taxpayers on behalf of the rich, as long as you claim you are a republican

*aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

unblock

(52,240 posts)
9. There's no reason to believe Russians ever used kompromat against donnie
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:33 AM
Jun 2018

That would imply that Donnie resisted and had to be forced to do something he didn't want to do.

All signs point to Donnie being quite eager to help russia. They clearly motivated him with carrot. Help in getting elected, profit, maybe other things as well.

No doubt they *have* kompromat on him. He's such an easy mark for that. But no reason to think they ever had to use it.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. I think you're right.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:40 AM
Jun 2018

He doesn't act like someone under duress. He's more like someone who has been promised a reward than a punishment.

His daughter made $82 million last year. That's the legal amount they reported. Trump is making more money than ever before. Maybe that's all he cares about.

Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)
13. He is actually losing money hand over fist now. His brand it toxic
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:13 AM
Jun 2018

Snip: By NATASHA BACH Updated: May 31, 2018 1:01 PM ET
Donald Trump may be president of the world’s biggest economy, but that doesn’t mean he’s getting richer.

According to figures compiled by Bloomberg, Trump’s net worth has actually dropped since becoming president.

Trump’s net worth has dropped more than $100 million over the past year, down to $2.8 billion—the lowest since his campaign for president. While that may still be a bigger number than most of us can ever hope to see next to our name, it marks a continued decline for Trump.

This is the president’s second drop in net worth in the last two years. Bloomberg notes that much of the decline can be attributed to falling revenue from his tower on Fifth Avenue in New York and from his golf courses, as well as the loss of buildings in Toronto, Manhattan, and Panama.


http://fortune.com/2018/05/31/donald-trump-net-worth-drops/

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
19. I don't buy it....
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:50 AM
Jun 2018

Look at some of the shenanigan with Jared. Serious $$$s involved. Take a look that the number of people falling all over themselves to suck up.

They may be painting that picture but that don't make it so (IMHO). Plus, it's a great talking point about he sacrifices so much for the poor saps. They should all love him and throw him a parade.

Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)
15. With farm animals he might lose about 50% of his base
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:23 AM
Jun 2018

Because 50% probably have either been with a farm animal or at least fantasized about it.

 

technotwit

(71 posts)
14. worse?
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:20 AM
Jun 2018

rape of underage girls?
I believe there is a lawsuit pending.
Speculating further.. since Repubs didn't think much of pedo behavior in Judge Roy Moore case, what might frighten and disgust Repubs?
Diddling with underage boys?
Tranny-boys?
(trying to think what would freak out Repubs... )

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
18. The pee tape would get some giggles from the right...
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:41 AM
Jun 2018

But nothing more.
It wouldn't affect Trump's support one tiny bit.

patty_bateman

(11 posts)
24. I have some thoughts
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 04:12 AM
Jun 2018

Apologies in advance for the vulgarity in advance.

If I were Putin, I would give him a "gift" that he could not get any other place in the free world. So my first thought on this is that Putin created several Ivanka look-alikes at various ages using plastic surgery ala LA Confidential. I think that some of the Ivankas were underaged, of course.

Then I thought "what is so outlandish that it would break the heads of the right?" and I came up with (sorry, sorry, sorry): Naked Trump, who is actually a Russian citizen, begs Putin for something/money/mercy while room of clothed Russian Oligarchs watch laughing. Putin has some other man {think Ned Beatty in Deliverance} Trump while Trump cries/begs. For good measure, Putin urinates on Trump. A variation would be Trump as into it. Again, I am sorry for this image.

Having said my apologies for the horror above, this scenario hits all the things that the right cannot handle: weakness, losing, begging, men crying, humiliation, gayness, submission and so on. It can't be spun into anything better, dismissed, unseen or forgiven by the majority of MAGA's.

Another theory is whatever story you see published by the National Enquirer about any Clinton or Obama, just replace Clinton + Obama with Trump. Has anyone checked to see if Trump owns a Pizza place with a basement? Or if Melaria is actually a man? Asking for a friend.

Of course, Trump is also laundering money, cheating on his wife, a cheap mobster and rapey, grifting traitor to our country, too. But hell, who doesn't have a tape of that?

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
27. What ever it is
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:27 AM
Jun 2018

Benedict Donald knows it will ruin him.

And it has nothing to with pee tapes or sex with anybody or anything. The so-called evangelicals that make up his base has excused and ignored all of his sexcapades so far. There is no reason to think any different if a pee tape or raping an 8 year old boy or girl was made public.

Donnie has always been a willing sellout to Russia. I have no doubt they have kompromat on him, they just don't need it to make him stay in line. Donnie probably knows what it is and that is why he is pushing a deep-state conspiracy and FBI out to get him so hard. When his financial dealings start to become public, he has his cult ready to scream FAKE NEWS!

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
30. Follow the money...
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jun 2018

as always, follow the money trail. It's been proven that salacious shit about sexual perversion will not tarnish Trump's "image" with his acolytes.

He's up to his fat neck in debt to Russian oligarchs is my suspicion. Even the Trump Foundation crap is probably small potatoes. He's wrecking the Western World so he can build Trump Towers in Moscow and Pyongyang.

Iggo

(47,554 posts)
31. The pee tape is the least important part of this whole fiasco.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jun 2018

It's the money laundering that's important.

He's cleaning money for organized crime.

Whatever they have on him to ensure he helps them do that is whatever they have on him.

Pee tape. Signed confession. Doesn't matter.

What matters are the crimes that he's committing because they have whatever they have on him.

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