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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow to recognize russian trolls in a forum:
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From my personal experience on russian internet-sites I can tell that their primary goal is not to support Trump. Their primary goal is to divide US-society and pit people against each other. That's why russian propaganda supplies both sides: people who love Trump and people who hate Trump.
Russian propaganda treats the US as two separate entities:
- Trump gets favorable treatment.
- The US as a country gets a demonizing treatment.
So, if you love Trump (and by extension the US), you will find articles that support your worldview. And if you hate the US, you will find articles that support your worldview. Trump is only made look bad as a sidenote in articles primarily attacking the US.
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They play fast and loose with facts. Facts don't matter, because these trolls address an echo-chamber or try to create an echo-chamber. There are several basic, yet grave, concepts (such as "you can't trust X" ) that get repeated so often until they have been normalized and serve as foundations for further arguments.
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They emphasize that you can't trust anybody.
You cannot trust the government because they are all evil imperialists or work for Wall Street or the Deep State or are in cahoots with the Clintons.
You cannot trust the media because they work for Wall Street or the Deep State or the Clintons or the Elders of Zion/Bilderbergers/Rothschilds/George Soros.
You cannot trust scientists because the truth is that nobody knows how anything works. ( )
Their goal is to create a climate of anxiousness, isolation, mistrust.
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You can recognize them by the patterns of their comments. They bring up a topic and then use that as an excuse to spread a talking-point. Whataboutism.
And there are firm limits who they are allowed to attack and who they are allowed to treat nicely.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
We had to write ordinary posts, about making cakes or music tracks we liked, but then every now and then throw in a political post about how the Kiev government is fascist, or that sort of thing, she said.
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The trolls worked in teams of three. The first one would leave a complaint about some problem or other, or simply post a link, then the other two would wade in, using links to articles on Kremlin-friendly websites and comedy photographs lampooning western or Ukrainian leaders with abusive captions.
Marat shared six of his technical task sheets from his time in the office with the Guardian. Each of them has a news line, some information about it, and a conclusion that the commenters should reach.
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The trolls were firmly instructed that there should never be anything bad written about the self-proclaimed Donetsk Peoples Republic (DNR) or the Luhansk Peoples Republic (LNR), and never anything good about the Ukrainian government.
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As he spoke decent English, Marat was sent for a test in the English language department... Before he was told he had failed, however, other people in the room were told they had passed the preliminary test and were set to work composing comments on two English-language articles about Ukraine one by the New York Times and another by CNN.
If you think that Democratic Underground is not important enough for Russia to deploy trolls, I would like to remind you that hackers attacked Democratic Underground on election-day 2016 and shut the forum down.
And on a sidenote, in the run-up of the election I regularly got into discussions with a DU-member who was very, very pro-Russia. He joined DU in late 2015. One day before the election he stopped posting and left DU. I do remember his username, but I won't post it here.
drray23
(7,633 posts)they will try to bolster their argument with things like "do your homework". This is a code word for trolls and right-wingers which means i saw it on Fox news or infowars, etc.. so it must be true.
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)There's an increasing number of these OP's on DU now. This activity will increase as the November elections approach. Whether from the left or the right, the purpose is to create divisiveness and chaos in the electorate. The Trumpsters and the so-called revolutionaries know what a Blue Wave will do to their ideological plans--sweep them up like so much flotsam.
Beware!
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Russia is trolling every chat room and everywhere else. The best thing to do is block them and encourage others to do the same. I saw on 60 Minutes(?) or some news show about actual paid troll farms where people were hired to spit out so many comments an hour and to post like an OP piece(?) on forums several times a day. The people next to them or others from a list of ear marked names on a sheet were also people who worked there and they were instructed to bolster each others comments, whatever that took. If they did nt meet their quota...they were warned, then fired. And I don't necessarily think they ruled out that happening in the United States. (ergo paid troll farms). after all, there is quite a burgeoning market we're told for the ugliest Americans who know how to do it, to sell people robot trolls by the 1000's who use some sort of algorithm to argue points they were created to support.
Seems like an anti-algorithm could be created that can tell who's a troll or a bot just by the amount of comments or the 'shpiel' they are promoting. Essentially "troll hunter bots'.