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kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 10:27 AM Jun 2018

I think it's time we stopped referring these holding pens as detention centers

And now refer to them as internment or concentration camps. What they are doing to these children and their families is evil and unconscionable.

This is the USA we made a mistake here in the 1940’s and we know what happened in a Germany. These children and their families are no threat to our country. I fear for these children and the psychological damage being inflicted on them. These internment camps should be closed and we must use the terms internment and concentration camps to ramp up outrage in this country.

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I think it's time we stopped referring these holding pens as detention centers (Original Post) kimbutgar Jun 2018 OP
People that survived actual concentration camps might disagree. Bonx Jun 2018 #1
Do we know what is going on in these detention centers? kimbutgar Jun 2018 #2
No. Igel Jun 2018 #3
Not suspicion read this.. kimbutgar Jun 2018 #8
Well, several ways Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #6
Not all Nazi concentration camps were death camps, you know. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2018 #5
Most people mistakenly think that concentration camps have to look like Auschwitz. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #10
the market knew this was coming... Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #4
I like Internment Camp LanternWaste Jun 2018 #7
thank you kimbutgar Jun 2018 #9

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
2. Do we know what is going on in these detention centers?
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

I also knew someone who lived in one of those camps and another women who was a Hitler youth. The woman who was a hitler youth was told everything was ok with her neighbors who were taken away, there’s was some bad shit going on.

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
8. Not suspicion read this..
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:28 AM
Jun 2018

Appearing on MSNBC an employee at one of the internment centers for immigrant children explained that he quit his job on Wednesday because of what he saw occurring at the Texas facility where he was employed.

Davidson detailed his experience in the shelter.

“These kids were ripped from their parents and did not understand what was going on. The case that really broke the camel’s back for me, was the Brazilian kids. There was no one speaking to them in Portuguese. So they hardly even understood and they didn’t — nothing was ever explained to them well either,” Davidson said.

He said the facility is being run like a private prison.

“It’s a basic private prison deal in the guise of this shelter. So the people at the end of the day, when they have to put the kids to sleep have already worked an eight-hour shift and are often times asked to stay overtime. On top of that, these kids are running up and down the halls screaming, crying for their mom, throwing chairs. Everyone is tired. The under-trained staff are dealing with an increasingly traumatized population of minors.


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/worker-quit-immigrant-child-detention-center-disgust-calls-private-prison-full-traumatized-kids/

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
6. Well, several ways
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jun 2018

There are federal and state child welfare people who inspect them.

The kids are there an average of about 8 weeks before they get reunited with families, so there are plenty of them who have left who can describe what they are like.

The idea of calling them “concentration camps” is absurd on top of being offensive to survivors of real concentration camps. Its the kind of absurd hyper exaggeration that makes people not takenyou seriously, and sometimes I wonder if nonsense like this isn’t coming from right wing or Russian trolls just in an attempt to discredit the left by making us look absurd.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
5. Not all Nazi concentration camps were death camps, you know.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jun 2018

And here is the definition of "concentration camp" according to Merriam-Webster:



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentration%20camp

: a camp where persons (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, or refugees) are detained or confined

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Most people mistakenly think that concentration camps have to look like Auschwitz.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:53 AM
Jun 2018

In fact, they were extermination camps.

Current definitions emphasize that it is the status of the prisoner that defines a concentration camp:

a camp where persons (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, or refugees) are detained or confined.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentration%20camp

a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities,
Google Dictionary

My sig line comes from Dictionary .com.

What the powers-that-be are doing is also ethnic cleansing. currently targeting Hispanics, the administration has made it crystal clear they want to remove as many Muslims as possible too.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. I like Internment Camp
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jun 2018

It's accurate and its historical baggage paints a true picture.

But I'm sure a handful of concerned individuals will pretend it "makes us look bad/stupid" so as to avoid conflicts with their own biases... as well as other alleged, more creative reasons.

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
9. thank you
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jun 2018

The person above who doesn’t like my comment might be having trouble handling this is happening in our country.

There is a lot of bad stuff going on that isn’t being reported in these Twitler session concentration camps.

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