Dershowitz on MSNBC: "Locking someone up before they have been convicted is an anethama to liberty

[sunonmars]

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Alan Dershowitz re:Manafort on MSNBC: "Locking someone up before they have been convicted is an anethama to liberty."

Um.
Each day an estimated 700,000 people sit in jail because they can't afford bail. @AlanDersh can we expect you to speak for these people as well?


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These fucking clowns are making it up as they go along......so "lock her up" wasn't about putting HRC directly to jail.

[BlueJac]

1. K&R

[klook]

2. unless you are a poor person of color who can't pay a traffic ticket,

or a child from a Latin American country whose parents haven't gotten their asylum application processed yet.

[workinclasszero]

35. Bingo

Trump and Sessions are filling up dog kennels full of innocent kids in concentration camps right now!

[Eyeball_Kid]

86. Up next: Summary executions at the border...

“used ONLY as a deterrent.”

[dalton99a]

3. Acclaimed legal scholar doesn't understand how bail violations work

Link to tweet

[Calista241]

76. Technically it's not a bail violation.

Mueller amended his indictment and leveled new charges of witness tampering.

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. The replies to Dershowitz on Twitter are priceless!

[DownriverDem]

14. What a jerk

Witness tampering is a serious offense.

[populistdriven]

70. I found a case worthy of Dershowitz to represent PRO BONO! -

this poor homeless guy is sitting in jail just for touching a baby stroller!

Homeless man busted in attempt to snatch boy, 2, from stroller as parents cross Brooklyn street

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-metro-mom-fends-off-homeless-kidnap-suspect-20180614-story.html

Seriously this would be a step up from Trumph

HELP HIM DERSHY!!!!!!!!!!!

His lawyer, William Folks, said his client was just trying to help.

“To grab the bottom of the stroller does not equal I’m trying to take your child from you,” Folks said. “That does not equate to my client trying to steal their baby.”

“My client had no desire to steal a baby,” the lawyer added. “He didn’t at any point in time touch the baby.”

[elleng]

5. unfortunately this guy proved he's an habitual criminal,

so lock him up. sorry, dersh.

[bigbrother05]

6. And here I was thinking he was criticizing Sessions immigration policy

I'll believe he's a constitutional scholar when he can get Dotard to memorize it.

[yardwork]

81. I though the same at first, but Dershowitz never fails to disappoint.

[neeksgeek]

7. Well, he only means for people like Manafort.

Obviously those other 700,000 are dangerous criminals who should have been taken to jail at birth.

[USALiberal]

8. Bail hurts poor people. Innocent until proven guilty is BS. nt

[mythology]

18. That depends on how it's used

If it's for an unpaid ticket, that's dumb, if it's for a more serious crime, I'm okay with bail or even no bail.

[USALiberal]

59. It is stupid for many crimes. Poor people spend 6 months awaiting trial and lose jobs, etc. nt

[Me.]

9. Tell That To All Black Men Languishing In Jail

without a trial in their future

[NCjack]

57. Tell it to the children in Trumpcells. nt

[ck4829]

75. Boom. Kalief Browder is a tragic example of this.

Where was Dershowitz then?

[frogmarch]

10. Why wasn't Manafort in handcuffs?

I was looking forward to seeing him being led away in cuffs, dammit!



Article excerpt:

When former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort walked into the Washington, D.C. field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) early Monday morning to turn himself in, many waited in anticipation to see embarrassing photographs of Manafort in handcuffs, often called a “perp walk.”

But when the videos surfaced, Manafort was cuff-free.

https://thinkprogress.org/manafort-privilege-white-collar-defendant-ce7dc852eb25/

[ChoppinBroccoli]

11. Um, Mr. Criminal Attorney, You DO Know How Bail Works, Right?

EVERY person arrested is locked up. It's just that most of them are either released (immediately at the police station or later after an arraignment/bond hearing) on their own recognizance (meaning they promise to come back for their court date), or they're given a BOND/BAIL (which means they pay some money to the court as "pledge" to return to court for their court date). It's a contract that you sign with the State saying that you promise to abide by certain rules in exchange for being released. If the person violates the terms of their bond, their bond can be revoked and they will be returned to jail (kinda like what happened with Manafort). But literally EVERYONE who is arrested is locked up.

Funny, you'd think a noted, Harvard-educated legal scholar would know that.

[EffieBlack]

12. I was pleased to see Ari Melber immediately follow his interview by pointing this out

Saying that this happens to African Americans by the thousands but no one speaks up for them and the only reason people seem concerned now is that they're not accustomed to seeking this happen to a white man.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. Yes. I caught that too. I was silently screaming for someone to point that out.

I was so glad when he did exactly that. He also talked about one rule of law for the wealthy and another for the poor.

[EffieBlack]

29. Yes - it was great to see. I do wish that Chris Jansing had checked him in real time during the

interview, though.

[oberliner]

62. Happens to white men by the thousands

Just not rich ones, usually.

[EffieBlack]

63. Yes, Boo - it happens to poor white men, too - to a much lesser extent proportionally, but yes

I certainly didn’t mean to slight white men, but fortunately you’re here to speak up for them to make sure that we don’t forget about them in our efforts to shine a light on the plight of black men.

[sheshe2]

69. ;)

[volstork]

13. Guantanamo, anyone?

n/t

[Chickensoup]

28. Good point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. You mean he's NOT talking about the children separated and locked up to punish their parents?

[knightmaar]

38. that's what I thought from the headline

But no, of course not. He's talking about the millionaire who was caught tampering with witnesses.

[oasis]

16. Dershowitz also claimed "Special Counsel wasted 20 million and

has no indictments to show for it". After he was challenged by the interviewer for the inaccracy of his comment, A.D.said the indictments were not a result of the initial mission of the Special Counsel.

Alan and Trump's half baked legal mind, Rudy Giulliani, both have a discombobulated grasp of LAW.

[uponit7771]

43. Dershowitz should know PapaStupid is hemmed up because he lied about meeting with the Russians durin

... the campaign

Damn, everyone who speaks for Benedict Donald is brain dead

[lsewpershad]

17. Guess with age

This guys brain is not functioning at full capacity.

[BannonsLiver]

23. I sometimes wonder if it's more about Israel

Dershowitz was once pilloried by the likes of Limbaugh for being a liberal but I get the sense this has changed over the years because he probably views the Dems as not being sufficiently pro Israel in his eyes. meanwhile Trump hates Muslims and John Bolton has never met one he didn’t want to see killed, so there is a natural attraction for Alan.

[bettyellen]

45. Or just money and fame, I think the Von Bulow case was a turning point for him. He was seduced by

the rich and famous and gave up any pretense of fighting for people’s rights. He attended my friends wedding maybe 16-17 years back and brought with him 8-9 copies of his book with him- and a much younger trophy wife. So gross.

[smirkymonkey]

79. He brought copies of his book to someone else's wedding?

Ugh! What a low-life!

[bettyellen]

91. Yes! And it was a damned swanky wedding too. Probably the most expensive wedding I ever went to. I

actually saw him enter the reception carrying the stack and he couldn’t have carried one more. HA. What a jerk.

[smirkymonkey]

92. How tacky!

No wonder he's so fond of Trump!

[niyad]

19. hey, genius, maybe you could learn how to spell ANATHEMA before you spout off.

[jayschool2013]

52. Oh, well that's very different.

Never mind.

[niyad]

93. of course it is a minor detail. but one would think that someone with his education

could get an important word like that correct.

[True Blue American]

20. Derschowitz

Has really flipped his cork and MSNBC keeps bringing him on.

He is not senile,just lost his marbles.

[progressoid]

21. I assume he's talking about the kids living in the former Walmart.

[NightWatcher]

24. He's selling a book about the constitutional case against impeaching trump

and now he's on tv pretending to be an interested third party with no motive.

[Vinca]

25. Happens every day, sir. Mostly to people who can't afford high priced lawyers.

[AdamGG]

26. It seems that Dershowitz has become as much of a partisan hack as Sean Hannity

All he cares about is the US being as strongly pro-Israel as possible.

[Dawson Leery]

27. Happens everyday to minorities.

[underthematrix]

30. uh huh

Link to tweet

[TalenaGor]

31. LOL yes we just leave murderers out free while awaiting trial LMFAO

no one ever goes to jail from a DUI till after court, I'm sure

what an idiot lol

[lapislzi]

32. IS THAT SO?

I'm sure the children in the blacked-out Walmart in Texas will be glad of your assistance, Derpowitz. Bring an interpreter. Oh, and fuck you.

[Dave Starsky]

33. WTF planet is he on?

That shit happens all the time. If you're not rich... or white.

[SunSeeker]

34. K & R

[LiberalArkie]

36. Sure it is very seldom that white rich people get locked up in this situation, but

shit happens when the culprit thinks they are above the law.

[Moral Compass]

37. Is Dershowitz a stroke victim?

He keeps saying shit that is simply stupid.

He’s like Ben Carson.

I can’t figure how someone that was so obviously brilliant based on their professional attainment has become such an idiot.

He knows our legal system and knows that we routinely imprison anyone without enough bail money prior to conviction. Yet he says this.

I truly don’t get it.

[geardaddy]

39. Shut up, Assclown.

[Chickensoup]

40. Alan Dershowitz you make me sick.

You think you are smart enough to
hide your real interest in defending Trump.
I have a sneaking suspicion that
you are on his payroll. If you are you should disclose that you have vested interest .
At any rate you are demeaning yourself,
our democratic values our institutions
and the role of law and coming from a
Lawyer that is disgusting.

[librechik]

41. say that to all the millions of black inmates waiting for court dates in jail.

Dershowitz is vile.

[rickyhall]

42. Tell that to all people sitting lockup waiting for trial.

I'm having trouble NOT hating rich people..

[JohnnyRingo]

44. Tell that to regular people who violate their bond.

People go to county lockup every day to await trial because they fail a drug test, contact victims or witnesses, and even for losing a job. Dershowitz should put his money where his mouth is and offer his services to the thousands upon thousands who get bond revoked in America.

At least he'd be too busy getting laughed out of court to go on TV to make stupid claims.

[George II]

46. It seems he and trump are racing to the bottom to see who can reach 100% senility....

....first.

No doubt it'll be a dead heat, and they're at the top of the stretch!

I suppose we should start calling him Derpshowitz?

[Takket]

47. I'm sure if someone gets sentenced to death for treason

The MAGA deplorables will suddenly be against the death penalty too.

[JPK]

48. Alan Doucheowitz

He has become a caricature. I hope the stories about Epstein, he and Trump comes out re: the underage child sex ring they were rumored to have been involved with are true and get released to the public.

[duforsure]

49. No, locking someone up

For witness tampering is not uncommon, or unlawful in any way. Its protecting the trial BY locking him up after he tried to effect a witnesses testimony. That's by the law, not an abuse of it.

[beachbum bob]

50. So Dershowitz doesn't belief a judge has any power to revoke bail? Or

Issue contempt of court rulings?....dementia had set in with this joker

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

51. Dershowitz knows better than that

Manafort violated the terms of his bail.

[TexasBushwhacker]

65. Exactly

The judge threw him in jail because he's been contacting witnesses.

[Renew Deal]

53. He was indicted for new crimes which he committed while on house arrest

Doesn’t seem unfair to me

[Lucky Luciano]

54. Fuck you Dershowitz! Useless scum of the earth. nt

[empedocles]

55. Dersh now a member of the Ghouli legal scholar circle

There may be legal repercussions for these two, that the Huckabee Slanders types will not face

[DFW]

56. Apparently in the dictionary of Legal Dershowese....

The only meaning of "Flight Risk" is a situation where they have let the guys in the cockpit have one martini too many.

[oasis]

71. lol

[Kablooie]

58. All their arguments are designed...

Only to convince people with an IQ of 80.
Ie. the majority of Trump supporters.

[sprinkleeninow]

60. And YOU are an anathema to HUMANITY. no text

[MineralMan]

61. What about those migrant children, you asshat?!?

They haven't even been charged with anything, much less convicted.

Go Roger yourself!

[calimary]

64. HAH. And here I thought he was talking about the children now in virtual incarceration,

having been snatched away from their parents and placed in detention. You can call it whatever you want, but it's detention. They're not free to come and go, they're not free to be with their families, they're not free to be with their parents or siblings - even when they and their siblings have been snatched away from their parents at the same time.

Dershowitz can just EAT it. FORTY-SIX CHILDREN PER DAY, according to the latest estimate I saw a few minutes before posting this.

[Gothmog]

66. Alan is wrong

Link to tweet

[dembotoz]

67. How many more would Jeff dahlmer have eaten ifset free

[MaryMagdaline]

68. But judge, I'm white!

[DeminPennswoods]

72. All Manafort had to do was not commit a crime while

out on bail and he'd be sleeping in his own bed tonight. He was only caught because one of the people he contacted dimed him out.

[spanone]

73. what kind of attorney is Dershowitz if he has no problem with witness tampering?

[ck4829]

74. LOL

[bronxiteforever]

77. Tampering with witnesses while free on bail is

anathema to remaining free on bail.

[GoCubsGo]

78. By his logic, Joseph James DeAngelo should still be walking free.

After all, the probable Golden State Killer has yet to be convicted of the rapes and murders he committed. Alrighty then. But, the Trump's flying monkey cult will slurp this shit up like it was banana pudding.

[CentralMass]

80. Dershowitz could use some lip balm.

[Labiglabocce]

82. K&R

He sure seems to bend the rule of law.

[shawn703]

83. Whatever happened to Dershowitz anyway?

I thought he was one of ours once upon a time.

[NY_20th]

89. I'm beginning to wonder if Trump has

some dirt on him.

[mountain grammy]

84. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!

because that NEVER happen in America, right? Back under your rock, Alan. You've totally off your rocker.. damn old fool.

[Eyeball_Kid]

85. I suggest that Alan jump on Trumpy's

bandwagon and file a motion in Court to object to the incarceration of Paulie Walnuts. Go ahead, Alan. Make an utter fool of yourself. Talk is cheap.

[kentuck]

87. Dershowitz leaves no room for any exceptions.

Over and over, Manafort taunted the law and dared them to do something about it. He thought he was above the law. After all, he has been for most of his life.

Just as the Judge pointed out, Manafort was not a threat to others. He was a threat to the idea of justice itself. She had no other choice under these circumstances.

[brewens]

88. Witness tampering while out on bond is also an anethama to liberty, your own! n/t

[Honeycombe8]

90. Oh, I thought he was speaking of the immigrant/migrant CHILDREN!!!

I really did. Silly me...he's still pushing the Trump agenda and providing support, in return for Trump's protection of all Israel policies. IMO.