Spare me the calls for civility - President Trump deserves our rage

[babylonsister]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/15/samantha-bee-robert-de-niro-trump-language

Spare me the calls for civility – President Trump deserves our rage
Jessica Valenti
Samantha Bee and Robert De Niro have taken flak for foul language. But polite responses to Trump play right into his hands
Fri 15 Jun 2018 06.00 EDT
Last modified on Fri 15 Jun 2018 11.56 EDT


Can we stop pretending that the right cares about civility? Whether it’s the faux outrage over the television host Samantha Bee calling Ivanka Trump a “cunt” or the yammering over Robert DeNiro’s “fuck Trump” battle cry at the Tony awards, I’m tired of those on the right feigning shock. After all, they voted in the most brash, offensive and foul-mouthed president in history.

Are we really to believe that the same people who voted for a man who suggested a woman was too ugly to sexually assault now care about a naughty word for female genitalia? The same people who defended a man who said he grabbed women “by the pussy”? Are Americans really supposed to keep quiet and polite as Republicans implement policies that literally rip nursing infants from their mothers’ breasts and are building tented internment camps for children?

But sure, it’s our curses that are the problem.

Those on the left, too, are warning that our anger will drive more people to Trump. Frank Bruni wrote this week: “When you answer name-calling with name-calling and tantrums with tantrums, you’re not resisting him. You’re mirroring him. You’re not diminishing him. You’re demeaning yourselves.

“Many voters don’t hear your arguments or the facts, which are on your side. They just wince at the din,” he says.

But here’s the thing – the people who are standing by Trump right now are not people who are interested in arguments or facts. They’re supporting a man who lies with every other breath, a man who calls the press the “greatest enemy” of our country while he lauds an authoritarian dictator and shrugs off his human rights abuses. Someone who looked at a march of white supremacists where one woman was killed and said there were “very fine people on both sides”. Who called countries inhabited mostly by people of color “shitholes”.

This is a president who deserves a bit of profanity.

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Being spittlingly angry will not drive more people to Trump and will not diminish us – the high road is about morals, not a few curse words.

[samnsara]

1. im tired of being nice...

[Chickensoup]

2. Those who call for civility play right

into their hands. They love it when
one of us say we should take the high
road because they know then they
won.
Democracy, truth and rule of law
should always have teeth and fangs to defend itself.

[PaulX2]

14. When They Go Low....

I kick them in the teeth.

Sorry Mrs. Obama.

You stay nice, that's fine. I will call every single Republican a racist traitor who should be hung, not tolerated.

I tell them this to their face.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210717197

[malaise]

3. Perfect

Rec

[MFM008]

4. I no longer

"Go HIGH when they go low".
Nope.
No.

[Downtown Hound]

5. Damn straight!

[Initech]

6. The party of "fuck your feelings" and "Hillary is a ****" is outraged at other people's language?

Go cry me a river, assholes!

[kcr]

7. All the recs for this

If the Right cared so much about civility, they wouldn't support Trump in the first place. I'm sick and tired of the bad faith, moral false equivalencies, and pandering. If some can't stop being so damn mushy and complacent, then they could at least have the decency to stay out of the way, but no. They feel compelled to stroke their own privileged, pampered egos to show how above it all they are.

[ProudLib72]

8. Don't like it RW snowflakes?

Fuck you!

[scarletwoman]

13. Exactly! Fuck THEIR feelings!

We are in a war - SO, all's fair!

[H2O Man]

15. I agree.

[scarletwoman]

19. Hey man, good to see you! Thank you!

I truly think that as long as the other side is engaged in a culture war against us, we need to engage back and engage back hard.

They are wrong. They are assholes. They are bullies. They are bigots. They are liars. They should be given no quarter!

These are people who are bent on destroying the rule of law, bent on destroying empiricism, bent on destroying all vestiges of the Enlightenment.

The barbarians are at the gate. We don't need to be civil to them, we need to FIGHT them, no holds barred.

[H2O Man]

23. Always good to see you!

Being of limited intellectual capacity, I tend to view these conflicts in the same manner as I did as a young man in the boxing ring. I was never concerned with the opponent's feelings. My goal was simply to inflict enough damage to end the fight. And if I didn't like the guy, to do even more damage. I sought to convince them that they never, ever, wanted to fight me again.

These days, I feel the same. Nonviolently, of course.

[scarletwoman]

24. "I sought to convince them that they never, ever, wanted to fight me again."

Yeah! That's what I'm talkin' about!

We HAVE to defeat those people.

[debsy]

9. So glad someone finally said it. We need to organize and get out in the streets...

I read that Frank Bruni opinion and thought the same thing. Why would I be civil to someone who is literally destroying in front of our eyes our "civil" society? FUCK THEM ALL!

[SCVDem]

10. Dixie Chicks! nt

[LuckyCharms]

11. I've always been of the mind that when they go low, we go lower.

There is nothing wrong with "Nazi punching", so to speak.

[Laha]

12. Any time I hear some right wing snowflake

whining about how uncivilly they are treated, or the so-called violent tendencies of the left, there is only one image that comes to my mind.


[link:]

[Cha]

16. Proud member of the Fuck trump Club..

Link to tweet

[dhill926]

17. Yep...fuck 'em...

[vercetti2021]

18. Fuck them

They call us snowflakes but can't take the same crap they dish out. Fuck them and the orange Mongrel they rode in on.

[yonder]

34. Yes, classic bullying behavior

I think part of it is they are surprised when we do fight back. It puts them at a loss, so they reach deep into their (limited) arsenal and pull out "snowflake" because it implies fragility to whom it's directed or "politically correct" which in my view, is just another term for good manners, because it sounds like a big word.

[vercetti2021]

35. Don't forget

Libtard, lefty, leftist, communist, socialist, libturd...idk. It's like their insults are even limited to stupidity levels of poo flinging. But I've always been a fighter on my end. I will drop intellect with cursing right at them.

[heaven05]

20. +++ nt.

[neeksgeek]

21. Thank you for posting this.

My own mother, for some reason a Trump supporter, tells me that she no longer reads my emails “because they’re inflammatory.” I told her that’s deliberate, and if she's not angry, not inflamed, about what this Trump person is doing, she’s either an imbecile or complicit. Or both.

I’m sorry I'm saying these type of things to my own mother, but it has to be said. And there’s no point in sugar-coating any of it.

[Hekate]

28. Start sending her info about the imprisoned babies. Just the facts, okay?

And say you're sorry for calling her an imbecile. Life is too short.

Good luck.

[neeksgeek]

36. I hear you.

Any facts that don’t fit her narrative are cheerfully ignored. It’s been very frustrating.

[Butterflylady]

22. Agree 1,000%

I've been saying that all along. It's time to get muddy.

[Leith]

25. Damn Right

Fuck'em all sideways with nails driven in. They are fucking fools and proud of it. They're scum and they don't deserve any more courtesy.

And Ivanka really IS a feckless cunt. Tough shit if you don't like the word.

[Hekate]

26. Kick and Rec. NOT IN MY NAME, YOU EVIL BASTARDS.

[Solly Mack]

29. K&R

[tulipsandroses]

30. Agreed

I'm not ready to play nice
These folks aren't playing by any rules. Sometimes we have to give em a taste of their own medicine

[lunatica]

31. Since we are forced to fight we must fight to win

If we don’t fight to win then what the fuck are we fighting for? To lose?

Fuck that shit!

[eleny]

32. rec

[VOX]

33. Hell yes! "Being nice" doesn't work against fascism.

Democrats and progressives have been high-roading it for decades, while the right has taken the low road since Nixon.

[smirkymonkey]

37. Hear, Hear!

Being civil isn't working. They just see us as weak and then double down on their bullying. We need to go after them loudly and aggressively.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

38. And He Shall Receive It

But I refuse to call that piece of human garbage "President." He's NOT the President.

[ck4829]

39. K&R

[Gothmog]

40. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet