Did you have a better dinner than Paul Manafort ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I had a Stouffer's frozen dinner

[tazkcmo]

1. Had you not cooked that Stouffer's dinner

You still would have had a better one than Manafort if he actually was booked in time to "enjoy" one. Lol.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. How was food in the Army ?

My buddy took the Air Force test and enlisted with the belief he would be a mechanic. They made him a cook. He was so distraught he went to the Air Force chaplain. He eventually liked it. He could make a restaurant grade lasagna when he got out.

[tazkcmo]

5. Delicious

We ate very well, especially when the cooks were actual Army cooks as opposed to civilian contractors. The Army cooks had a lot of reasons to do a good job like promotions and not getting their ass kicked.

The best food I had was in Advanced Individual Training (AIT) where we learn our specific jobs. I was lucky enough to eat meals prepared by cooks also in AIT and those soldiers REALLY wanted to graduate so they were very conscientious.

My experience with a civilian run Dining Facility (we don't have mess halls anymore) was good just not as good as the soldier operated facilities.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. An army runs on its stomach.

When did you serve ?

Oh. thank you for your service.

[tazkcmo]

12. You're welcome

Truly not needed, like many I joined to feed my children though I took my oath seriously and served as well as I could.

1985 to 1991 and recalled for Desert Storm or as some of us called it, Oil War One.

An Army runs on its stomach and low crawls on it, too! Lol

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I would argue Desert War One was justified, Desert War Two wasn't.

There's something to be said about upholding the principle that strong countries can't steal land from weak countries just as upholding the principle a strong kid on the playground can't steal the weak kid's lunch.


Also, Desert War One was fought under a UN flag, Desert Two wasn't.

[tazkcmo]

19. Without the oil

We wouldn't have done shit, imo. Look at Sarajevo. No oil, no action until it was too late.

I also met many Kuwaitis at Ft Bliss who were learning to Air Defense.systems. I asked each one I met why they hadn't returned to defend their country. Maybe 20 or 30 all together but every damn one replied along the lines of that that what the US Army is for. We had very little respect for them as a fighting force.

[trof]

36. Actually , we gave Saddam a pass on the Kuwait thing.

Transcript:

"We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America." - April Glasspie was appointed ambassador to Iraq in 1988. She was the first woman to be appointed an American ambassador to an Arab country. She had a reputation as a respected Arabist, and her instructions were to broaden cultural and commercial contacts with the Iraqi regime.

Another version of the transcript (the one published in The New York Times on 23 September 1990) has Glaspie saying:
But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 1960s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi (Chedli Klibi, Secretary General of the Arab League) or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly.

When these purported transcripts were made public, Glaspie was accused of having given tacit approval for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, which took place on August 2, 1990. It was argued that Glaspie's statements that "We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts" and that "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America" were interpreted by Saddam as giving free rein to handle his disputes with Kuwait as he saw fit. It was also argued that Saddam would not have invaded Kuwait had he been given an explicit warning that such an invasion would be met with force by the United States."


We fucked him
- trof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie#Meetings_with_Saddam_Hussein

[cynatnite]

10. Our best meals were at Ft. Sam with the different mess halls we could choose from...

During basic, the MRE's were all recalled. For most of basic, they brought meals straight from the mess hall still hot. Great food.

[tazkcmo]

14. Green eggs!

Can't remember the name of the container they put hot food in but it always gave the eggs a slightly green tint.

My oldest son was born at Ft Sam. Outstanding people and care. I'm guessing you were in the medical field?

[cynatnite]

16. Combat medic...

Loved being stationed there. We hit Corpus a few weekends, San Antonio had the best spots for foodies, partying and everything else.

We should've been miserable for the amount of field work we did, but we had a blast the whole time.

[tazkcmo]

23. Lived in San Antonio for almost 20 years.

Ahhh, I remember when Texas was blue and sane.

[Adsos Letter]

17. Mermite cans.

At many a meal slopped from those things.

[tazkcmo]

20. Thank you!!!

I remembered it started with an M.

[Adsos Letter]

25. 2nd Armored Cav, 72-75

Lots of time in the field. 🙂

[tazkcmo]

32. My best friend was in the 2nd Cav!

He loved it. He experienced the oil fields in Iraq.

I was a REMFER. Supply. The only job I ever had where stealing was an art form and quietly encouraged. Hell, I received medals for it!

[janx]

3. I doubt this is the kind of jail Manafort is in, but

I do not doubt that his menu choices have changed.

[FarPoint]

37. I heard it was the DC Jail...

Roaches, aroma of urine...sticky floors... plastic sandles

[PJMcK]

38. DC jail, according to reports (n/t)

[gratuitous]

4. Tomorrow is supposed to be a beautiful day

I need to get a long ride in to prepare for my June 23 ride. I hope to do 60 miles in the lovely Oregon countryside. Paul Manafort will be looking out a small window with bars on it. I will not be thinking about him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I thought about him a little

My Stouffer's Classic Roast Turkey dinner will be like haute cuisine to him.

[Blue_true]

55. Are you doing the Seattle to Portland bike ride? nt

[gratuitous]

58. I did that many years ago

I'd like to do it again, but I'd like to do it with other people. Next Saturday is the Petal Pedal, beginning and ending at the Oregon Garden. I'm doing the 70 mile route.

[Blue_true]

59. Never heard of that ride, but sounds awesome. Have fun. Do you picnic during such a ride? nt

[gratuitous]

61. Some folks do

It's a well-supported ride in lovely countryside on the east side of the Willamette Valley. The 100 mile course goes up to Silver Falls, but fat 60 year olds do better without that climb, so it's 70 miles for me.

I'm just going down for the ride, but a lot of people make an all day event out of it:

https://www.eventsbyaxiom.com/petalpedal.html

[Blue_true]

67. So riding back toward the cascades. When I have visited Oregon, always felt that it was beautiful

country, feel the same about western Washington state. You live in a beautiful place, you are lucky.

[Takket]

6. Had Thai food for dinner. i'd say i did......

[chillfactor]

9. I made Shepherd's Pie......

and fresh dinner rolls...…..I am sure it was much better that what Manafort had

[imanamerican63]

11. He had a bowl full of Trump pie!

[cynatnite]

13. Stuffed pork chops, fresh corn on the cob and a beautiful salad...

A few days ago we made ice cream with blackberries. That's tonight's dessert.

I bought new outdoor furniture for the deck. This weekend would be a good time to break out the rib eyes for the grill. Suck it, Paulie.

[MANative]

18. Grilled salmon with brown butter tomato relish and wild rice

Paired with a lovely pinot grigio. I'd say mine was miles better!

[treestar]

21. Nice dinner

But then I did not collide with any Russians!

[Brother Buzz]

22. I won't be using a Spork, but in a small way....

I'm envious; She Who Must be Obeyed won't let me enjoy bologna.

[tazkcmo]

33. That's a nice jail!

Freaking spoiled brats! Lol

[Codeine]

24. I had falafel. Thus, I had a better dinner

than all of you AND Manafort.

[dhol82]

26. Had left over Chinese.

Have absolutely no problem if Manafort ate swill.
His problem.

[fierywoman]

27. Cheese grits and spicy shrimp.

[mercuryblues]

28. I went all out

I made stuffed pablano peppers, Mexican rice, baked beans, lettuce, tomato, & avacodo.

[zeusdogmom]

29. Most certainly

Honey smoked salmon on naan triangles with a few Mediterranean olives, and a mint Julip type beverage topped off with Prosecco. Consumed while watching MASH reruns. Most excellent.

Zeus dog had some of the salmon skin. He was VERY happy

[mainer]

30. I had a celebratory steak dinner. In honor of Paul Manafort's arrest.

So yes, I had a very cheerful dinner.

[neeksgeek]

31. Yep. Sushi, washed it down with some citrus IPA.

So yeah. I had a good dinner.

[Kaleva]

34. Pork roast and mashed potatoes

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/75861/amazing-pork-tenderloin-in-the-slow-cooker/

[FarPoint]

35. Tradition Sack Lunch/ Dinner..all the same...

He's still in Receiving and Booking......meal is a soggy, smashed " turkey" baloney sandwich with slice of cheese..meat had a shimmer tone as well....a soggy cookie tops the sandwich inadvertently...served with orange Koolaide....

Yummy.

[MuseRider]

39. It would be hard not to!

To early to eat because it is too hot to finish my chores. I figure I will sit out with the goats and drink some wine, he won't have that pleasure either. Later I will cook up some pasta. He may get pasta but it won't be homemade and his sauce will not come from home canned tomatoes either. I like this game. Earlier when I was headed for something I was afraid would be unpleasant I pictured him standing in line in his big boy pants and socks being given his clothes, sheets, shower shoes etc. Made my life seem like the life of a queen. As I said, I like this game.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. I live in a 555 square foot rent controlled studio apt in the SFV with my gf.

I'm waiting for her to get home from work but I have ac , a computer, a fifty inch 4k TV, access to a pool and a jacuzzi, and a fridge full of food. I feel like Bill Gates.

But I never hid millions I made working for dictators.

[Hortensis]

52. :)

[PJMcK]

42. I like the game, too

I've found it gives me some comfort to know that these criminals are all soaked with flop sweat. Among others, I find satisfaction that Cohen, Flynn, Manafort, Don Jr., Jared, Ivanka, Gates and especially Trump are increasingly worried that they will be exposed.

To know that Manafort will probably never leave jail gives me a sense that there is still a balance in the world. To know that Trump is lying awake at night trying to come up with yet another lie to explain away his criminality helps me to sleep well. To know that Cohen is bleeding money on his lawyers shows me that ill-gotten gains won't last.

I'm sitting outside, too, in the Catskill mountains. Our country is beautiful, abundant and still full of such magnificent potential. I love our nation and a great many of its people. I hope our Constitution will hold and the wrong-doers will be exposed and punished for their acts against this wonderful republic.

[MuseRider]

47. Exactly!

That is where I am too. My husband is very pessimistic about it all and that is certainly not unrealistic but I have to stay with hope. I do hope and I work for it as well. Such a lovely night. I can be free right here.

[PJMcK]

49. By the way, regarding your signature line

Is that a clarinet or a soprano saxophone?

Inquiring musical minds want to know!

Enjoy the fresh air.

[MuseRider]

51. Yay!

You actually got it! It is a clarinet but certainly could be a soprano sax!

I am a clarinet player, have been my whole life. Stricktly symphonic with occasional pit. Still gigging although for the last 10 years it is mostly orchestra.

You?

[PJMcK]

53. Composer, producer and pianist

Most of my work has been in music publishing, arranging/orchestrating and recording on Broadway and films/TV with some Classical. Late in my career, I've taken to playing piano for a NYC ballet school; I should have done this decades ago but, you know...

I studied at Manhattan School of Music and received BMus and MMus degrees studying with John Corigliano. Have you ever heard his clarinet concerto? It was commissioned by the NY Philharmonic and Leonard Bernstein conducted its premiere performances with Stanley Drucker as soloist. It's among my favorite of his works. Here's a YouTube performance of the MSU Orchestra with Guy Yehuda on clarinet conducted by Kevin Noe that is quite effective and musical:

I hope you'll enjoy it. Mr. Corigliano's father was the principal violinist for the NY Philharmonic for several decades and the second movement is a tribute to that relationship and features a hauntingly beautiful duet between the first violinist and the clarinet soloist. It's rather poignant that Maestro Bernstein was the Music Director for many of the years Corigliano senior was with the orhchestra.

[MuseRider]

56. We must talk!

I have not heard the clarinet concerto but I will listen when I get to a place tonight I can actually listen to it well. I fell in love with his Symphony No. 1. I was driving somewhere and when I heard it for the first time and I had to pull my car over to listen and actually weep. That had happened to me only once before listening to Prokofiev. I lost a brother to AIDS but I don't know the date of his concerto so I don't remember if that was part of my reaction. It is at turns so funny and charming and absolutely gut wrenching. Thank you for this and we should talk. I am smitten with Broadway. Just saw a touring company of The King And I the other day. I have played a few but not nearly as many as I would like. My brother directed many shows in and around Houston but he loved accompanying opera works and working with singers. I bet doing the ballet is a blast. Thank you! I will send you a PM after I listen. I am drawing a blank on the name but I once met and had a rousing week of conversations with one of the clarinet players who did Met Opera and Ballet. Ben something.....Amato?

[PJMcK]

40. You bet I did, thanks to DUer elleng!

I saw her post earlier today and decided to give it a try. I don't think that shrimp curry is a regular menu item in the DC jail's cafeteria.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1157&pid=72622

[LiberalLoner]

43. This short video makes me smile....

[Mike Nelson]

44. probably not...

...cherry yoghurt and vitamin water.

[sarcasmo]

45. I had 50th birthday cake for dinner, it has been a Glorious day.

[NY_20th]

46. Happy 50th Birthday.

[MuseRider]

48. Happy Birthday!

I remember 50 fondly. Enjoy it.

[Grammy23]

50. I'm thinking Paulie is not having his best day.

Going to jail (a local lock up) probably was not on his agenda but then, I imagine his lawyers had warned him to bring a toothbrush when he left home this morning.

It has crossed my mind that he is not in your typical cell, overrun with cockroaches and a bunk mate named Brutus. So it could be that they have a cell for VIPs that we won’t see or hear about. But just for grins and giggles, it is fun to imagine him swatting cockroaches, wondering what the sticky stuff is on the floor and trying to figure out where to hang his custom made suit.

Paulie, did you hear my cousin, Vinny, has opened a branch office in DC. Maybe you could give him a call??

[Blue_true]

54. I had chicken, corn and potatoes stewed in wine sauce. Delicious. nt

[Vinnie From Indy]

57. Smoked Beef Brisket, home made slaw and corn bread

A few nice local IPA's.

[mountain grammy]

60. We had steak tonight in honor of crooked paulie.

rarely have steak anymore.. cut way back on beef and pork for health and environmental reasons. But it was on sale and I thought, I bet crooked paulie's not having steak tonight so what the hell.

[ornotna]

62. His biggest worry on cuisine from now on

will be, what color are the beans tonight.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. I can't imagine how much imprisonment must suck.

That's probably why they take away your tie and belt.

[roamer65]

64. I give him 1 week maximum and he will flip.

[dflprincess]

65. It probably depends on if he's in the general population

or protective custody. I'm betting the latter. If were general he'd probably already in Mueller's office telling him everything.

[Liberal In Texas]

66. He's in VIP

The Hilton down the road might not be as good.

[uponit7771]

68. He's in VIP but even that can be constricting, its the movement and lack of familiarity that will

... get to him if he's not kept calm.