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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOnce again, I ask my DU bff's for background facts on our extreme imigration practices
Frankly, I need help with a FB debate.
For people trying to enter the USA to live, there are two categories people sneaking in AKA illegal immigrants, and people trying to escape injury and death in their own country asylum seekers, who try to follow the USAs procedures to get in.
How many are in each group, citing most recent stats?
How many asylum seekers have we turned back to face gangs, wife beaters, drug lords human traffickers? (The thought our country would refuse asylum and knowingly send back human beings to face death and torture and slavery gives me a warm MAGA feeling all over.) I know Sessions has recently determined that sending asylum seekers back to their miserable fate in their country of origin is the new American way, knowing many will end up beaten or dead.
Is the USA currently doing the separate children from family thing only to the illegal enterers, or are they now treating everybody trying to come in to separate parent and child prisons? Is the asylum-seeking lane temporarily closed?
What are the stats for the Obama admin deportations? I recall something like 300,000 a year or something? (Which American Nazis should at least give him props for?)
Theres some recent pics of kids in cages that Dems use to illustrate the cruelty that were actually taken in Obamas terms and are also framed to seem like the kids inside a cage, when hes actually outside in a bigger frame. Do we have kids in kennels? Was the only proof what Sen. Merkel managed to find or is there more and how many?
What was the root change that gave the admin the justification for separating children from parents? And how many orphans have we created in recent months?
Fox says were getting a flood of foreign families seeking entrance because they heard if you come to the USA as a family unit, youre assured a very high chance of just breezing in. And this admin is merely preventing these moochers from becoming parasites on us law abider good citizens? What facts do we have to back this belief?
Weve been conditioned to the new normal or yes it can get worse, and maybe we should be getting worried as the worseness is growing exponentially.
This thing with separating children and being oblivious to the fact that maybe these families would like to know theyre going to see their children again is not just another of many new broken norms. This is the crap HITLER DID and its what all fucking Dictators do and Those of us that are not narcissistic sociopaths should all be doing what ever we can to be compassionate and empathetic to people seeking refuge or a better life. Plus, I was taught we a nation of immigrants and our diversity is a big part of what makes up our greatness? WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GOOD GUYS, NOT THE TORTURERS!
Don't scold me because I'm too lazy and stupid to google all this. I trust the veracity of the DU community a lot more than the first site I google that confirms my bias. I don't want my proof to be from the Drudge-fox-rush-alex-jones propaganda arena. (A mistake I've made in the past)
-90% Jimmy
lunasun
(21,646 posts)what is really happening at the border
Snopes can help you with many ?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toddler-cage-photo/