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Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:09 PM Jun 2018

Trump's not a liar. He's a madman. / lie rate is increasing

Early in this weekend’s monsoon of malarkey, New York Times White House reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted that Trump told “demonstrable falsehoods” — and she was roundly ridiculed on Twitter for failing to say Trump was lying. She defended herself by saying Trump’s pronouncements “can be hard to label” because “he often thinks whatever he says is what’s real.”

Haberman is right, but there’s another reason not to label Trump’s untruths “lies”: Calling him a liar lets him off easy. A liar, by definition, knows he’s not telling the truth. Trump’s behavior is worse: With each day it becomes more obvious he can’t distinguish between fact and fantasy. It’s an illness, and it’s spreading.

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Writing last week for NBCNews.com, a professor of cognitive neuroscience at University College London, along with a researcher, offered an explanation for Trump’s mendacity.

Noting that the daily average number of Trump falsehoods has been rising since he took office (as measured by The Post’s Fact Checker), the professor, Tali Sharot, pointed to the biological process of “emotional adaptation.” People tend to feel uncomfortable when they tell lies, but research has found that the discomfort is reduced each time a person lies — thereby increasing the frequency of lies.


Trump’s fictions are so pain-free that they may not feel like lies to him — honestly. And, ominously, they may seem less glaring to others over time. Sharot noted that people “may desensitize to the president’s falsehoods in the same way that they do to overused perfume, making them less likely to act to correct this pattern of behavior.”

You can see this in the repeated failure of congressional Republicans to call out Trump’s untruths, when they obviously know better. And you can see it in administration officials’ determination to support whatever Trump says, no matter how ludicrous. (The White House held a briefing Tuesday to support Trump’s attempt to blame Democrats for immigrant family separation.) Trump may not be able to separate fact from fiction, but those who knowingly back up his falsehoods are liars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-doesnt-lie-he-does-something-worse/2018/05/29/fdd89d30-6372-11e8-99d2-0d678ec08c2f_story.html?utm_term=.d9e88d11aa65

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Trump's not a liar. He's a madman. / lie rate is increasing (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2018 OP
"Pathological" liar points to a mental condition. yallerdawg Jun 2018 #1
He is also a sociopath. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #2
he is a con artist elmac Jun 2018 #3
Fuck that. He knows he's lying. That's why he does all he can to undermine press & the fact checkers LuvLoogie Jun 2018 #4
I agree completely LuvLoogie. montana_hazeleyes Jun 2018 #10
His lie rate is increasing because he's getting away with his lies. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2018 #5
trump is a fucking LIAR and a Madman.. a GasLighting Cha Jun 2018 #6
They separated themselves from reality long ago, cutroot Jun 2018 #7
Oh, FFS!!! BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #8
At some point, severe personality disorders cross the line into mental illness. mn9driver Jun 2018 #9

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. "Pathological" liar points to a mental condition.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:21 PM
Jun 2018

Also, related to 'narcissistic personality disorder' of which the Dotard is our new poster child.

The hallmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) are grandiosity, a lack of empathy for other people, and a need for admiration. People with this condition are frequently described as arrogant, self-centered, manipulative, and demanding. They may also concentrate on grandiose fantasies (e.g. their own success, beauty, brilliance) and may be convinced that they deserve special treatment. These characteristics typically begin in early adulthood and must be consistently evident in multiple contexts, such as at work and in relationships.

People with narcissistic personality disorder believe they are superior or special, and often try to associate with other people they believe are unique or gifted in some way. This association enhances their self-esteem, which is typically quite fragile underneath the surface. Individuals with NPD seek excessive admiration and attention in order to know that others think highly of them. Individuals with narcissistic personality disorder have difficulty tolerating criticism or defeat, and may be left feeling humiliated or empty when they experience an "injury" in the form of criticism or rejection.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
2. He is also a sociopath.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jun 2018

He is a walking, talking mental disaster. Neither illness can be cured with medicine and prolonged therapy either.
https://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
3. he is a con artist
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jun 2018

that is what he does, all his life. If he didn't have daddy's money he would have spent most of his life in prison.

LuvLoogie

(6,993 posts)
4. Fuck that. He knows he's lying. That's why he does all he can to undermine press & the fact checkers
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jun 2018

He's lying more because his lies are having less of an effect and he needs to keep it up to avoid having the walls cave in.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
10. I agree completely LuvLoogie.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

He knows he's lying and his cult members want to believe him. He's a psychopath and that's what they do.

cutroot

(875 posts)
7. They separated themselves from reality long ago,
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:43 PM
Jun 2018

They moved into an alternate world and bolstered themselves with their own alternate facts. The republicans benefit from this so they just try to keep the herd happy and slowly moving towards the slaughterhouse. trump is a useful tool and he can easily be dispatched once he has completed their dirty work for them. He twists the pretzel of logic into a shape that his cult can recognize and they simply believe him. No questions asked.
His entire cult of criminality would disappear if enough people stood up and made their voices heard at the voting booth.

mn9driver

(4,423 posts)
9. At some point, severe personality disorders cross the line into mental illness.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jun 2018

That is what we are witnessing now.

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