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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRichard Painter (MN-SEN) campaign ad: "Dumpster Fire"
Cute, but I have a feeling that Painter in person isn't as resonant as Painter on Twitter.
Bettie
(16,120 posts)not personable at all.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Bettie
(16,120 posts)in my opinion, his voice lacks warmth, but that could be due to his illness. I don't live in MN, so I know virtually nothing about him.
My first impression was that the ad was not very effective.
Purple Mountain Maje
(41 posts)If I was a DFL, I'd stay far away from Painter as possible. By our definition, he isn't a real Dem anyways.
Bettie
(16,120 posts)Ethics chief for W? It would take an awful lot for me to vote for that. An awful lot.
Because there were no ethics in W's admin. Well, compared to our current disaster there might have been a smidge, but not enough to show.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,394 posts)Oneironaut
(5,522 posts)I know its not realistic to expect personality not to matter in politics, but were approaching a point where being a showman is more important than being intelligent or stable. I would rather have someone like this than a carnival barker with ridiculous theatrics and gimmicks.
Bettie
(16,120 posts)The casual voter, those who don't watch debates or read about positions will tend to react based on an impression in an ad like this.
So, I gave an opinion based on that first impression. I did not think the ad would be particularly effective as a first impression of the candidate.
Others may differ in their opinions.
brooklynite
(94,699 posts)Voters engage with candidates on multiple levels, and unfortunately charisma, one-to-one engagement, age, hair color and voice are all factors they take into account.
As for "someone like this", I'd rather have Senator Tina Smith.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Democrats do well with young, smart and charismatic candidates - JFK, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama come to mind.
In 1980, Ronald Reagan was the smooth and optimistic former actor, one of the most charismatic Republicans of the 20th century. Jimmy Carter, while smart and extremely competent, was portrayed as stiff and indecisive. Reagan wins big.
1984, Reagan swamps Walter Mondale, a smart and competent, but low charisma candidate.
1988 featured two low charisma candidates, but Mike Dukakis took blandness to epic levels. Bush wins on Reagans coattails.
1992 featured the young and charismatic Bill Clinton against low charisma George HW Bush. Clinton wins handily.
1996 was Clinton again versus stern and serious Bob Dole. Clinton wins handily.
2000 featured down home regular guy George W. Bush and out of touch and overly serious elitist Al Gore. Bush ekes out a win.
2004 featured Bush again against smart and competent but bland John Kerry. Bush wins.
2008 was young and charismatic Barack Obama against stern and serious John McCain. Obama wins.
2012 was Obama again versus the elitist and out of touch Mitt Romney. Obama wins.
2016 was Hillary Clinton very smart and competent, but not the most exciting person. Donald Trump was a train wreck, but he had that smarmy con-man charisma that sucked up all the media attention. Trump ekes out a win.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)People want an ice cream sundae with all the trimmings...not a fat free vanilla soy ice cream dip in a cup
pizzazz is a FACT... unfortunately it's not always smart (see Trump)
tall smart exciting is a winner..
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...After Hewitt put down Painter for coming from a "flyover state."
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)I shall not criticize him.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,394 posts)Dude knew he couldn't win as an anti-Trump Republican so he switched parties to take on the endorsed incumbent. Wonderful. Why anyone gives him the time of day is beyond me -- and this "you don't get paid until we do" ad says it all.
State the Obvious
(842 posts)He is an ethics attorney and....just what we need.
Since we lost Al Franken's voice, we need someone like Painter who is a person not afraid to speak up! We can't straddle the fence on this one.
Painter sounds angry because he IS angry. Republicans are ruining our country, and we need to see more people in Congress who are willing to demand ETHICAL behavior from our president.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Read his history of Twitter tweets. He's angry, sure, he's still very much a Bush republican. He's just being an opportunist.
Rather have a Dem like Tina Smith.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,394 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)We had a real democrat in Franken, but the other democrats lynched him. Now we're about to get this Bush acolyte, and people are actually going along with it.
brooklynite
(94,699 posts)We have an incumbent Democratic Senator running.
JI7
(89,262 posts)Cha
(297,514 posts)choice for Senator from Minnesota.. Tina Smith.
JI7
(89,262 posts)and doing what he had been doing since Trump got into office.