Church charges brought against Sessions

[radical noodle]

More than 600 United Methodist clergy and laity say they are bringing church law charges against U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a fellow United Methodist, over a zero tolerance U.S. immigration policy — a policy that includes separating children from parents apprehended for crossing into the U.S. illegally.

Specifically, the group accuses him of child abuse in reference to separating young children from their parents and holding them in mass incarceration facilities; immorality; racial discrimination and “dissemination of doctrines contrary to the established standards of doctrines” of The United Methodist Church.

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[Thekaspervote]

1. THIS is how true christians behave...EVILGELICALS are NOT christian

[Gothmog]

2. This will be fun to watch

[Hortensis]

3. Good for them. What some of our denominations

have come to is worrisome, but I've read that Methodists have always been a more socially advanced and activist denomination than many. Obviously not all members. But Hillary Clinton is a lifelong Methodist.

The Book of Discipline allows for a church trial and even expulsion of a lay member, but the first step in a long process would be for the member's pastor and district superintendent to solve the complaint through "pastoral steps," Lawrence said.

Wright said the group's goal in filing charges was to prompt such discussions.

"I hope his pastor can have a good conversation with him and come to a good resolution that helps him reclaim his values that many of us feel he's violated as a Methodist," Wright said.

[radical noodle]

8. As a general rule the Methodist church

has been much more liberal than some other denominations. I first learned about social justice through my United Methodist Church.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

10. Tuesday morning at the Sessions house...

"Hon....wake up. The church is cutting you off."

[radical noodle]

11. I'd love to be a fly on the wall

at the Sessions house. I have a feeling his wife will not take kindly to his being charged by the UMC.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

12. Didn't Bob Seger

sing about being part of the "UMC"?

[bdamomma]

29. excommunicate him

sounds good to me.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

4. Thank you Jesus! Sessions is toast, maybe this will wipe rhat evil smirk off his face...damn

hypocrite, fake Christian --thanks, best news I've heard all day! By the way, I've not seen hide nor hair of Pence, did he slither back under a rock...hope they [ the real Christian's] go after him too.

P.s. Earlier today...Melanie "the so called practicing catholic" repeated her husband's talking points, hate to see kids suffer but dems congress, both sides she said need to do something...LIE! Your racist husband can stop this now, with one phone call.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

5. I wasn't aware they could do that

but I'm thrilled they did.

[pazzyanne]

6. Yes! Good to see real Christians staying true to the teachings of Christ.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

7. Indeed.

[radical noodle]

9. It is extremely rare

and I can't think of anything better to show him for the hypocrite he is.

[Sherman A1]

17. Every group and that includes religious groups

has a series of bylaws or rules of some sort in order to function. I am very happy to see the United Methodists are taking this seriously and working within their system to address this reprehensible behavior in a means available to them.

[Cha]

13. Good News! I didn't know that was a thing..

Link to tweet

Mahalo nui loa to the United Methodist Clergy!

You too, rad

[colorado_ufo]

14. Proud to belong to this great and inclusive church.

Also, was raised in the United Church of Christ. They are even more liberal! Expect them (and the Presbyterians) to follow suit.

[Ilsa]

21. Me too. I get upset that

the UMC is still bogged down in LGBTQ clergy and marriage issues, but that is also a reflection of our society.

The supporters of this policy are doing so as trump supporters.

[radical noodle]

25. The church has struggled with it for years

As the older members die out (members go to conference and vote on rules) the church will change. There are many already pushing for that change. A lot of the very old just simply do not understand what it really is all about. I remember my mother and grandmother not having a clue what it even was (their first thought was Sodom and Gomorrha and orgies).

[lunatica]

15. Maybe it'll put the fucking fear of god in him

and give him a terrifying vision of his future in hell. A come to Jesus moment on steroids. I hope he’s a true believer so he can experience the kind of terror he loves to dish out on babies.

For him I wish there was such a god.

[malaise]

18. Fear of what?

Religion is merely convenient prop to pro-slavery confederate racists like elfman.

[lunatica]

24. Fear of pissing god off

I imagine if you’re a believer in an angry, jealous, vengeful, punishing god you wouldn’t want to piss that god off. If your church royalty get pissy at you is god’s wrath far behind?

If the Pope admonishes a Catholic person for ungodly behavior what would that person feel when god’s personal representative on Earth scolded him? I’ll wager visions of eternal damnation would come to mind.

Ultimately it’s the idea of god’s punishment that keeps religious people in check.

[DURHAM D]

16. I am shocked. nt

[OregonBlue]

22. I'm shocked too but mostly that he's a Methodist. I would have taken him for a Southern

Baptist.

[radical noodle]

26. That's what I had assumed

Surprised me too.

[Runningdawg]

32. He will be now

[Dorian Gray]

19. Kick him out of the church.

[Achilleaze]

20. KGOP republicans are against the teaching of Christ

It's sad how low they have sunk...

[pwb]

23. Republicans follow fake religion. No Jesus just a vengeful God.

Fake religion, fake family values, fake family organizations, fake patriotism, fake human beings.

[radical noodle]

27. Then Session obviously

belongs to the wrong church.

[old guy]

28. Big deal.

What will they do, make him sit in the last pew. As long as he keeps giving money he'll be just fine.

[eppur_se_muova]

30. If only he called himself a Catholic ...

... they could send in the exorcists.

[triron]

31. How about some criminal charges?!

[Desert grandma]

33. I too belong to a UMC church.

There are some very conservative churches, but most are open, diverse, and welcoming like the one I belong to. In addition, most are fully supportive of social justice. He must belong to one of those very few more conservative congregations. Even one of those churches would find this policy disturbing. If there is a large movement to confront him spiritually, he will probably just become a Southern Baptist or a Pentecostal church member in one of those "evangelical" churches, among other 45 supporters.. People like this like to use their religiosity when it benefits them in achieving certain outcomes, however, it is very apparent that this weasel is a long, long, way from practicing true Christian principals.

[DeminPennswoods]

35. On MSNBC, a UMC pastor said there were

churches in both Ala and VA that had signed on to this document.

[Desert grandma]

36. So happy to hear this.

It gives me hope.

[ooky]

34. Go take your "law enforcement" to a different church,

asshole.