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Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:16 AM

How will we know if a child dies in custody?

WILL we know?

This is what is horrifying to think about.

If anything happens to a child they will bury it deep, and with the lack of accurate record keeping that has been suggested, who will figure it out.

It makes me sick to think about it.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:19 AM

1. That's what I've been wondering too. It's all a damn secret as to what is going on and seemingly no

accountability, just how a fascist country operates. Who's next.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:20 AM

2. We'll never know. I dreamed of this all night and into the morning. I've no doubt it has

already happened.

I, too, am feeling sick and mentally deranged today, but this fucking atrocity

WILL

NOT

STAND

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:22 AM

3. Not if, but when.

The conditions and the numbers make it inevitable.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:25 AM

6. Exactly. It's just a matter of time and statistics.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:22 AM

4. Odds are - they already have

It doesn't take a baby long to die of dehydration. And 12 year olds should not be in charge of their care.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:23 AM

5. Great point. There is no plan except terror by Dolt45.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:27 AM

7. Child deaths will be a massive cover-up

that will be discovered decades from now, if ever.

This has really been on my mind because of the tents in Texas. It doesn't take much for a kid to get dehydrated. Kids get hospitalized for this, for God's sake.

Even if there's plenty of water available (will it be rationed like food?), who's going to make sure that the kids drink it?

Will the staff even be trained on the warning signs?

ETA:. totally agree with Runningdawg above.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:28 AM

8. The crimes will be uncountable

Death by negligence
Murder
Sexual abuse
Forced labor
Trafficking
Adoptions for profit

You name it, it's probably happening.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:29 AM

9. I am sure many have died and been raped or sold already

Doubtful we will ever know for sure who and when.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:33 AM

10. They are hiring rapidly to care for kids

A perfect setup for child predetors. I'm furious!

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:38 AM

11. We won't, and they will cover it up.

It has probably already happened.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:58 AM

12. We won't. Children have died in "juvenile rehabilitation camps" for over a century and no one

cared. If there's no "respectable" relatives to make a stink, no one cares.

The tired old history fan in me is pretty sure that since April, there have already been deaths among the separated children, especially among the younger ones - the infants and toddlers - who had already gone through a long and stressful journey and were in bad shape, physically or mentally, to begin with.
Poor nutrition, sanitation, and the exposure to foreign diseases, especially since they've been travelling for months across different environments - and in the mid-spring when everything is "blooming" (specifically bacteria and fungi) can cause catastrophic physical failure.
Babies and toddlers without their parents or a trusted caretaker in such a situation can easily just shut down. And that is usually fatal.

Haele

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:02 PM

13. Here is how it is done.

Citizen Monitors who watch for tell tale signs. It is called watching for the County Medical Examiner or Mortuary vehicles entering or leaving these Prison Farms.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:18 PM

14. If a child somehow escapes custody, ....

.... would the guards shoot the child?

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:28 PM

15. They will cover it up

They already are.

They are going to put children as young a 1 into tents in the desert surrounded by barbed wire fences, temps will bu in the triple digits, children are going to get sick and die.

Trump called them vermin, he doesn't care if they all die.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:31 PM

16. Easy: We won't. Unless someone working there somehow has a conscience and leaks it

But the two don't go together: How could someone with a conscience work there?

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:38 PM

17. This was my very first concern

Separating families is emotionally traumatic and if they can be quickly reunited with their parents this issue would not be so alarming. (For instance if the kids were staying a few miles away and case workers were in constant touch with both the parents and the kids on a daily basis)

But this is not the case.

There is no accountability.

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