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Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:20 AM

The Good Fight!

“Sociopaths generally have a limited range of real emotions.”
H2O Man; 6/22/2018


I assume that everyone reading this would agree that Trump in no way feels bad about the suffering of the families that he and his administration are causing. However, I accept that everyone who reads DU is not a Democrat, or opposed to Trump.) Part of this is because everything he says is a lie, and no thinking person believes a word that comes out of his mouth. It is only the Pavlovian alt-right that agrees that it is “good” to incarcerate children; the more they express this, the more the public identifies their drooling as evidence of moral rabies.

What Trump finds upsetting is that rather than being viewed as “tough,” he is seen as a very little, weak, and cruel individual. That view is shared both domestically and internationally. And this is on top of his already recognized as a pathetic excuse for a human being.

It's not that Trump has the ability to feel anything for these children. Sociopaths are restricted to viewing others as either extensions of himself, or as inanimate “things” to be used to suit his purposes. It's said that they know the lyrics, but not the tune; thus, Trump says the words that he thinks (or has been told) sound right. But they fall flat. No one believes him, not even his supporters.

Let's consider the people who surround Trump. Kristjen Nielsen will follow “authority,” no matter what line she crosses. Her complaining in private does not relieve her of her moral-ethical obligations. John Kelly is a bitter, flint-hard person, who worships violence. Jeff Sessions is a hate-filled gnome who delights in torturing non-white people. And that brings us to Stephen Miller.

Let's remember that Miller sat with Trump to write the first letter to justify firing James Comey. This document focused upon Mr. Comey's continuation of the Russian probe. The White House attorney would recommend having the Justice Department produce two letters that used Mr. Comey's mistreatment of Hillary Clinton during the campaign, since identifying the true reason would clearly be obstruction. Mr. Mueller has a copy of Miller's letter, though, which proves beyond doubt the truth of why Trump needed to fire Comey.

So, Miller is definitely not intelligent. In fact, he is beyond the anti-social personality type so common in the administration. Like Trump, he is a sociopath. His emotional range is limited to anger, self-righteousness, and a giddy enjoyment of cruelty. Trump and Miller are able to work together, because each sees the other as an extension of himself. In fact, Miller often fantasizes that he is the president of the United States, his wettest of dreams.

There is literally zero chance that any Good can come from Trump or his administration. A system can only produce what its nature is. Dogs never give birth to kittens, nor do chickens lay vulture eggs. The Trump administration is saturated with evil, and is thus entirely incapable of doing anything but evil.

Yet, despite all the horror they unleash, we are witnessing the power of good people responding to the cruelty of incarcerating little children. The majority of citizens are strongly opposed to incarcerating innocent people, especially children. We see that even some republicans, aware of the consequences of the public response, publicly disagreeing with Trump. But this is primarily out of self-interest.

The most important factor – one that you and I can participate in – is the legal challenges to the Trump policy. Keep in mind that Trump has a very poor record when it comes to court cases. As citizens, we are not limited to the legislative branch in the fight against Trump: the judicial branch provides another avenue. And that is the only realistic path to reuniting these families, and outside of an incarcerated status.

Fight the Good Fight!
H2O Man

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H2O Man Jun 2018 OP
BSdetect Jun 2018 #1
H2O Man Jun 2018 #2
GeorgeGist Jun 2018 #3
H2O Man Jun 2018 #4
coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #5
H2O Man Jun 2018 #6
coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #7
H2O Man Jun 2018 #8
coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #9
H2O Man Jun 2018 #10
coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #11
H2O Man Jun 2018 #17
coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #16
H2O Man Jun 2018 #18
Hekate Jun 2018 #12
H2O Man Jun 2018 #13
lunatica Jun 2018 #14
H2O Man Jun 2018 #15

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

1. We are also fighting sinister cyberwar from russian and the remnants of CA etc

These aholes will continue their campaigns of stealth and subterfuge.

They have found compliant targets in the deplorables. Apply key hate triggers and watch the results.

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

2. Absolutely!

They are busy at work. And I absolutely appreciate you reminding us that we need to be fully aware of this. Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:04 PM

3. Like Melania, most Republicans don't really care.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:15 PM

4. Right.

Many are like that dickhead Brian from Fox & Fiends, who said, "They aren't our children."

In fact, they are our conscience, in the most literal sense. They have woken a sleeping people, who now have joined with those already opposed to Trump et al.

The fact that Trump is going to use military lawyers should be a wake-up call to this country. It is impossible to ignore the implications of that.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:18 PM

5. I was surprised and pleased to see this in the news today

[link:http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/393598-tom-arnold-cohen-and-i-are-teaming-up-to-take-trump-down|

Comedian Tom Arnold said Friday that he and President Trump’s former longtime personal lawyer are teaming up to “take down” the president.

Arnold tweeted a photo with Michael Cohen on Thursday with the caption "I Love New York," which Cohen retweeted without comment.


In the twitter post that acompanies the article we see a photo of Michael Cohen looking defeated and exhausted next to Tom Arnold.

People can flame me but I choose to see it as a positive sign that Cohen has FINALLY seen the light and is cooperating with Mueller.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:21 PM

6. Right.

I am aware that a small number of people who have been close to Cohen have convinced him that he needs to look out for himself and his family, which necessarily includes "turning on Trump" -- a curious way of saying "tell the truth."

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:46 PM

7. Yeah. I think I said in a prior post

that this man was given to believe fredo loved him and he was part of the family.

Then as soon as was expedient fredo dumped him and left him to twist in the wind.

He's been a prize asshole but he's coming around and it hasn't been fun for him. He is paying for his assholery now. And we need his help.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:51 PM

8. He is still a "prize asshole."

It's interesting to note that he is incapable of making a decision for himself.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:57 PM

9. Definitely.

Mentally deficient in some way I suppose.

But if he helps us I will take it.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 02:45 PM

10. Yes, right.

He will devastate Trump's presidency.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:11 PM

11. Yippeeeeeeee

So looking forward to that day.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:00 PM

17. The local chapter

of the Youth International Party (YIPPIE!) is actually holding a victory party at my house this evening. While I'm here alone with my dogs, the celebration is a blast.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 06:48 PM

16. Maybe not as soon as we thought

Avenatti is saying don't assume yet that Cohen is cooperating or that Tom Arnold has anything that will hurt Donald Trump.

He thinks the photo and twitter post were a warning to Trump from Cohen.

He hasn't flipped quite yet but it is very likely that he will.

[link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=554&v=mq7bLj8ITrQ|

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 07:08 PM

18. Right.

I don't know Mr. Avenatti, but I have great respect for him. (I don't know Tom Arnold, have no opinion of him, and am not using him as a source in any way.) But there are other important people speaking with Cohen.

Two important factors per timing: (a) Cohen has to solidify a defense team, and (b) he hasn't been charged yet. He'll need to have that team in place, of course. And then, even if he has yet to be charged, that team will try to deal with Team Mueller and the SDNY. And it is possible, even likely, that the NYSAG's office will be in close contact with the feds.

Mr. Avenatti is correct that this is a warning -- perhaps a last warning -- to Trump. Yet, at this point, the Trump legal team has told Trump that he has two options, both horrible for himself: help Cohen (perhaps even pardon him), and deal with the overwhelming fallout, or avoid Cohen, and deal with the overwhelming fallout.

Let us pray that the president has the wisdom to make the right choice. Both are, of course, fatal to his presidency.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:14 PM

12. KnR, H2O Man

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Response to Hekate (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:14 PM

13. Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:20 PM

14. If we're a country of laws then the Judiciary has plenty to work with

I give a monthly donation to the ACLU, precisely for things like this. We can all do something because we still have the power to do it.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 05:35 PM

15. That's great!

I donate to the ACLU when I am able to, which hasn't been often recently. I also like the Center for Constitutional Rights.

And you are exactly right: we still have the power.

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