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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThose babies (under 2) will never be re-united with their families IMHO
They have no way of tracking (ugh that's a horrible term - like an Amazon package) those little babies. They will get adopted out to white families. Their birth parents are seen as something less than human so of course they will be better off with white families.
It is disgusting, but that is what my fear is. Those babies have no voice, no way of saying "hey that's not my mom or dad"
Think of how many children will grow up believing their parents abandoned them? Didn't love them?
This has happened before in our country
The Orphan Trains of the late 1800's and 1900's - literally grabbed kids (whether they had parents or not) off the streets of large cities like New York and shipped them off to homes in the midwest.
In Arizona - this scene met horrific consequences all the way to the Supreme Court
In 1904, New York nuns brought forty Irish orphans to a remote Arizona mining camp, to be placed with Catholic families. The Catholic families were Mexican, as was the majority of the population. Soon the town's Anglos, furious at this "interracial" transgression, formed a vigilante squad that kidnapped the children and nearly lynched the nuns and the local priest. The Catholic Church sued to get its wards back, but all the courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, ruled in favor of the vigilantes.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)very goal of this administration or his sadistic federal employees --
"Shockingly difficult" to locate separated children https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210774941
@ksieff
It is shockingly difficult for immigration attorneys to locate children separated from their parents at the border. Today I spoke to lawyers who represent more than 400 parents. They've located two children.
Some of the bureaucratic failures are remarkable: Border Patrol agents who forgot to note that a child crossed the border with a parent. Mothers who were never given the toll-free phone number where they can ask about their kids.
US officials often don't answer that toll-free number. When attorneys get through, officials respond that their client's child is "in the United States."
In other cases, children are transferred from one shelter to another, and the new facilities don't make note that the child was separated from a parent. Meaning they could be mistakenly considered an unaccompanied minor.
Much of the government's information about the child's parent -- necessary for reunification -- comes directly from the child. What kind of information can a toddler provide? And what if that toddler speaks an obscure indigenous language?
So what do attorneys tell their clients? One lawyer at @TRLA says this: We have to say we dont know where your child is. The government is responsible for keeping your child safe. No parent would be satisfied with that.
Here's the story we just published. It's clear to me that there is no plan to reunify these families.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/the-chaotic-effort-to-reunite-immigrant-parents-with-their-separated-kids/2018/06/21/325cceb2-7563-11e8-bda1-18e53a448a14_story.html
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Back then... not so easy
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)difficulty getting these tests done. Who will pay to get all the babies and infants and toddlers tested?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)He started this, he deserves to pay
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Some are already deported...you think they honestly have a real chance of ever being reunited?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Parents that aren't subject to being removed and I hope that some of these will take on the task and organize groups to return the children.
I know there is a chance some people lose their kids, but I have hope we can get them all returned
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I do think other governments should get involved and force Trump to give back their citizens
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Even more dysfunctional than ours. How will these people, without money or resources, who left their home countries because of fear of persecution, manage to get DNA tests?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I thought we could make our government correct this, but you are right.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)This makes sense as the Central American countries, Mexico and the US are members.
It is very sad to write, but after this atrocity, the US might not be trusted enough in South and Central American for us to manage that process. Consider that some parents have already been deported - even though many fled because their lives were atr risk there. The first two steps on this logically is to create two detailed data bases. One with all the information we have on the children - including who their parents are from those old enough to provide that information. The other, all the information from the parents including as much information and documentation of their missing kids.
This is a mess of the United States' making. It is mindboggling that only now - weeks later - that they are "creating a task force" to figure out how to reunite the kids. To put this in context, imagine a new dry cleaner which would take your clothes, giving you no receipt and not tagging the clothes as they put them in their pile of clothes. It would never happen because people have the ability to refuse - unlike the families at the border. It shows intent to cause pain that a government process was created like this. One thing government has always done is to create paperwork. Here, they did less, than a popup event would do for a one time coat check!
If reuniting the kids was done in good faith - you would expect that of the 2000 plus kids, a fair portion would be able to provide identify information that would match the information provided by the parents. However, there likely will be many parents that will be in hiding somewhere. The DNA process might be needed to correctly match the kids with their parents.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I think they will keep the little ones.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)ellie
(6,928 posts)unacceptable. Absolutely. What do we need to do to fix this?
ooky
(8,906 posts)He separated those families without giving their reunification the first thought. That deserves immediate impeachment and conviction and removal from office. We don't even need to finish the Mueller probe after this.
Lars39
(26,106 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)probably be possible to reunite most of them. Unfortunately, our government is so incompetent at the moment it will take private agencies to accomplish it. It's hard to imagine anyone could create such a self-inflicted nightmare, but Don always does stuff better than anyone else.