Sigh. CNN just had Trump's approval now up to 45%.

[OliverQ]

Half this country sucks! The poll was from the 11th to the 17th so probably didn't quite factor in all the major backlash from the babyjails and concentration camps.

But still, the most depressing part of this catastrophe to me is just how many Americans support this Nazi.

[Vinca]

1. They always cite the large number of Republicans who support him, but never mention

the declining numbers of Republican party members. There are a whole lot of new Independents our there and a few new Democrats.

[padfun]

2. A poll came out a day or two ago that showed..

the opposite. It showed that he dropped 5%. I thought I saw it here, but maybe it was at a different site.

[bearsfootball516]

3. Huh, wonder where that was.

[BannonsLiver]

5. There were 2 polls last week

The cnn poll that had him at 45 and another that had him at 39. The poll the OP is posting about is 5 days old which the way things are today in our news cycles makes it more or less meaningless.

[spooky3]

9. I think the first was Gallup, not CNN--see my other post in this thread and the link.

[CrispyQ]

13. He should be at 12% & sinking.

WTF America?

[BannonsLiver]

14. Well, he's not.

But I doubt he’s at 45 either. This poll was started 12 days ago on June 11th. It’s meaningless.

[thbobby]

4. Visceral understanding of how Hitler gained power

I have always studied it from an intellectual angle. In America today, the visceral understanding of it horrifies all decent people.

[onecaliberal]

32. That!

[spooky3]

6. Guys--look at 538 rather than individual polls. They do a good job of

including multiple polls and making adjustments based on past accuracy, etc.

According to 538, a June 14-17th CNN poll showed Trump's approval at 39%. Using the dates and % you cite, it appears to be the Gallup poll that was talked about in the media recently. Interestingly, despite their fame, Gallup is not among the most accurate and unbiased pollsters.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

With all that said, even 39% is way too high.

[shockey80]

7. I do not believe the polls.

[kacekwl]

30. I'm with you. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. The question I have is, what percentage of poll respondents identify as Republicans?

The polls consistently show something like +90% of Republicans approve of him. But a Gallup poll from last October found only 24% identified as GOP, so 90% of 24% isn't really very many.

[bearsfootball516]

11. That's a big reason why his approval rating among republican voters is so high.

As fewer and fewer people identify as Republican, the only people remaining are the diehard Trump supporters. So when they get polled, it gives off the sense that he’s overwhelming popular in his party, but it doesn’t show that the party itself is shrinking.

[Trek4Truth]

17. Good Point. nt

[redstateblues]

21. The talking heads never mention that when

They rave about his high numbers with Republicans. It’s very misleading but they love to rave on about “the highest ratings for a R in his own party since 9-11”. What a load

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. WHERE

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[karynnj]

12. This likely reflects mostly the high point of his approval due to the NK summit

The summit happened on June 12. So, most of that time was either the day before when its potential was hyped even on MSNBC, the day of and 4 days afterward.

The outrage over the kids started before June 17th, but this last week has been when it moved religious leaders, including conservative ones and many Republicans to demand the policy change.

I suspect that the hopes of NK being solved (as Trump claims) will have diminshed and the anger at what this policy is doing will increase. I am pretty certain that any polls taken this last week will be down again.

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. My thought also. We can hope

Meanwhile North Korea is a ticking time bomb for Trump if no real progress is achieved before the mid terms: that "summit" glow will start to sour

[lame54]

25. If they will buy into that obvious horseshit...

they may believe their rhetoric on this
that # may go higher

[MuseRider]

15. I heard last night

someone on one of the shows, I believe CNN, talk about this. He said that right now all the screaming about witch hunts from him and now some of the other R's is having a little effect, like the lower approval for Mueller as well. He said it made sense because Mueller is quiet right now, no new indictments that make it sound like they are still looking for something rather than looking at the details of something they already know but we don't. It was assumed by him and the rest of the panel that once Mueller comes out with something new besides Manafort and Cohen those numbers will all change. I don't know, I hope that is true and it sounds right to me but then......hopeful thinking is always in my way.

[Trek4Truth]

16. Honestly the way I feel today....I'm ready for the civil war.

[padfun]

20. me too.

I have fought this shit for a half a century. It is time.

[Oneironaut]

18. It's the economy. People don't care about anything else.

I’m glad the economy is doing well, but most people don’t care about the suffering of others. They’ve got theirs, and that’s all that matters.

[Hoyt]

22. The simplest explanation -- there are a lot of ignorant, hateful white wing bigots in this country.

[wellst0nev0ter]

23. We need to accept the fact that

roughly half the country are fascists in waiting, and they need to be dealt with.

Everything else that ignores this fact is just handwringing and placating.

[smirkymonkey]

24. How are these polls conducted? By land line?

If so, that would account for the abnormally large percentage of people who approve of Trump since mostly only older people still have land lines. I have never, ever been polled. I would really like to know the methodology employed in these polls. I don't believe this approval rating for a second.

[bearsfootball516]

26. No credible polling firm conducts its polls solely by landline nowadays.

It looks like it was 60 percent cell phone, 40 percent landline. Also, 30 percent identified as Democrat, 25 percent Republican and 45 percent independant.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/06/19/rel6c.pdf

[LenaBaby61]

33. Usually, CNN'S polling polls more folks on the right ...

then they do center to the left. That's why I don't pay attention to any of their polling, even the polling which is favorable to Dems. With the exception of a few things I've watched which were of great importance (9/11, coverage of Katrina and the like), I haven't watched CNN since Turner unloaded it in the late 1990's. Friends who can stomach them, send me links to particular segments which they think I'd like seeing.

[RandySF]

27. Wasn't that around the time of his meeting with Kim?

[bdamomma]

28. Funny he didn't do

shit in NK, he didn't get anything from NK, so why do his ignorant followers sing him praises??

Fucking Fox news they need someone to tell them BS, and not read anything or research facts, oops, I am really being silly the dumbing down of America is still continuing.

[Freethinker65]

29. Meh. Let him think he is well above 50%. He would self destruct

Getting rid of pre existing conditions is not a positive

High tariffs and trade wars is not a positive

Talk of reducing social security and Medicare because of permanent GOP tax cuts to the wealthy is not a positive

Baby jails is not a positive

Demonizing Democrats/Pelosi plays well to his loyal base and GOP voters

Instilling fear of immigrants plays well for those already xenophobic

Melania wearing a jacket pretty much saying fuck everyone is neutral (at least it seemed honest)

[Yonnie3]

31. I am looking at the CNN poll

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/06/18/rel6a.-.immigration.pdf on page 2

11-17 June
38% approve (28% strong + 10% moderate)
54% disapprove (45% strong + 9% moderate)

That 10% moderate may be moveable.


Edit to add: Further down in the data only 28% approve of his handling of immigration that separates children.

[still_one]

34. I said it about a week ago, a good segment of the American population is racist. Some do not

subscribe to that, but the fact is trump did not hide his racism, sexism, or bigotry throughout the campaign, and a large segment of the population still voted for him.

People can rationalize things anyway they want, but the bottom line is we are not talking about people who didn't vote for trump, but those who voted for trump knowing perfectly well he was a racist, and that fact didn't bother them from voting for him

[heaven05]

37. like I've said

the people who voted for trump and who are digging in deeper in their approval of the buffoonish clown now potus, are the very same type people who, in the old south, drove by an AA lynch victim with a chuckle, grim determination in knowing black people "should know their place" or those that got pissed they missed the lynching.

Amerikan whites will never relinquish their racism based in part on white privilege and entitlement they would lose with true racial equality and racial justice. NEVER. So.....here we are.

[Thekaspervote]

35. Fivethirtyeight has had him at 42 for a couple of weeks

Yes, it should be 10-12 percent. Not sure why it isn’t other than sheer stupidity

[rzemanfl]

36. I think a small percentage of people are afraid to say anything bad about Drumpf.

The worse he behaves, the more likely those scared people are to say they approve of his shit, because it gets scarier every damn day.