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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:34 PM Jun 2018

The Trump Organization Says It's 'Not Practical' to Comply With the Emoluments Clause

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trumps-company-isnt-tracking-all-the-money-it-gets-from-foreign-governments/527997/

The president’s business tells lawmakers it is too difficult to track all its foreign revenue in accordance with constitutional requirements, and it hasn’t asked Congress for a permission slip.

...In a statement accompanying his letter, Cummings said the president had two options if his company could not adequately track payments from foreign governments. One would be to do what Democrats and independent ethics officials have long urged: fully divest from his businesses. Short of that, Trump
could submit a proposal to Congress asking for its consent to a different arrangement.



or #3 - He could fucking resign!
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The Trump Organization Says It's 'Not Practical' to Comply With the Emoluments Clause (Original Post) ashling Jun 2018 OP
It is a law dude! BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #1
He doesn't give a fuck about "the law"... ADX Jun 2018 #7
I guess we need to keep donating to groups who have hired attorneys to fight BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #12
This malaise Jun 2018 #16
Let Jimmy Carter explain it to him. eppur_se_muova Jun 2018 #2
Yeah, remember when Carter gave up his family's peanut farm? Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #15
I remember it well. And he did so w grace. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #31
I like #3 SallyHemmings Jun 2018 #3
Dems could impeach Red Don on this alone, that's why presidents have always aired on the side uponit7771 Jun 2018 #4
Yep. Obama would have been impeached, even if Dems had control of both chambers. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #44
gee that's too bad 0rganism Jun 2018 #5
Yep, those pesky laws are very impractical for crook and conmen. nt procon Jun 2018 #6
How about we just seize all those assets and sell them off ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #8
The orange piece of shit has been in office for a year and a half....... a kennedy Jun 2018 #9
I'll take door number 3, Monty. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2018 #10
He'll get away with it until someone stops him. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #11
Someone bdamomma Jun 2018 #17
That,too. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #22
Well, I have an idea for me. Yonnie3 Jun 2018 #13
So it is difficult for the Trump Organization to not act like criminals and thieving assholes dalton99a Jun 2018 #14
They don't have to ACT like criminals and... 3catwoman3 Jun 2018 #23
Just enforcing the laws! elias7 Jun 2018 #18
US Constitution, Art II, Sec 3: he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, struggle4progress Jun 2018 #19
Isn't there something in the Bible about the law and government? Caliman73 Jun 2018 #20
Womp, womp. sinkingfeeling Jun 2018 #21
He should not have run for president. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #24
The real shame of it all is.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #37
Oh well I guess since it's complicated, then no fuckin worries, Our Bad. Volaris Jun 2018 #25
tRump would add to that list.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #38
And Congress. ALWAYS so complicated with those guys. Volaris Jun 2018 #40
LOL. If the shoe fits...... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #42
Can't track money or children. Result of one is 6 bankruptcies & of the other is ... ? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #26
Funny Progressive2020 Jun 2018 #27
so, if I use my home for laundering Russian money NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #28
Which law malaise Jun 2018 #29
"This whole Russia thing is complicated so better stop investigating it" he might say. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #30
"This climate change stuff is not practical for making money old ways. Let's call it a hoax." . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #32
There are two solutions. Either sell off 100% or quit. LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #33
Is that like, "It's not practical for me to keep my neighbor's stuff I borrowed... Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #34
Complying with the law is so inconvenient. Amaryllis Jun 2018 #35
And I can't stop robbing banks world wide wally Jun 2018 #36
It's one or the other, dude FakeNoose Jun 2018 #39
Good news for the Trump organization........ MyOwnPeace Jun 2018 #41
Trump needs to divest Gothmog Jun 2018 #43
To be fair, Trump has already divested himself from ashling Jun 2018 #45
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
7. He doesn't give a fuck about "the law"...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jun 2018

...and he never has. He'll continue to get away with it until somebody gets up enough nerve and/or intestinal fortitude to stop him. It's a sad commentary on our leadership that to-date, no one has...

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
12. I guess we need to keep donating to groups who have hired attorneys to fight
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jun 2018

this shitty fake prez illegal behavior and business practices. He loves lawsuits, except if Mueller is involved it seems.

eppur_se_muova

(36,283 posts)
2. Let Jimmy Carter explain it to him.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:38 PM
Jun 2018

If Mr. Stable Genius isn't able to manage moving his investments out of the way, he should stay home with them, and leave the WH to someone honest.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
31. I remember it well. And he did so w grace.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:02 PM
Jun 2018

Too late. You promised you'd NOT do it dt. We RELIED on that. We have damages...lots of damages at this point.
WE NEED A REMEDY.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
4. Dems could impeach Red Don on this alone, that's why presidents have always aired on the side
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jun 2018

... of not taking gifts of any kind because once the other party comes into party they can impeach for taking gifts.

0rganism

(23,967 posts)
5. gee that's too bad
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jun 2018

guess they'll have to close up shop, what a shame
and some of them might have to have a little chat in a courtroom about emoluments. again, what a shame.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. How about we just seize all those assets and sell them off
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jun 2018

so the damage he has caused can be paid back in full.

a kennedy

(29,705 posts)
9. The orange piece of shit has been in office for a year and a half.......
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jun 2018

and they haven’t gotten this taken care of it yet??? WTF??? Show your damn tax papers or resign.

Yonnie3

(17,478 posts)
13. Well, I have an idea for me.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:53 PM
Jun 2018

It's too complicated and difficult to track our small business' income and expenses. We have to track in state, out of state, whether it is a service or a physical product and on and on and the rules keep changing.

Therefore it is not practical to file State, Federal or local taxes. We are not going to comply with the tax laws.

It will take a few years, but my business will be seized and they will come after my personal assets.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?


ETA: I forgot - Show us your taxes.

3catwoman3

(24,032 posts)
23. They don't have to ACT like criminals and...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jun 2018

...thieving assholes. They ARE criminals and thieving assholes.

struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
19. US Constitution, Art II, Sec 3: he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jun 2018

unless, of course, he doesn't want to, in which case we shall instead have a military parade to remember the Bowling Green Massacre and the terrible Battle of Red Hen, in which many great American soldiers, both of the North and South, died

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
20. Isn't there something in the Bible about the law and government?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jun 2018

I can't seem to recall, something in Romans 13...

Or is that just for when they want to justify slavery or ripping babies out of the arms of refugees?

Either the law is the law, or it isn't ... Bastards!

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
24. He should not have run for president.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jun 2018



Not if he could not comply with the requirements of the office.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
37. The real shame of it all is....
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jun 2018

there should be electoral laws in place to requires candidates wishing to run in primary elections to certify they can properly divest from their business interests. Even better, they could be required to submit a summary of how they propose to execute that process.

If they did so certify but it was proven they did not or could not divest, then they should be subject to immediate recall.

Anyone with enough sense to get in out of the rain knew tRump could not completely isolate himself for his businesses, and we knew that the day he announced.

........ ..........

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
25. Oh well I guess since it's complicated, then no fuckin worries, Our Bad.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jun 2018

Murder trials are complicated. I guess no more of those, just kill whoever the fuck u want.

Taxes. TAXES are complicated, so im glad i won't have to pay them anymore.

U know what else is complicated? Goddamn long division. Let's ban it outright.

Feel free to add your own, and I don't care which prison he dies in.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
38. tRump would add to that list....
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jun 2018

Impeachment is really, really hard. REALLY hard, so why bother when there's so much golf to be played.

.......... .........

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
40. And Congress. ALWAYS so complicated with those guys.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jun 2018

I know...I'll just disband Congress and change my name to Palpatine...yeah, THAT'S THE TICKET.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
42. LOL. If the shoe fits......
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 07:52 AM
Jun 2018

Perfect!

he is depicted as the aged, pale-faced and cloaked Emperor of the Galactic Empire and the Sith master of Darth Vader. In the prequel trilogy, he is portrayed as a middle-aged charismatic Senator from Naboo who uses deception and political manipulation to rise to the position of Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic before transforming the Republic into the Empire.
(credit: Wikipedia)

....... ........

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
27. Funny
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jun 2018

"The law is too complicated to follow, so I am exempt from the law" is not a valid legal defense. It is laughable that the Trump Organization takes this position. We are through the Looking Glass. If a Democrat tried half of the BS that Trump and his people do, the Dem would have been Impeached or Prosecuted long ago. We live in a Circus Reality where Trump is just an endless stream of legal and moral violations without consequences. Impeach, Oppose, Resist. Blue Wave in 2018, Trump out no later than 2020.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
28. so, if I use my home for laundering Russian money
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jun 2018

I can say it's not practical for me to follow the laws?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Is that like, "It's not practical for me to keep my neighbor's stuff I borrowed...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jun 2018

because it's too much trouble to track it, once I mix it with my own stuff"?

FakeNoose

(32,731 posts)
39. It's one or the other, dude
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jun 2018

You don't get to have both. You knew that when you started, and you've been dodging this for two years now.
Every day the lies are worse and shit gets deeper. Just resign the fucking job if you don't want it.



MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
41. Good news for the Trump organization........
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:40 PM
Jun 2018

"The president’s business tells lawmakers it is too difficult to track all its foreign revenue in accordance with constitutional requirements"

The good news for them is that they don't have to worry about that - seems as though Robert Mueller (heard of him?) and his people are busy taking care of that little matter for them.

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