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Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:35 PM Aug 2012

UGH, wing-nuts are already pulling the false equivalence shit with the Sikh shooting.

So, I posted the shooting story on another message board, and this exchange ensued:


Me: The police called it an act of domestic terrorism, and a left-winger would never shoot up a Sikh temple.

RW nut: No, a left-wing extremist would be too busy working for foreign terrorists as opposed to being a domestic one.

Me: Name an example or shut up.

RW nut: How about President Obama's terrorist buddy Bill Ayers, and his Weather Underground terrorists, as an example? Or people, to a moderately lesser extent, like Jeremiah Wright who bespeak of Latin American socialist "Liberation theology" who scream "God d**n American!" and would rather see nothing but the downfall of this nation? Black Panthers are another shining example.

There's no excuse for terrorism from any side of the aisle - it's just as vile no matter where it comes from. And there's no defense of scum like the KKK or the Black Panthers.

But you're not wanting a discussion on the threat of terrorism. You're wanting to throw out a tragedy for political punches to say: "Look, I was right! Right wingers are terrorists!" so it serves your personal ideology that you constantly eschew here with throwing out words like 'racist'; "bigot"; "domestic terrorist"; "hate-monger" etc. to anyone you politically disagree with on political matters. You do it time and time again. And while it's not nearly as crass or ugly as terrorism itself feeling any modicum of "See, I told you they were all nuts!" in taking from the tragedy of others any degree of self-assurance in your ideology is absolutely disgusting.

Me: Ayer was no longer a terrorist when he worked with Obama.

And that you consider the Black Panthers equivalent to the KKK and consider Liberation Theology to be terrorism tells me that arguing with you is pointless. Sad that you call your fellow Catholics terrorists because you disagree with them theologically.

RW nut: "No longer a terrorist". So that makes it okay I guess. Hanging out with Ted Kaczynski as a buddy because he doesn't kill people any longer is okay since he's no longer a terrorist.

Yeah, you're right, having a conversation with you is pointless.





Note how he talks about our side helping foreign terrorists, and When I ask him to name names he goes off a red herring with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.

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UGH, wing-nuts are already pulling the false equivalence shit with the Sikh shooting. (Original Post) Odin2005 Aug 2012 OP
Yep, were all anti's now.... DainBramaged Aug 2012 #1
Why even bother? Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #2
I'm a compulsive arguer. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #3
Me too revolution breeze Aug 2012 #4
:) Poiuyt Aug 2012 #7
That's me, LOL! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #12
No, you didn't. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #15
No you're not! Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #14
So, their response is to go 50 years back for an example? Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #5
Well, to be totally fair... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #9
What took 'em so long? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #6
Bill Ayers isn't a terrorist, and never was Scootaloo Aug 2012 #8
dude... these are not just right wing nuts, they are SOCIOPATHS fascisthunter Aug 2012 #10
The sad thing is that this wingnut I was arguing with is an otherwise decent guy. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #11
aw, crap... I know what you mean fascisthunter Aug 2012 #13
Sorry to say, but you lost that argument. Dawgs Aug 2012 #16

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
12. That's me, LOL!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:14 PM
Aug 2012

When I was a kid I always got in trouble because I compulsively corrected people.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. Well, to be totally fair...
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
Aug 2012

A lot of posters around here are still living in the Fantasy Sixties, too.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Bill Ayers isn't a terrorist, and never was
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
Aug 2012

He's a vandal. He blew the head off a statue. some in the weather Underground did plot and possibly carry out acts of terrorism - Ayers was not among them.

He's also equating latin america to terrorism.

How do you talk to these people without stuffing their own arms down their throats?

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
10. dude... these are not just right wing nuts, they are SOCIOPATHS
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:11 PM
Aug 2012

these are sick, devious individuals who make shit up to justify their detriments to society and their apathy towards victims.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
11. The sad thing is that this wingnut I was arguing with is an otherwise decent guy.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
Aug 2012

But get into anything political and he is a raving nut.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
13. aw, crap... I know what you mean
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:16 PM
Aug 2012

I have had politically brainwashed friends in the past and they always seemed set into a mode of thought, that never was congruent with the way they really felt.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
16. Sorry to say, but you lost that argument.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:54 AM
Aug 2012

You shouldn't have let him use Obama as someone who represents the left - even if you think he does.

Also, you shouldn't have let him use Ayers like he did.

You could have done better.

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