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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:04 PM Jun 2018

They're reframing the debate on us...again.

The Red Hen incident, in this case, has become about "civil discourse." Somehow Sanders was refused service because of her political beliefes. Excuse me, since when is blatantly lying to the American people a "belief?" The Red Hen owner was quite clear what this was about; Sanders' LYING. Not her beliefs. Her inability to tell the truth on even provable facts, with no compunction, not a care in the world. That is not a belief. That is not civil discourse. This is about something very specific, yet we're being told it's all about being nice to each other -- of course, by the party that is doing the lying and not being nice.

And we're letting them do it. Again.

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They're reframing the debate on us...again. (Original Post) Atman Jun 2018 OP
We can frame back. ck4829 Jun 2018 #1
What's that saying again awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #2
Then don't promote how they are framing it. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #3
explaining it to those who may not get it... lame54 Jun 2018 #13
Stick to your guns. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #14
Controlling the narrative is not our strong suit. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #4
It's not political onlyadream Jun 2018 #5
Bigots are not a protected class. CrispyQ Jun 2018 #6
Who gets to define 'bigot'? Amishman Jun 2018 #10
Well who gets to define bigot & who gets to make the rules is what this fight is all about. CrispyQ Jun 2018 #12
She is a true enemy of the people. world wide wally Jun 2018 #7
We need to counter with video clips of their nasty behavior. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #8
Lying is not 'civil discourse' plain and simple. n/t iscooterliberally Jun 2018 #9
If caging babies is her belief C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #11

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. Controlling the narrative is not our strong suit.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jun 2018

The "liberal media" narrative has been allowed to dominate for several decades, for instance.

onlyadream

(2,167 posts)
5. It's not political
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jun 2018

If it was political, then the owner wouldn’t serve any republican (assuming the owner is a dem).
It’s about morals, and deceit. SHS lies through her teeth, as her face makes the most amazing contortions, which I assume is akin to a sphincter attempting to eject a pile of shit.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
10. Who gets to define 'bigot'?
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jun 2018

Limitations on freedoms can be dangerous, especially with conservative activists more than willing to twist definitions.

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
12. Well who gets to define bigot & who gets to make the rules is what this fight is all about.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jun 2018

We've slowly been making progress, but that's all at risk now.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/colorado-employment-discrimination-31680.html

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