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So nothing could be done about McConnell and the SCOTUS hostage ? (Original Post) G_j Jun 2018 OP
Had it been the other way around Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #1
This is true and we all know it. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #14
If there had been Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #2
The constitution only states "with the advice and consent of the Senate" Jake Stern Jun 2018 #3
Obama could have appointed a SCOTUS Liberalhammer Jun 2018 #4
Obama could not appoint a judge fallout87 Jun 2018 #8
"A recess appointment would have been only temporary." LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #16
I agree 100% fallout87 Jun 2018 #21
No he couldn't mythology Jun 2018 #9
Jeez Liberalhammer Jun 2018 #11
I could be wrong but I seem to remember there was a way awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #5
Recess appointment fallout87 Jun 2018 #10
We did not fight them Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #6
Obama's "recess" appointments were overruled by the SC LeftInTX Jun 2018 #7
I guarantee that if Dems take the Senate and pull a similar move on the GOP they'll come up Vinca Jun 2018 #12
The truth is the Democratic leadership didn't fight, including Obama manor321 Jun 2018 #13
The truth is that the Democratic leadership expected Hillary to win onenote Jun 2018 #15
The truth is that the Democratic leadership expected Hillary to win. LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #20
"We need all new leadership with all fighters." LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #18
He comes from a right wing state JI7 Jun 2018 #17
Even if Garland had received a vote, he likely woud have been voted down by the RW MichMan Jun 2018 #19

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,957 posts)
2. If there had been
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

don't you think that President Obama and the Democrats would have done it?

Jake Stern

(3,146 posts)
3. The constitution only states "with the advice and consent of the Senate"
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

It doesn't mandate the Senate take up a presidential appointment.

The Republicans are quite adept at exploiting the ambiguity of the constitution to achieve their ends.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
4. Obama could have appointed a SCOTUS
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jun 2018

Democrats are still playing by the old rulebook. I think most democrats still don't understand that the old rules are dead. Both parties need to abide by them to work.

The right, Repulicans, and Conservatives are Nazis and authoritarian.

The need to be attacked and their power diminished as such.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
8. Obama could not appoint a judge
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jun 2018

Without Senate confirmation. And a recess appointment would have been only temporary.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
16. "A recess appointment would have been only temporary."
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:20 PM
Jun 2018

True.

However if by some chance, Dems do gain both the House/Senate, would Schumer/Nancy even impeach fatso? Might I hear both or one say "That for the GOOD of the Country, we must heal ourselves, move on, and get down to the people's business," or some shit like that

I'm sorry, but after seeing Schumer/Nancy go after Maxine the other day the way that they did, and saying little to self-described-pussy-grabber-in-chief--who goes after both of them on the regular, I no longer trust them to do what's right, which would mean IMPEACHING tReasonous-in-chief IF Dems gain the House/Senate at some point.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
21. I agree 100%
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jun 2018

Notice how neither one of them have been talking impeachment? Maxine is one of the few who have the guts to do it despite a huge percentage of America that wants him impeached.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. No he couldn't
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jun 2018

Just stomping your feet and saying so doesn't mean it's true.

Be specific in how Obama could have appointed with the Senate in session.

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
5. I could be wrong but I seem to remember there was a way
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jun 2018

kind of a sneaky to have appointed Garland. No doubt the reps would've done it if the roles had been reversed.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
10. Recess appointment
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:17 PM
Jun 2018

Mitch would just keep the Senate in session.. and even if he did sneak a recess appointment in, it would have only been temporary. Those are the rules per the constitution.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
6. We did not fight them
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jun 2018

President Obama thought it was best to always be civil and not stoop to their level. He truly didn't understand the makeup of those animals on the other side. He never properly used the power of the bully pulpit. We should have scratched and clawed and gone after them with every ounce of our beings. Imagine if the same thing happened to Trump? Trump may be a dumpster fire but he would have been on the attack 24-7 until McConnell relented. He would have signed executive order after executive order targeting Kentucky and everything McConnell.

Our only hope is to elect a Democrat in 2020 and pray that God and Father Time visit Alito,Roberts,Gorsuch and Thomas.

LeftInTX

(34,294 posts)
7. Obama's "recess" appointments were overruled by the SC
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jun 2018

Apparently the Senate was not in "recess".

I don't know what could have been done.
But then, he could have appointed an "uber liberal" and the "uber liberal" could have refused to recuse themselves and find that they had been legally installed.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
12. I guarantee that if Dems take the Senate and pull a similar move on the GOP they'll come up
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

with something that probably lands in the Trump-biased Supreme Court. Democrats really gave the Turtle a pass when they shouldn't have. It pisses me off.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
13. The truth is the Democratic leadership didn't fight, including Obama
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jun 2018

We need all new leadership with all fighters.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
15. The truth is that the Democratic leadership expected Hillary to win
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jun 2018

as did most everyone here, as I recall.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
20. The truth is that the Democratic leadership expected Hillary to win.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:38 PM
Jun 2018

She won, but the election was rigged. Whether it was gerrymandering, voter-suppression or the ruskies interfering (They've never stopped interfering, and are expected to really meddle in this Fall's mid-terms). I don't care which Dem ran, they'd have lost to tRumputin as well--even a Senator Barack Obama would have lost given the dynamics of this last rigged General Election.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
17. He comes from a right wing state
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jun 2018

Voting matters.

There were people on here celebrating mary landrieu losing and Democrats losing the senate seat.

It comes down to who your voters are.

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
19. Even if Garland had received a vote, he likely woud have been voted down by the RW
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jun 2018

Nothing in our constitution requires that the president's choice always gets approved. Garland should have received the opportunity for a vote, but had he been voted down, he still wouldn't be on the bench.

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