Crowley is down by 10 or more points

[Legends303]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/26/17503094/new-york-primary-elections-2018-live-results

This looks like it will be an upset I can't see him winning this one.

[nycbos]

1. Damn

He could have been speaker one day which would have been a great asset for New York City . But leftists purists are unable to think at that level.

[Tom Rinaldo]

24. You mean "voters" right?

As in the person who has more "voters" supporting them wins over the person who has less "voters" supporting them, as in the "voters "of a district get to choose who they want as their representative in a fair election (not caucus) that only registered Democrats can "vote" in. Isn't that the way it is supposed to work?

[nycbos]

25. Yes

Doesn't mean voters aren't stupid.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. You're making WAYYYY too much sense!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Yeah, down with democracy.

[stevenleser]

52. Very analogous to GOP choosing Trump over career folks who at least somewhat knew what they

were doing.

The district traded someone who knew what they were doing for an ideologue who few in the house will take seriously.

[JCanete]

106. there is no comparisson and that is insulting. She is nothing at all like Trump. Voters for Ocasio

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are nothing like voters for Trump.

[Dawson Leery]

2. He was Pelosi's successor.

He was my choice.

Thanks professional left.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Since when is the left the enemy?!

[stevenleser]

51. When that portion of the left started making bad decisions. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. Oh please... the left is finally pulling the Democratic Party in a positive direction...

And Democrats are now being energized like never before, uniting around a more progressive, WINNING agenda, such as that advocated by Ocasio-Cortez.

[stevenleser]

56. Oh please yourself, this isn't hard at all. Their resume makes the choice obvious

If you would hire her over him, you should never be in a position to hire people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

59. LOL, yeah, forget democracy, let's just coronate the candidate with the best resume,

not the one who's best on the issues. Good thing the voting public is in charge of hiring and not you.

[stevenleser]

68. Your straw man doesn't make any point at all. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

72. The only strawman argument is your suggestion that the best resume should win over the candidate

on the correct side of the progressive issues that the voters obviously agreed with in overwhelmingly numbers.

[stevenleser]

75. That's not a straw man. I never said that was your position. In fact I happily assert

that is not your position.

You really should look up the meaning of straw man before you attempt to use it as an accusation.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. It's not my position that is in question. But, thanks for that.

[stevenleser]

84. Yes it is, because you made it in question when you said I used a straw man.

When you use words you don’t understand it creates problems like that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

86. Okay, if you say so... just like the best resume should win!! Riiiight!!

Ocasio-Cortez for President in 2028!!

[msongs]

3. maybe the new person will be an improvement nt

[Voltaire2]

4. Yay!

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a great progressive Democrat. Plus she is far more representative of what is now a majority Hispanic district. I guess it was her turn, right?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. Progressives are taking over... long overdue!

[standingtall]

5. I have no problem with elected Democrats losing in primaries to other Democrats

no one should be entitled to the parties nomination just because they won previously elections. I only have a problem when purist refuse to support the nominee in the general.

[quartz007]

29. +100

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Yup yup, the days of coronations are over... thankfully!!

[bettyellen]

60. Coronations? Okay then....

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Yes, standingtall has it EXACTLY right... I agree wholeheartedly with their statement!

[Bobert Vine]

6. Why is this a shocker?

Crowley didn't show up for the 2 of the 3 set debates, leaving voters being more informed more about Crowley's attitude towards his constituents, and giving Ms. Ocasio-Cortez the opportunity to represent her district.

I say good for Ocasio-Cortez for doing what Democrats should have been doing years ago! Meeting with their constituents, working for their constituents, and finally REPRESENTING their constituents.

It is an art long forgotten. It needs to be revived. Look at Lamb. Look at Ocasio-Cortez as an great example.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Not a shocker... being a Bernie supporter no doubt helped tremendously.

[MrsCoffee]

92. Lol

[txliberal2016]

7. Awesome

Ocasio-Cortez is a real one

[SubjectTrip]

8. Great news!

New, young progressive blood in NY is long overdue!

[BigmanPigman]

9. Wow, 56-42....she came out of nowhere.

Women are rockin' the vote!

[NY_20th]

42. Democratic women are kicking ass!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

85. There's a new sheriff in town... just shows you being on the people's

side of progressive issues beats a 10-to-1 money advantage every time!! Ocasio-Cortez for President in 2036!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

90. Not really... she's been workin her tail off, going door-to-door, for over a year

introducing herself to voters. She did one helluva job!! Congrats!!

[VMA131Marine]

10. Crowley wouldn't debate his challenger

That really sends the wrong message. It looks like the result will be another progressive woman elected to the House. I refuse to believe that's a bad thing.

[SubjectTrip]

12. Amen!

[disillusioned73]

21. Exactly.. I thought this was the party

Of diversity??? I don't understand all the angst.. the party is evolving, for the better..

[shanny]

44. I think he did debate her once

and got tattooed. Looked out of touch, mouthed platitudes, etc. while she was very clear, directed and explicit. And progressive.

[Donkees]

11. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Wins 12,857 57% Joseph Crowley 9,448 42%

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Wooooo-fuckin-hooooo!! A Bernie disciple no less!!

[marylandblue]

13. I don't see this as bad

It's an overwhelming Democratic district, so there is no chance of losing to a Republican in the fall. It's exactly the kind of district where there SHOULD be a real primary battle between Democrats, so people have a real choice.

[still_one]

19. Your assessment is correct, it will be a Democratic seat in November

[mvd]

23. True

If we can't get progressives in these districts, it would be hard to get them in others. Very nice breakthrough.

[ismnotwasm]

33. Oh whew, that's good

As she is a Democratic Socialist. Not a Democrat.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. In the Bernie mold... that's a GOOD thing!!

[marylandblue]

46. I'm not a Bernie fan, but I am okay with Democratic Socialism in general

The revolution may come about, but with a different leader.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. If someone comes along that can move forward the movement Bernie started, more power to em!!

[ismnotwasm]

47. I hope so

My Rep is Pramila Jayapal. She’s also a woman of color. She was an immigrant. She was endorsed by Bernie. I voted for her anyway. Every time I hear some asshole complain that Democrats “don’t stand for anything” (sic) I think of her grace and courage and strength. She’s a great addition to the Democratic Party. She is amazing. We get another woman of color like her, I will be more than satisfied.

[Jim Lane]

78. She is both a Democrat and a democratic socialist.

In this context, "Democrat" refers to membership in the Democratic Party. She is registered to vote as a Democrat. You know, that credential that Bernie Sanders is routinely derided for not having?

She won the Democratic primary and will appear on the general-election ballot as the Democratic nominee. You know, that course of action that Bernie Sanders is routinely derided for not following in his Senate races?

To say that someone is a democratic socialist is to describe his or her general political orientation. Not every democratic socialist is a Democrat, and not every Democrat is a democratic socialist, but there are plenty of people who are both democratic socialists and Democrats, just as there are people who are both progressives and Democrats.

[ismnotwasm]

80. Oh Jim. Jim. Ok. It's ok, it's cool.

I like what I’ve read about her. I also know what would happen if this wasn’t a safely blue district.

[Voltaire2]

107. What?

Are you somehow excluding all Democratic Socialists from the Democratic Party?

[brooklynite]

14. Meanwhile, Yvette Clarke (NY-9) is leading only by 250

Yvette Clarke*
12,437 50.5%

Adem Bunkeddeko
12,181 49.5

[JI7]

16. These are all democratic districts aren't they ?

So Democrats will win either way.

[still_one]

20. That is right

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Looks like that piece of shit Grimm lost. nt

[JI7]

17. I hate seeing that thug face of his

[NY_20th]

38. Yes. It was the highlight of the night.

[Jim Lane]

77. I was rooting for Grimm, who would've been the weaker GOP candidate

At one point there was talk that he might be on the November ballot anyway, on the Conservative Party line. (New York doesn't have a "sore loser" law.) That would be a big boost to our chance of taking the seat. Has anyone heard anything about that?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

79. You're right. I mistakenly thought the Bloated Pus Bag in the WH was backing Grimm. And yes,

come t think of it. He would've been the weaker candidate. I haven't heard about the Conservative Party issue.

[still_one]

18. Washington Post already called it, he lost

[Nanjeanne]

22. Congratulations Ocasio-Cortez. Well done!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

87. Just goes to show a 10-to-1 money advantage doesn't mean squat!!!

Progressivism is alive and well in America!!

Ocasio-Cortez for President in 2036!!

[RandySF]

27. It's a deep blue seat, so no biggie

But Our Revolution may have cost us a potential pickup in NY-24.

[Tavarious Jackson]

28. I am considered a centrist by most here on DU but I am really not.

I see this as great news and I believe she can win. We need women and women of color. I see this as a big win for democrats. Bye bye old white men.

[oberliner]

83. "Bye bye old white men"

All of them?

[Tavarious Jackson]

89. The ones who won't get up and fight

We need energy and people willing to shout. I like Adam Schiff, he fights!

[tonedevil]

105. Does that concern you? /nt

[oberliner]

108. Yes, I think there are some old white men who are great progressive champions

I wouldn't want to get rid of them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. Yup yup... it's about time for some new blood in the Democratic Party!!

[AtomicKitten]

35. A 28-year-old Latina Democratic Socialist beats a 10-term corporate sell-out.

Happy dance.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. Damn straight!!!

[RhodeIslandOne]

43. Can you explain how he was a "corporate" sell out?

Specifics please?

[AtomicKitten]

48. Here's a good summary. I'm out.

https://m.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. Good summary indeed!!

[stevenleser]

55. Aside from smears from someone we have never heard of there is no evidence

It’s just like Hillary was a corporate sellout and Kerry was a corporate sellout and Al Gore was a corporate sellout who was no better than Bush.

These are all silly Minister of Propaganda accusations that no serious person actually believes.

And for that we have traded a serious Democrat with seniority in the House and tons of experience for someone who has never held office before and has no idea what she is doing beyond the standard progressive line that any of a few million people can regurgitate.

[shanny]

45. ...

[AtomicKitten]

50. .

[ismnotwasm]

49. Corporate sell out. Really.

Jesus

[bottomofthehill]

53. Looks like a sell out to me👿 Or maybe not so much

Healthcare Edit
Since 2005, he has consistently received ratings of 100% from NARAL,[18] and 0% from the National Right to Life Committee.[19] In 2011, he opposed a bill that would have banned taxpayer funding for abortions, and in the 2010 election he was endorsed by Planned Parenthood. In 2018, Crowley received a voting record of 100% from Planned Parenthood.[20]

Since 2007, he has received a rating of 100% from the American Public Health Association, American Nurses Association, and the National Breast Cancer Coalition.[21]

Crowley has fought against the practice of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) both abroad and in the United States. In 2010, he introduced the Girls Protection Act of 2010, which would criminalize the transport of a female under the age of 18 years old to undergo FGM.[22]

Crowley has been a consistent supporter of the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (known as "Obamacare" or "ACA&quot . On March 22, 2010, he said, "I... support the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a historic measure that will put families first when it comes to accessing health care coverage."[23] He opposed repealing the act and voted against a repeal on January 19, 2011.[24] Also in 2011, he held an event to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the bill's passage.[25]

In 2015, he proposed a bill with Representative Sheila Jackson Lee encouraging the collection of data on the prevalence of FGM and create a plan to better prevent the practice, which is illegal in the United States.[26]

In 2017, Crowley signed on to H.R. 676, The Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act in the House of Representatives. This bill was introduced by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in September 2017.[27]

Immigration Edit
Crowley is a harsh critic of President Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and his decision to end DACA and Temporary Protected Status protection for qualifying immigrants in 2017. In 2017, Crowley introduced a bill that would grant green cards to undocumented workers who helped to recover and clean up New York City after the terrorist attacks on September 11.[28]

Economy and budget Edit
Crowley holds the view "that reducing barriers to investment, creating opportunities for small businesses, and providing equitable working conditions for all Americans can and should be part of our national economic policy" [29] He has supported federal spending as a way to increase economic growth. In 2008, he endorsed the Financial Asset Purchase Authority and Tax Law Amendments which established the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP) and allowed the Secretary of the Treasury to buy assets from troubled financial institutions.[30]

Crowley has advocated tax increases on the highest tax brackets, tax cuts for the middle class, and reduced defense spending. When serving on the Ways and Means Committee he stated, "I really don't see how it's justifiable or sensible to give a tax cut to the wealthiest among us, but at the same time increase taxes on U.S. soldiers."[31] He also applauded the 2009 Budget for ending the Alternative Minimum Tax, and ensuring tax cuts for 23 million middle class Americans.[32] In 2011, he opposed a bill that appropriated funds to the defense budget.[33]

In 2017, Crowley opposed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, saying its only goal was to give more tax cuts to America's top 1% than the working class. In December 2017, Crowley said in a floor speech, "It's a scam and the American people know it. Is this a bill that helps people who are living paycheck to paycheck? Hell no."[34]

Other positions Edit
Crowley has proposed legislation to improve conditions for renters in his district. In September 2017, he introduced the Rent Relief Act, which would give a refundable tax credits to renters.[35]

Crowley has a 2016 score of 95% from the League of Conservation Voters.[36]

Crowley's Irish roots have influenced his policy decisions in Congress as a member of the Friends of Ireland Caucus. He has worked on peace efforts for those involved in the conflict in Northern Ireland and securing refuge for those affected by the conflict.[37] Crowley spoke out against President Trump's effort to eliminate the position of United States Special Envoy for Northern Ireland.[38] Eventually, Trump reversed this decision.[39] Crowley was named Irish-American of the year by the Irish Echo in 2018.[40]

[ismnotwasm]

61. I don't know the district

If it wasn’t for DU, I wouldn’t have been aware of either one of them particularly. He doesn’t act like a sell out, and she looks and sounds like an exciting young face for our Political landscape.

I just have a huge problem with simplistic meme politics— “corporate sellout” being one of the most overused and misused memes ever.

[LeftInTX]

71. It's the Bronx/Queens

Very blue....

I think she fits the Demographics better. She's also young.

He spent alot of money on this campaign, but he got negative press from grassroots groups.

I wouldn't consider him a sellout, but a fresh face is good.

[ismnotwasm]

74. Good to know

I did some reading, being NO fan of OR. But like I said upthread, my personal rep was endorsed by Bernie Sanders—not a fan here either—but I am proud everyday to be one of her constituents. She kicks ass for Seattle.

[elleng]

58. How will this affect Dem leadership?

[bottomofthehill]

64. They will need to elect a new chairman of the democratic caucus for the next congress

The current vice chair is congresswoman Sanchez from California. Congressman Crowley may choose to step aside as there is no clear up for him

[Tavarious Jackson]

66. Hopefully the get off their ass and fight for the people.

They are being way to calm over Trump. If they don't stand up and fight they will lose.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

73. Maxine is not afraid to fight... leadership would be smart to take their cues from her!!

[Tavarious Jackson]

76. Agree.

They need to do what their constituents want. We want a fight!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. No shit!! Leadership better get on board or get out of the way!!

Are you listening Chuck Schumer?!?! You owe Maxine a HUGE apology.

[Tavarious Jackson]

91. I know Maxine's district.

She is doing exactly what her constituents want her to do.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. Yes, and Maxine's doing a great job resisting the Nazi-in-Chief & his jack-booted cohorts.

Maxine is showing leadership the way... too bad they're not paying attention.

[Tavarious Jackson]

94. Well ... Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Just might get Schumer thinking.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

96. Hope you're right... somehow I doubt it though.

[stevenleser]

67. The answer is, it immediately makes us weaker. We're down one experienced person

In the leadership.

Crowley is immediately a lame duck so he has little ability to help fight anything that Trump does over the next six months.

His replacement will be a junior member of the house who will need at least three to six months to even understand how to do the job

[ismnotwasm]

69. I'm really hoping she gets better mentorship once she enters practical politics

There are good women and men out there who can help guide her. But yeah she’s not going to be speaker of anything for a while.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

95. LOL, Ocasio-Cortez is the one who should be doing the mentoring...

like on how to win elections by taking strong, progressive positions to beating the #4 Democrat in the House, with a 10-to-1 money advantage. Tyner people have fuckin' spoken... should try listening to them for a change!!

[ismnotwasm]

97. Sigh.

So you’re thinking she has a great deal of congressional experience and doesn’t need to listen to anyone? Ok I guess. I didn’t know that about her.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

98. Yeah, that's what I said... nice try though!

[ismnotwasm]

99. Ok.

[Zen Democrat]

70. There will be a vacant position.Crowley didn't match his district anymore. And he didn't live there.

The district is over 50% minority now.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

100. As it SHOULD be... the PEOPLE have spoken!!

[TomSlick]

62. GEEZ!

The last presidential primary is over - move on.

We cannot be carping among ourselves. There will be a Democrat (and a woman to boot) in the general election. If you're a Democrat in that district, your duty is clear.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

101. Our duty is 100% clear... how is this even in doubt?!?!

Oh wait, Ocasio-Cortez, a Bernie disciple, worked on his campaign... so let's criticize her for being young and inexperienced, who needs to be taught lessons on how to conduct herself in office... instead of being THRILLED that a young Latina won, by touting left-leaning progressive issues no less!!

How many of those now complaining keep saying we need new, younger candidates for President instead of the same elderly white guys running... but, apparently, a young woman of color is suddenly not good enough for the House of Representatives?!?! Gimme a break!!

[Tavarious Jackson]

103. She is just fine for me

I was not and am not a Bernie supporter but I still see myself to the left of the party. I just did not find his policy chops convincing for me. I do like her though. She fits the district, she worked hard, she reached out to the people, she has the energy the party needs. I see this as a healthy thing.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

104. Respect!

[Marbgd1]

102. OMG!! Talking sense!

I am only following this because I saw an earlier thread that this guy had some class, and that he immediately pledged his support to the challenger who had taken his place in the next general election. I do like it when someone's 'better angels" are taking charge of his mouth. A lesson I often need to re-learn ...

New blood, high energy, and maybe a willingness to get up-close and personal, and "in your face", with the Vampires who rule us? I'd vote for her.

Hey Bronx, don't forget what happened the last time somebody said an election was a lock? There are no safe seats in these times. Don't let it be anything less than a complete blow-out of whomever the Overlords offer-up as the R, or Conservative, or whatever.

Stick it in to the hilt, twist, twist some more as you draw it out. Move on to the next one. That is where we are at.

Luck to us all. And, don't forget to have fun!