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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNate Silver's take on Ocasio-Cortez's victory.
Looks like soon were wrapping up for the evening, so Id like to reiterate one last time the not-so-hot take that primaries are extremely idiosyncratic and one ought to be cautious about global conclusions from local events. On the one hand, Ocasio-Cortezs win was extremely impressive in New York 14 tonight against the establishment Democrat Joe Crowley; on the other hand, Chelsea Manning received only 6 percent of the vote in her challenge to establishment Democrat Ben Cardin in Marylands U.S. Senate primary. (Cardin won with 81 percent.)
I think pundits might do better to focus on the particular combination of attributes that Ocasio-Cortez brought to the table: young, Latina, from the community, media-savvy enough to draw a lot of coverage from lefty outlets (but not very much from mainstream outlets, which she may not have wanted anyway), ran some good ads, very openly and proudly a progressive Democratic socialist, but also running against an old white dude who, while mostly a party-line Democrat, was asleep at the wheel in a district that had undergone a lot of demographic change. And the race was maybe in an in-between zone whereas it was just competitive enough that her voters were excited and turned out, but also enough to the periphery of the radar enough that Crowleys voters didnt.
Which of those elements were most essential to her success? Which of those factors might be replicated elsewhere? Its hard to say. My personal bias is to think being cut from the cloth of the district is pretty important, whereas candidates who are famous for other reasons, such as Cynthia Nixon (who hasnt made up her deficit with Andrew Cuomo in the polls) arent going to resonate in the same way and wont have the same underdog quality. But maybe the combination is pretty unique and will be hard to replicate given that shes the first challenger to defeat a Democratic incumbent for the U.S. House since 2014.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/june-26-election-results/
JI7
(89,244 posts)probably still connected to Assange and the rest of that bunch.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)For the most part, establishment-supported candidates are dominating.
RandySF
(58,696 posts)NY and MD are very blue states with very blue districts, giving residents the option to elect more prgressive options. Crowley failed to adjust to the changes in his district and paid a price. On the other hand, the moderate Jason Crow was nominated to challenge Mike Coffman in Colorado.
NY-14 is a safe district, and Ocasio-Cortez is very impressive.
Those who are winning Democratic primaries are those who are most likely to win in November. Some would argue that Jealous is a possible exception, but I figure he has as good a chance or better than Baker (Hogan is the favorite either way).
Cha
(297,044 posts)Thank you, RSF
Cha
(297,044 posts)Thanks, Garrett
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)district. This is a split from Bernie, who doesnt want to abolish ICE. Looks like that was a timely position for her with the immigration issues.
I remember when Loretta Sanchez beat the old GOPer BoB Dornan years ago and there was a recount because no one believed a Latina could beat an established white male GOPer in conservative Orange County CA. The Latino neighborhood shifts pushed her over. This has been trending for awhile, as we all know.