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BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:46 AM Jun 2018

California woman goes on racist rant, calls man 'rapist' and 'animal'

California woman goes on racist rant, calls man 'rapist' and 'animal'

By: KRON4 Staff

Posted: Jun 26, 2018 04:19 PM EDT
Updated: Jun 26, 2018 04:32 PM EDT

SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY (KRON) -- A video of a woman verbally attacking a Latino man and his mother for being Mexican has gone viral. In the video, a woman goes on an anti-immigrant rant using racial slurs and even sticks her middle finger in Esteban Guzman's face. Guzman, a U.S. citizen born and raised in California, says he and his mother were working in a yard in Running Springs when a woman started yelling insults toward them. She calls them "rapists" and "animals."

"Why do you hate us," Guzman asks the woman.

"Because you're Mexicans," she replies in the video. The woman also said, "even the President of the United States says you're a rapist."

Guzman talked with CNN after the video went viral saying he won't let the woman deter him from standing up for himself, his mother and the people that "don't have a voice in this country. "

http://www.wric.com/news/california-woman-goes-on-racist-rant-calls-man-rapist-and-animal-/1265563635


Video of incident in tweet below -



TEXT

therealkenidrawoods

@KenidraRWoods_

A friend, Esteban Guzman sent me this video of a racist white woman harassing him while out working with his mom.

"Why do you hate us?"
"Because you're Mexicans."
"We are honest people right here!"
"Haha..yeah.. rapists & animals."

Trump supporters always reveal themselves 1/2
3:05 AM - Jun 25, 2018


(heard on Joe Madison about 10 minutes ago)

EDIT - found the video on youtube posted by The Guardian -

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California woman goes on racist rant, calls man 'rapist' and 'animal' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 OP
Just in case there is any doubt genxlib Jun 2018 #1
I guess this is some of that famous civility The Genealogist Jun 2018 #2
Exactly BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #4
Is she going to be called Garden Gertie ? rickford66 Jun 2018 #3
This shit cannot be put back in the bottle. Exotica Jun 2018 #5
Question trixie2 Jun 2018 #6
Thing is BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #9
I didn't make my point clear, sorry trixie2 Jun 2018 #14
I understood your post BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #16
You are so right! trixie2 Jun 2018 #19
This makes me just want to barf out my entire soul. VOX Jun 2018 #7
One thing to note BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #13
It makes me sad that my Mexican neighbors who live in my large white republican rainin Jun 2018 #8
Don't worry about that, they judge you by your actions. They know there are people FSogol Jun 2018 #18
Who is she? Name and shame, this is the only way to take these animals down a few notches Tarc Jun 2018 #10
The concern in this case BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #11
amerika, as always heaven05 Jun 2018 #12
So anyone got her name yet? irisblue Jun 2018 #15
Not that I have found BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #17
Trump has given these people permission to expose their worst most disgusting selves. Hekate Jun 2018 #20
There's a simple reason we can win against racists: they're deluded struggle4progress Jun 2018 #21
Poll: 64 percent say racism remains major problem struggle4progress Jun 2018 #22
What I think happens BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #25
Thank goodness for cameras, radius777 Jun 2018 #23
The irony is BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #24
Exactly, everyone aside from Native Americans is an immigrant, radius777 Jun 2018 #30
Yup. BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #31
I would have lost my shit at the end there Kentonio Jun 2018 #26
If he had lost his shit BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #27
Yeah, he absolutely did the right thing Kentonio Jun 2018 #28
Kindof reminded me of this BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #29
He's civil UTUSN Jun 2018 #32

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
2. I guess this is some of that famous civility
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jun 2018

This isn't uncivil because he isn't a Republican being asked to leave a restaurant. Trumpland logic.

Trump and co have enabled this kind of disgusting behavior and have made it clear that Dems are to stand aside and let it happen or are being uncivil. Bullcrap.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
4. Exactly
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:59 AM
Jun 2018

And when you complain they say "Well you can't 'legislate civility' or 'you are being politically correct'". Yet they also tell you that you are "not allowed" to do this. Just. Because.

trixie2

(905 posts)
6. Question
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:12 AM
Jun 2018

If he is a rapist, murder and thief then why was she allowed to walk away? The only loudmouth was hers. I wonder if she had a "I love Jesus" bumper sticker.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
9. Thing is
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:25 AM
Jun 2018

per this -

<...>

Guzman worked five weekdays as a systems administrator outside Los Angeles, he said, then commuted every weekend to Lake Arrowhead to help with the family cleaning, landscaping and construction business around the mountainous area.

<...>

His mother actually is from Mexico, he said. She is still a Mexican citizen, 27 years after giving birth to him in Southern California. “My mom is illegal,” Guzman told The Post. “She doesn’t have a work permit. She doesn’t have any documentation.”

He declined to give her name but said she had spent the past three decades in the United States, raising him and his brother as a single parent, cleaning other people’s properties so that he could go to college — California State Polytechnic University at Pomona, class of 2017, he said. And now, in 2018, a woman Guzman had never seen before was telling his mother to go back to Mexico — over the issue of pine needles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/26/rapist-she-yelled-at-a-hispanic-man-shes-quoting-the-president-he-thought/?utm_term=.2d1d7f67c44d


I.e., his mother came here for a better life and had a child who ultimately went to college and had a steady job in a STEM field, but who also continued to do side work to help the family. The very thing they claim people are "supposed to do". Yet apparently that doesn't apply to POC.

trixie2

(905 posts)
14. I didn't make my point clear, sorry
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jun 2018

If this Mexican man (per her words) was such an awful person, rapist, murder and thief then a person who is a murder or rapist would not have just stood there. I guess my point is that obviously he is none of those things and she walked away unscathed.

She was not in fear of him and felt empowered to yell her racist crap.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
16. I understood your post
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jun 2018

and I think based on the article I linked to, that knowing he wasn't any of the horrid things she proclaimed, he also made a conscious decision not to make an extra fuss in response, allowing her to continue to spew her bullshit (and knowing this, his mother was trying to just wrap things up and leave).

Knowing the history of this country, the minute that he might have decided to become just a bit aggressive, it would have been the end for him and is mother. The woman was emboldened because she is "protected by (white) society". She has a special kind of white privilege because if she feels "threatened", either physically, emotionally, or all made up in her mind, her husband/brother/son/uncle/white male neighbor will protect her. I.e., she can do this -

VOX

(22,976 posts)
7. This makes me just want to barf out my entire soul.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:15 AM
Jun 2018

This is Trump's America, and this is how we're perceived around the world-- as the biggest, dumbest, meanest assholes on the planet. Congratulations, Trumputniks, you've done a heckuva job in destroying our democracy. Good thing we're pals with Kim and Pootie now, so not only do we have good friends, we now have **the best** crooks on our team! MAGA!

Man, if I were younger, I'd be getting the hell outta Dodge right now, heading to Vancouver or Sydney or Christchurch. But I'll be 70 next year, and I'm so enraged at Republicans and the far-right, that what I want to really say is unprintable.

But I'll stick it out and give these right-wing bastards hell every day, until the last day, which I hope isn't for a long while yet.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
13. One thing to note
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jun 2018

is that the rest of the world is generally like this too. The difference being that the U.S. hypocritically claims that we "welcome all" and we are not as "homogeneous" as the countries in the rest of the world, that homogeneity being what usually stokes "nationalism".

What has set us apart as being "different" however, are the laws and the courts that attempt to enforce "equality of all" (regardless of race, ethnicity, previous nationality, gender, etc). However that whole route is being slowly broken down by the current administration in order to promote (Euro-derived) nationalism.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
8. It makes me sad that my Mexican neighbors who live in my large white republican
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:15 AM
Jun 2018

city can't tell me apart from this woman. I want to tell each and every one I don't think like this. I also wish my Muslim neighbors could tell us apart. We're not all this way.

FSogol

(45,532 posts)
18. Don't worry about that, they judge you by your actions. They know there are people
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jun 2018

who support and appreciate them.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
10. Who is she? Name and shame, this is the only way to take these animals down a few notches
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jun 2018

That Kenidra Woods who tweeted this says she's been looking, but so far no luck.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
11. The concern in this case
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:35 AM
Jun 2018

is the fact that Guzman's mother is undocumentated (per my post #9 here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210794353#post9) and they would probably find her and deport her in a hot minute.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. amerika, as always
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:38 AM
Jun 2018

it has been. Its just now these wypipo can openly practice their hate, bigotry, racism and prejudice openly. Glad there are camera phones now. God this is so fucking hateful. Well I promise an eye for an eye and a insult for an insult. PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hekate

(90,847 posts)
20. Trump has given these people permission to expose their worst most disgusting selves.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018

They are dangerous -- mobs just waiting to form.

struggle4progress

(118,378 posts)
21. There's a simple reason we can win against racists: they're deluded
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jun 2018

But it's important not to let the virus spread, because it's one thing to live in a society where 15% of the population is deluded, and another thing entirely to live in a society where 85% of the population is deluded

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
25. What I think happens
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 05:50 AM
Jun 2018

is that since this country is actually ethnically/racially heterogeneous, what would have normally been "inter-ethnic strife" within racial groups (micro-level), ends up being "racial strife" between numerous ethnicities of one racial group vs numerous ethnicities of another (macro-level).

I.e., in Europe you saw Irish vs English or French vs Germans, and in Africa, we saw Tutsis vs Hutus or Ethiopians vs Eritreans, or in Asia the Japanese vs Koreans or Vietnamese vs Cambodians, etc.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. Thank goodness for cameras,
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:24 PM
Jun 2018

as the world now gets to see what PoC deal with on a daily basis.

What drives white populism in all its flavors left and right, is white entitlement, the idea that the world belongs to them economically, culturally and otherwise - and there are all of these uninvited darkies contaminating their perfect world.

This guy was born here but his brown skin means he'll never be a "true American" in the eyes of many whites... same sentiment against Obama that drove the birther movement which Trump rode to power.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
24. The irony is
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 05:21 AM
Jun 2018

that the vast majority of POC (blacks, Mexicans, Native Americans) have ancestors who were here well before the ancestors of these whites yelling the epithets and insisting that this is "their country" while demanding that POC "go back to <fill in the blank>".

I.e, Ellis Island and other ports along the east coast, are estimated to have processed some 40% of the current U.S. population (predominately Europeans), and that "formal" processing was done well after the Civil War, and included those Europeans fleeing the horrors of WWI & WWII. Drumpf's grandfather came here in 1885 and his mother came here in 1930.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
30. Exactly, everyone aside from Native Americans is an immigrant,
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jun 2018

and most Europeans who came here didn't come here perfectly legally either... they act like they stepped off the Mayflower with a lawyer carrying impeccable paperwork and fulfilling all requirements, ready to 'add value' to an America that welcomed them with open arms.

The fact is, European immigrants were the 'Mexicans' of the Industrial Era... they were poor laborers mostly, and there were nativist movements that saw them as subhuman as well. WASPS didn't want Catholics, Irish/Italian were considered non-white, etc. JFK himself faced alot of discrimination, questions about his allegiance to the Pope, etc. The xtian fundies really raked him over the coals.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
31. Yup.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jun 2018

1844 here in Philly - Nativist riot against Irish Catholics -



On May 3, 1844, members of a political organization called the American Republican Party — known as “nativists” because they favored the rights of those born here over those of immigrants — held a public rally in Kensington, where many of the Irish Catholics had settled. Local residents took umbrage and attacked the platform where the nativists were speechifying. The nativists fled, but three days later they returned — thousands of them. Fights, predictably, broke out between them and the Irish Catholics. Somebody started shooting from the windows of buildings. Several nativists were killed, inciting their mob to attack the Seminary of the Sisters of Charity and a few local homes. Two more nativists died, and dozens of people were injured.

Read more at https://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/12/17/philadelphia-anti-catholic-riots-1844/#HQLdhzf41UL0r8yT.99


This was before the "Civil War/Lincoln Republican Party". It was the "Republican Party" that we are seeing today, a few decades before the Civil War.

But since they don't teach this in the primary or secondary schools (although it would be part of college history courses), all of this history is forgotten and amnesia sets in. The culmination of the anti-Catholic sentiment shown in the above lead to one of the reasons why JFK and RFK were assassinated, yet you have a generation of of turncoats like the Irish Catholic Pat Buchanan who have become "Nativist".

Of course at one time, what is now Texas WAS a part of Mexico, so when the U.S. won a war and took over that land right around the same time as Irish were being attacked up here (1840s), it's ludicrous for people to keep wondering why "all those Mexicans" are there.

BumRushDaShow

(129,608 posts)
27. If he had lost his shit
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 05:54 AM
Jun 2018

his mother would have most likely been reported by that woman and deported. That is why the mother tried to get him to just finish up, gather their stuff, and leave.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
28. Yeah, he absolutely did the right thing
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 05:56 AM
Jun 2018

Just not sure I could have been as calm when that vile creature started wagging her finger at him and saying ‘come here little boy’.

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