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backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:01 AM Aug 2012

neighbors are having a huge fight

he has a history of being violent.I have already called 911 but the cops aren't here yet.If he gets violent do i wait on the cops or intervene?.Can here them through the wall so i have a good idea how it is escalating

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neighbors are having a huge fight (Original Post) backwoodsbob Aug 2012 OP
nm backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #1
Thank goodness.... CherokeeDem Aug 2012 #8
let the police handle it upaloopa Aug 2012 #2
Wait, you did your part! B Calm Aug 2012 #3
Do not intervene DearAbby Aug 2012 #4
Wait for the cops if at all possible... CherokeeDem Aug 2012 #5
Thank you SO MUCH for making the call. Care Acutely Aug 2012 #6
It is FAR TOO dangerous for you to intervene dballance Aug 2012 #7
I did exactly that when... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #21
Thank you for your concern and courage dballance Aug 2012 #22
It's probably a bad idea to directly intervene unless someone is in danger. Renew Deal Aug 2012 #9
STAY AWAY!!!! Let the cops handle it. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #10
You did the right thing. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #11
I once read... physioex Aug 2012 #12
I once had neighbors like that. Here's what I did. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #13
Been there... physioex Aug 2012 #15
Agreed! It's never simple. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #18
update....dumnass is going to jail backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #14
Bravo, you did the right thing. EOM physioex Aug 2012 #16
Don't tell anyone you called 911 Kaleva Aug 2012 #19
So glad you called 911!! progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #17
re re update backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #20
Call out and say do you want to come to my house until the cops arrive? applegrove Aug 2012 #23

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
5. Wait for the cops if at all possible...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:08 AM
Aug 2012

couples fighting have a tendancy to both turn on whoever intervenes. It's hard to stand by, but you don't know what weapons he has. Whatever you decide to do, please be careful.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
6. Thank you SO MUCH for making the call.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:08 AM
Aug 2012

I might still have all of my teeth if someone had done that for me once upon a time, long ago.

So bless you. You may never know what good you did today.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
7. It is FAR TOO dangerous for you to intervene
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:08 AM
Aug 2012

It is well known domestic disputes are some of the most dangerous calls police respond to. You are not trained to handle this.

Having said that, if you start hearing him throwing her around and beating the crap out of her I might have to intervene to the point of just knocking on the door and asking if everything is okay. That might deescalate the situation for a few minutes.

Very tough call.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
21. I did exactly that when...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:34 AM
Aug 2012

I heard some scary crying two apartments down.

Being a NYC cavedweller means you hear a lot of things, including the usual arguments, and most of the time you just tune it out. Sometimes, some people just gotta yell to get it out of their system.

This one time, though, there was a desperate wailing/crying sound that was, well, different. Couldn't say for sure it was physical, but couldn't be too sure it wasn't either. Called the cops first then knocked on the door, hoping they showed up soon if I needed them. Guy answered the door, saying she was "upset" and, yeah, that was pretty much all it took for the wailing to stop once they knew someone noticed and whatever was happening was interrupted.

Cops showed up a few minutes later and no one was hauled off. Didn't ask, nobody told, what happened in there, but the good news was it didn't escalate.





 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
22. Thank you for your concern and courage
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:13 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Mon Aug 6, 2012, 05:23 AM - Edit history (1)

My neighbors argue from time to time but it typically just consists of raised voices and foul language. There was one time I heard loud banging like things being thrown or overturned. I went next door and rang the bell. When the guy answered I simply stated it seemed a bit loud over there and asked if everything was okay? I tried to remain as neutral as possible. No asking if he was beating his wife or anything like that.

After that things calmed down right away.

It is a tough call. I was frightened to do what I did.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
10. STAY AWAY!!!! Let the cops handle it.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:15 AM
Aug 2012

We recently had a guy in my apartment building who went off his meds and was running around the parking area threatening people with a switchblade and trying to carjack them. He went back into his apartment and smashed his bedroom picture window as we watched, and I was just glad he didn't fling himself on the shards (he was 2nd floor).

Sometimes the crazy people of this world can be VIOLENT. I assume your neighbors are crazy, or perhaps just lack manners.

physioex

(6,890 posts)
12. I once read...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:27 AM
Aug 2012

The most dangerous calls for police officers are domestic violence. You did your part, leave it alone.....

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
13. I once had neighbors like that. Here's what I did.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:28 AM
Aug 2012

When it got bad I'd find someplace else to go. Go visit my sister, take a book to the park, go see a movie.

All the while I was working on finding another place so I could move away from them. The minute it became possible for me to move I packed up and was gone, and never looked back.

The first rule for being safe is "don't be where the trouble is."

physioex

(6,890 posts)
15. Been there...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:38 AM
Aug 2012

But it is not so simple as it brings up other issues like moving expenses, commuting, terms of lease, finding a place, family, etc... Anyways, I am not naive enough to think every situation can be fixed or person changed but as human beings we do have some obligation to others...

And I eventually moved myself.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
18. Agreed! It's never simple.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:47 AM
Aug 2012

It took me 18 months to finally be able to move out of there. But it was worth the trouble.

Kaleva

(36,355 posts)
19. Don't tell anyone you called 911
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:48 AM
Aug 2012

In domestic fights, the couple together sometimes turn on the police and I've read about cases where the woman attacked the police after they had handcuffed the husband or boyfriend and were taking him away and so the woman ends up being arrested herself.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
17. So glad you called 911!!
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:40 AM
Aug 2012

too many people don't, they don't want to get involved as if domestic abuse is "dirty laundry." It's always sad when you hear of a murder or vicious assault, and the neighbors heard it and did nothing.

Good for you.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
20. re re update
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:04 AM
Aug 2012

she's here.The police are here too.This is nuts.She is pressing charges from what I gather.He chocked her i guess...still trying to figure this out They have her outside talking...she IS GOING TO press charges.

Going to be a long night

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