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OK, how can the Dems stop or even slow down the SCOTUS nomination? (Original Post) trof Jun 2018 OP
Can we beg Kennedy to wait 6 months? ecstatic Jun 2018 #1
His last day is July 31. nt Nay Jun 2018 #5
We can beg all we want. But why do you think that would work? onenote Jun 2018 #12
Find a skeleton in nominee's closet FBaggins Jun 2018 #2
That was my first thought. But... progressoid Jun 2018 #10
We've been touring Trump's closets piled with skeletons for years. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #16
Even with overwhelming proof, I bet most Trumpers would think it's fake news. progressoid Jun 2018 #17
Unless the nominee is a real asscarrot that Collins and Murkowski couldn't vote for... Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #3
Show a little support for Jeanine Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #4
Democrats should expand the court when they regain power dalton99a Jun 2018 #6
+1, by 6 seats and then make a ... LAW... that changing the USSC takes 60 votes in senate uponit7771 Jun 2018 #7
Exactly. dalton99a Jun 2018 #9
I understand increasing the court's membership. But what is the point the law you propose? onenote Jun 2018 #13
If we ever get 2/3 we should absolutely play Republican rules for a while. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #20
What do you think it would take? FBaggins Jun 2018 #11
Yep and that should be part of the message of Democrats going forward standingtall Jun 2018 #14
I think you're missing a critical point FBaggins Jun 2018 #18
They will probably do it any way standingtall Jun 2018 #24
There is no way fallout87 Jun 2018 #8
No unanimous consent on anything. Tatiana Jun 2018 #15
We're already doing that FBaggins Jun 2018 #19
Flake Corker... lame54 Jun 2018 #21
I think the best we can hope for is a couple Republican senators Flaleftist Jun 2018 #22
If dems don't put up a fight... lame54 Jun 2018 #23

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
1. Can we beg Kennedy to wait 6 months?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jun 2018

Or do the russians have something on him? He's been siding with the rethugs lately....

onenote

(42,609 posts)
12. We can beg all we want. But why do you think that would work?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:34 PM
Jun 2018

He's retiring as of July 31 so that the Court can start it's October term with its full membership (and thus avoid having some cases heard by only 8 Justices). It's the way it's been done by most retiring Justices in recent memory (except when they retire due to health reasons).

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
2. Find a skeleton in nominee's closet
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jun 2018

Better be a big one.

Drop it on him during the confirmation hearing.

progressoid

(49,952 posts)
10. That was my first thought. But...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

The standard is so low today. I wonder what it would take for the GOP to turn on a nominee.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. We've been touring Trump's closets piled with skeletons for years.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jun 2018

Doesn't seem to help much.

However, jails full of babies seem to be having some effect. Let people know that all those babies are endangered by SCOTUS right-wingers. I believe that's literally true.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. Unless the nominee is a real asscarrot that Collins and Murkowski couldn't vote for...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:52 PM
Jun 2018

...no, not much else we can do.

*What if* Trump nominates Judge Jeanne Pirro or Judge Judy or even Judge Reinhold? It's certainly in the realm of possibilities!

Freethinker65

(10,001 posts)
4. Show a little support for Jeanine
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jun 2018

Just enough to make Trump nominate her and for the GOP to have to support her. Get her seated.

See her make a mockery of the court by running to FoxNews when she can with privileged information. She might get bored. Who knows how the other justices will react and treat her.

dalton99a

(81,406 posts)
6. Democrats should expand the court when they regain power
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jun 2018

Get rid of the filibuster and push everything through on a simple majority. Ignore the Republicans. Fuck them. It's the only way to repair the damage and save our country.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
7. +1, by 6 seats and then make a ... LAW... that changing the USSC takes 60 votes in senate
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jun 2018

... and 2/3rd's in house.

Fuck em, McConnell isn't being civil why should we !?!?

onenote

(42,609 posts)
13. I understand increasing the court's membership. But what is the point the law you propose?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jun 2018

If you assume that the Repubs will never again have a bare majority in both Houses (and control the WH), you don't need a law making it harder to change the number of justices. And if you assume that at some point the Repubs will have a majority in both houses and control the WH, there is nothing that would stop them from repealing the law you just described. Laws can be passed. And laws can be repealed.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. If we ever get 2/3 we should absolutely play Republican rules for a while.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jun 2018

And their current behavior may just be making that possible.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
11. What do you think it would take?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:06 PM
Jun 2018

Majority in the House and Senate... get rid of the legislative filibuster... plus the WH?

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
14. Yep and that should be part of the message of Democrats going forward
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018

that if we get back the house,Senate and White house we will stack the supreme court.
The legislative filibuster is only hanging on by a thread now any way with republicans trying to do everything through reconciliation and Trumps repeated calls for its repeal. Probably the only reason why republicans haven't repealed it already is they are afraid if Democrats ever take back the houses they will do exactly what I'm talking. So if we take back the Government we should repeal the legislative filibuster and then repeal the 1860s law that limits the number of supreme court justices and go right for the jugular.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
18. I think you're missing a critical point
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jun 2018

Republicans have those things now.

How would you feel if they did it?

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
24. They will probably do it any way
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jun 2018

and the only way to correct it is to fight fire with fire. I know what republicans are doing now and I feel pretty shitty about it. For the sake of justice Democrats are going to have to do this. We cannot just sit back allow republicans to use procedures to pack the court in their favor to hoard power and to facilitate injustices when they are the minority in terms of the citizens.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
8. There is no way
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jun 2018

No way to stop the confirmation.....



I'm interested in these three right now:
Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Joe Manchin of West Virginia. They all voted for Gorsuch because they are in very vulnerable seats.

What is better, for the to vote for the nominee and keep their seat? Or to vote against and lose it?

This....seriously....sucks.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
22. I think the best we can hope for is a couple Republican senators
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jun 2018

to insist on a nominee that is comparable to Kennedy. I'm not going to hold my breath.

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