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Miles Archer

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Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:03 AM Jun 2018

Susan Collins: It was a mistake not to consider Garland, would be a mistake for Democrats to do same

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Susan Collins saying it was a mistake not to consider Garland and that it would be a mistake for Democrats to do same to Trump's next nominee tells you everything you need to know about how the GOP gets away with breaking all the rules.

4:03 AM - 28 Jun 2018


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Susan Collins: It was a mistake not to consider Garland, would be a mistake for Democrats to do same (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2018 OP
STFU Iliyah Jun 2018 #1
there ya go Afromania Jun 2018 #10
Yes. Right. What the hell does that even mean? brush Jun 2018 #48
Yep. She's not a defender of women's rights! She's a GOP team player-fully embracing Putin's America TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #53
hell with her SummerSnow Jun 2018 #2
Oh right, who needs her vote? elleng Jun 2018 #6
George Lakoff tells how conservatives use language to dominate politics. elleng Jun 2018 #3
excellent article FM123 Jun 2018 #11
Thanks, FM. elleng Jun 2018 #17
I keep saying it to an empty room. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #36
Yes, or something like that. elleng Jun 2018 #37
Damn it this is frustrating. Dems need help with language. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #60
FU, Susan. Just FU Sanity Claws Jun 2018 #4
LOL. Is there anyone who still hasn't caught onto this snake and her act? nt Maven Jun 2018 #5
Depends on you point of view Ms Collins. From where I sit we need to pull out all the stops to bloc wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #7
There's our answer RandySF Jun 2018 #8
So this is how they roll! Hypocrites. FM123 Jun 2018 #9
David Corn's response to the tweet Miles Archer Jun 2018 #14
This is one of those instances where two wrongs would make a right. LonePirate Jun 2018 #12
FUCK YOU SUSAN COLLINS!..../NT sdfernando Jun 2018 #13
Fuck her and her false equivalency bullshit. Efilroft Sul Jun 2018 #15
No I disagree duforsure Jun 2018 #16
Polite people know: two wrongs don't make a right. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #18
Her voters need to speak up in force! Nt spooky3 Jun 2018 #19
Trump's pick will NOT be based on competence, intelligence, or knowledge of the Constitution. world wide wally Jun 2018 #20
These vermin have no shame Generic Other Jun 2018 #21
It Looks Like Susan Collins Leith Jun 2018 #22
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind mythology Jun 2018 #23
Great; where are these restrictions? Non-existent right now? gratuitous Jun 2018 #44
Raise your hand if you're surprised by this twit's response or fellow weasel Flake's. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #24
Collins is complicit. n/t Orsino Jun 2018 #25
Sen. Collins, two years ago: sl8 Jun 2018 #26
The ultimate IOKIYAR exboyfil Jun 2018 #27
See the post above yours emulatorloo Jun 2018 #58
I wish I lived in Maine janterry Jun 2018 #28
This should lsewpershad Jun 2018 #29
well susan, we can live with our mistake the same way you are. spanone Jun 2018 #30
Then she should ask Trump to nominate Merrick Garland dansolo Jun 2018 #31
Face it this is no longer politics. gordianot Jun 2018 #32
Susan Collins: Tell Trump to nominate Garland Zambero Jun 2018 #33
+MILLIONS! Cha Jun 2018 #42
Two wrongs don't make a right. Tatiana Jun 2018 #34
I like the way you put that, Tatiana Cha Jun 2018 #43
As a Mainer, I'm thoroughly disgusted. Shanti Mama Jun 2018 #35
Thank You, Shanti Mama.. and Cha Jun 2018 #41
".. a mistake.. " BULLSHIT.. it was Cha Jun 2018 #38
Piss off Susan. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #39
Yea well fk off Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #40
Too late dummy. kacekwl Jun 2018 #45
If he nominates Garland, then we'll consider him. Crunchy Frog Jun 2018 #46
This is why I want us to STFU about this Civility issue already - WE FIGHT!!!! tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #47
"Mistake"? ego_nation Jun 2018 #49
Maybe if you're talking about a city council seat. moondust Jun 2018 #50
Just because we beat you up is no excuse for you to defend yourself. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #51
She can F right off. Seriously JDC Jun 2018 #52
Perfectly triangulated stance that protects her no matter what happens... Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #54
Susan is still waiting for that vote to save health care that Mitch promised her. Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #55
"We weren't nice about Garland Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #56
Well, Susan, I guess you should just learn to live with your mistakes and their consequences onenote Jun 2018 #57
For me, but not for thee shanti Jun 2018 #59

brush

(53,771 posts)
48. Yes. Right. What the hell does that even mean?
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jun 2018

I'm so tired of her phony "moderate" act. She falls in line with the rest of the repugs whenever she's told that that they don't have enough votes to cover her fake moderateness.

TheBlackAdder

(28,184 posts)
53. Yep. She's not a defender of women's rights! She's a GOP team player-fully embracing Putin's America
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jun 2018

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
60. Damn it this is frustrating. Dems need help with language.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jun 2018

Prime examples for me are Adam Schiff and Richard Blumenthal. They torture English to avoid saying anything too rude.

Please people, BE RUDE!

 

wasupaloopa

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7. Depends on you point of view Ms Collins. From where I sit we need to pull out all the stops to bloc
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jun 2018

trump nominees.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. David Corn's response to the tweet
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jun 2018
David Corn
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David Corn Retweeted Jonathan Cohn
Susan Collins seems to be chairing the Tsk Tsk Caucus. Or maybe it's co-chaired by Jeff Flake.


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
16. No I disagree
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jun 2018

She is the mistake, and more excuses from a pro russian putin backing treasonous corrupt xxxxx.

world wide wally

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20. Trump's pick will NOT be based on competence, intelligence, or knowledge of the Constitution.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jun 2018

Strictly partisan loyalty will be all that matters.

Generic Other

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21. These vermin have no shame
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jun 2018

I hate to treat any class of people as subhuman, but I do not know how else to view these escaped GOP lab rats.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
22. It Looks Like Susan Collins
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jun 2018

wants to be the subject of a feature story on Full Frontal with Samantha Bee.

I hope she is.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
23. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jun 2018

The way out of a descending cycle isn't to continue it.

The best longer term solution is to create more legal restrictions. If instead of the undefined advise and consent on judicial nominees, the law was vote on the nominee x number of days after the nomination is made the Republicans would've had to deal with Garland. Instead of an undefined emoluments clause, we spelled it out. Etc.

gratuitous

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44. Great; where are these restrictions? Non-existent right now?
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jun 2018

Are they in the works? Who is putting this together right now in time for the next Supreme Court nominee or any pending claims that the president is in violation of the Emoluments Clause?

Because if those restrictions aren't in place, right now and iron-clad, we have to work with the system that exists now. It would be lovely to have anti-gravity brakes that will stop a car after it's plunged off a cliff, but since those aren't a thing, we should probably hit the brakes now, on this side of the precipice, though it may already be too late for that.

sl8

(13,748 posts)
26. Sen. Collins, two years ago:
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:28 AM
Jun 2018

From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-garland-idUSKCN0X228I

Republican Collins' call for Garland hearings spurned
Richard Cowan
APRIL 5, 2016 / 1:29 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A moderate Republican senator heaped praise on President Barack Obama’s U.S. Supreme Court nominee on Tuesday, bucking Senate Republican leaders who promptly dismissed her call for confirmation hearings.

Susan Collins of Maine became only the second Republican senator to meet with Merrick Garland since Obama nominated the centrist appellate judge last month to fill the court vacancy left by the Feb. 13 death of Justice Antonin Scalia.

The hourlong meeting came as Republican senators face mounting pressure from conservative activists to go along with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s plan to block any nominee chosen by Obama.

“The meeting left me more convinced than ever that the process should proceed. The next step, in my view, should be public hearings before the Judiciary Committee,” Collins told reporters.

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More at link.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
27. The ultimate IOKIYAR
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jun 2018

What was her stated position during the Garland fiasco? Did she fight for it and call out her party?

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
28. I wish I lived in Maine
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jun 2018

so I could not vote for her. As it is, all I can do is reflect on how feckless I think her 'centrist' voice really is.

Useless.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
32. Face it this is no longer politics.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jun 2018

The entire Republican Party desires to tear up the Constitution or commit outright treason. This is the line I use when Republican politicians ring my door bell and they keep coming.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
34. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:37 AM
Jun 2018

But it makes us even and I will take that.

A hearty F U to Collins, that mealymouthed sellout.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
35. As a Mainer, I'm thoroughly disgusted.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

I already wrote to her this morning before I read this.
Will write and call every single day, speaking for a family of three voters. We are now one-issue voters and she will hear that loud and clear.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
38. ".. a mistake.. " BULLSHIT.. it was
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jun 2018

premeditated murder.

And what's good for your goose is better for us..

Check out this, Twit..


And, not just God..



Oh and..



tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
47. This is why I want us to STFU about this Civility issue already - WE FIGHT!!!!
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

WE fight - Get used to it- Kick em out of restaurants, get in their faces. Protest, March. Sit ins. Phone Calls. And yes Vote. Alll of it. This is what fighting looks like. Stall. These folks don't play nice. Why the hell are we talking about playing nice? Our democracy is at stake. We are talking about issues that are going to affect generations. Our country is changing under these scumbags.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
50. Maybe if you're talking about a city council seat.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jun 2018

Something with very limited ramifications.

A lifetime appointment to the SC is not something with very limited ramifications. Sen. Collins should know better.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
56. "We weren't nice about Garland
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jun 2018

but don't be mean to us."


Yeah, whatever. If she truly regretted what happened with Garland, she'd help us here.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
57. Well, Susan, I guess you should just learn to live with your mistakes and their consequences
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:08 PM
Jun 2018

Rather than pretend that what is sauce for the goose shouldn't be sauce for the gander.

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