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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRobert Reich's 7 rules for resistance. #4 is especially important for DU
http://robertreich.org/post/175340484790Fourth, dont succumb to divisive incrimination over who lost the 2016 election (Hillary loyalists, Bernie supporters, Jill Stein voters, etc.). This will get us nowhere. We must be united.
Finally, know that this fight will be long and hard. It will require our patience, our courage, and our resolve. The stakes could not be higher.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)Just win elections
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)It is a rare day when I do not see yet another attempt to start a food fight based on divisive incrimination.
"We must indeed all hang together , or assuredly we shall all hang separately." Ben Franklin
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)"Finally, know that this fight will be long and hard. It will require our patience, our courage, and our resolve. The stakes could not be higher."
He speaks words of wisdom!
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Mobilize and organize others to do so. Contact friends and relations in red states, and urge them to do the same."
Urge them to do the same? Not to be cynical but there is no way in hell my trumper friends/relatives will be swayed to change their votes based on logic/reasoning offered by myself or even Jesus Christ himself. Theirs is a psychological/emotional disorder, my friends. It's gonna take fucking rehab, not logic.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,412 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)were sufficiently chagrined by the consequences of their idiocy.
Since neither of those is true, its a mistake.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)build a better future w/ what's to come...we truly don't know who is going to run, either for state or fed offices, but a better future beckons all of us, all of us...
elmac
(4,642 posts)know that we may be powerless to fight the fascists as long as we keep taking the high road or try to get along. We need to declare war on those fascist pigs.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)and anyone else who took the "high road" and didn't vote for Hillary and refuse to admit their stupid mistake.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)just STFU about it. We've all heard it. It does NOTHING for us, except demotivate and deflate us -- even those of us who DID vote for Hillary.
Yeah, screw them, but for God's sake go on to other things.
Who the hell do you expect them to "admit their stupid mistake" to -- YOU??? So how do you know the vast majority of those who didn't vote for Hillary haven't recanted?
It's just such a losing thing to waste energy on. MOVE ON.
Here's a little story for you:
Two Buddhist monks who'd taken vows of silence and to never have anything to do with women were on a journey when they encountered a woman who needed to cross the river but wasn't able to do so on her own. One of the monks picked her up, threw her across his shoulder and got them both to the other side. They all went on their business.
Miles later, the other monk can no longer hold it in and breaks his silence to chastise his travelling companion about his broken vow. The chastised monk responds: "Whose vow has been broken worse? I put that woman down back at the river; you're still carrying her."
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And here's a maxim for you: Hanging on to hatred, resentment and anger are like drinking poison and expecting the other person to get sick.
scipan
(2,341 posts)marble falls
(57,077 posts)post. You don't have a fucking clue about what I post. Where did you derive your screaming fit from? From nothing I've written that you've read.
Shame on you. Save your incivility for the GOP. Read my post again, you certainly responded to an awful lot that wasn't there.
And maybe a mea culpa?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)and anyone else who took the "high road" and didn't vote for Hillary and refuse to admit their stupid mistake.
And stand by every word.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Hillary DIDN'T lose. We got taken. In a BUNCH of different ways. Point your anger in those directions:
Ron Baiman (Ph. D.): U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies.... (Affadavit)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210343625
Updated, Expanded and Corrected Affidavit Version: U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies Fit Chronic Republican Vote Count Rigging, not Random Statistical, Patterns https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319205877_Updated_Expanded_and_Corrected_Affidavit_Version_US_2016_Unadjusted_Exit_Poll_Discrepancies_Fit_Chronic_Republican_Vote_-_Count_Rigging_not_Random_Statistical_Patterns
Shy Voters Probably Arent Why The Polls Missed Trump
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/shy-voters-probably-arent-why-the-polls-missed-trump/
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Hillary didn't lose because she was less POPULAR. She lost because of James Comey's letters and because of some even more important factors -- more important because they're not going away. They will be used against us in every election going forward, unless we can stop them.
The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.
We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691
Here is how they stole the election, well this and KGB operatives V Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/
23:00 6/25/2017
PALMER: Rigged election: Donald Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-donald-trump-won-every-surprise-swing-state-by-the-same-1-margin/118/
The most commonly posited explanation of Donald Trumps shocking election victory was that every professional pollster in the nation despite each working independently and using differing methodologies somehow managed to overlook the same pockets of Trump voters in these states. If such pockets did exist, they would have existed in varying sizes in each of the four states, thus resulting in different sized wins in each.
Ask any statistician and theyll tell you that a reasonable distribution of the results would have been Trump winning one of the states by one percent, won one of them by perhaps three percent, won one of them by two percent, lost one of them by one percent, or something along those lines. But instead the voting tallies looked startlingly different from any natural distribution. In fact they looked startlingly the same.
According to the New York Times, the voting results broke down like this: Trump won Florida by just over one percent of the vote. He also won Pennsylvania by just over one percent. He won Michigan by just under one percent. And he won Wisconsin by precisely one percent. Thats not how numbers tend to work in the real world.
On its own, this kind of suspiciously consistent numerical dispersion across the four states that decided the election would be something that could be written off as a mere fluke. But when you put it within the context of the numerous other ways in which the voting tallies make no mathematical sense, it points to the numbers having been rigged or altered.
MikeFarb @mikefarb1
#unhackthevote
Did Trump win Michigan? I don' think so.
Won by 10,704 but wait
75,355 Ballots Thrown Out
87 Machines Broke Down in Detrioit
Link to tweet
marble falls
(57,077 posts)hate anyone. But if you think you'll troll me, think again.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)She was quick to take the blame like a good Dem. Later facts showed a different story.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)Thank you.