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OhNo-Really

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Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:46 PM Jul 2018

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) OhNo-Really Jul 2018 OP
this "woman" undoubtedly will be a front-runner because he thinks Dems won't hlthe2b Jul 2018 #1
I'm selling Handmaiden costumes for $1,200 silk, made by Asian toddlers OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #9
Bunch of freaks! dhol82 Jul 2018 #2
Holy shit. Squeaky Fromme must not be available. Vinca Jul 2018 #3
Already engaged in another project OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #8
This isn't ANY form of Catholicism. She can call herself whatever she wants, pnwmom Jul 2018 #4
What I am hearing is an insulted Catholic. OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #7
You are hearing someone who acknowledges that the Catholic Church pnwmom Jul 2018 #10
Yet, they go to Rome. They want the association with the Church OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #12
According to their website, they are an ecumenical group. pnwmom Jul 2018 #14
Here is reason #2 The author left Judge Barrets religious affiliation OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #15
There's a born again sucker every minute. yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2018 #5
that picture. omgosh OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #6
So, she will be getting her instructions from her husband who Ilsa Jul 2018 #11
OR, if she needs a submissive tune up, an UNTRAINED HANDMAID, will be called i . OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #13
I just started that book today. tavernier Jul 2018 #16
Handmaidens Tale? OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #17
Haven't seen it. tavernier Jul 2018 #18
I think the words leud and lacivious and cruel best describe the story line OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #20
An article in Slate said the group took the term "handmaids" from a bible verse octoberlib Jul 2018 #19
Men are called Heads 🙄 OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #21

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
1. this "woman" undoubtedly will be a front-runner because he thinks Dems won't
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:50 PM
Jul 2018

fight against a woman. We need to be prepared to hit the phones HARD if she is the selection.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
9. I'm selling Handmaiden costumes for $1,200 silk, made by Asian toddlers
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jul 2018

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. Bunch of freaks!
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jul 2018

Feinstein was kind during this woman’s judicial hearing.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
3. Holy shit. Squeaky Fromme must not be available.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
8. Already engaged in another project
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jul 2018

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
4. This isn't ANY form of Catholicism. She can call herself whatever she wants,
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jul 2018

but People of Praise isn't Catholic dogma, anymore than Mel Gibson's personal offshoot church is.


OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
7. What I am hearing is an insulted Catholic.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jul 2018

I understand what you mean; however, the POP think of themselves as more enlightened

I was raised Catholic and believe you me, my mom ruled our roost.

I have given these extremist groups a great deal of thought.

Imho, the self-designated leaders are jeolous of God. They want the loyalty, control. and adherence instead of the God they pretend to represent.

This childish, selfish need to be " more special" to God and others than that unworthy guy down the street is a dangerous tendency. And. the sheep that he convinces to follow his "new, better" path also want to feel special and smart and special.

We are in such a fubarred state today.

NO WAY IN HEAVEN OR HELL can a religious zealot assume power over governance.

Between the religious zealots, trumpinators, and the Aryan Brotherhood types, MS-13 is an almost invisible mosquito.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. You are hearing someone who acknowledges that the Catholic Church
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

has its flaws, but it also has a particular set of dogma.

People of Praise has its own. Just because she or anyone else calls themselves Catholic ,or were raised Catholic, doesn't mean that People of Praise has anything to do with the official Catholic church.

I agree with your characterization of these religious zealots.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
12. Yet, they go to Rome. They want the association with the Church
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:51 PM
Jul 2018

but the freedom to rule their own little fiefdoms under the guise of the church. Disguised apostates in a sense. No wonder people are confused. These parasites feed off of parishners fears, insecurities, and doctrinal ignorance who seem eager to put their hand into the hand of man instead of into the hand of the God they seek to serve.

It's a cult or, at the very least, very cultish.

A person graced with full faith in God, His Plan, and directives to Love All doesn't really need an organized religion, imo, although fellowship can be wonderful and group can do a lot of good.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
14. According to their website, they are an ecumenical group.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jul 2018
https://peopleofpraise.org/about/who-we-are/

We are an ecumenical, charismatic, covenant community. Our model and inspiration is the first Christian community, a small band of disciples who “were of one heart and soul” and “held all things in common.” (Acts 4:33, 2:44). We can be difficult for the public and the press to understand. In truth, we are a community that defies categories.

Take our ecumenism. A majority of People of Praise members are Catholic, and yet the People of Praise is not a Catholic group. We aim to be a witness to the unity Jesus desires for all his followers. Our membership includes not only Catholics but Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Pentecostals and nondenominational Christians. What we share is a common baptism, a commitment to love one another and our teachings, which we hold in common.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
15. Here is reason #2 The author left Judge Barrets religious affiliation
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:08 PM
Jul 2018

From the article:

2. At this time (early 1980s) I was working for the conference department of the POP's outreach, Charismatic Renewal Services (CRS). Since we were into renewal of the Church, I thought I ought to read the Documents of Vatican II.

There, in Lumen Gentium, I read that the Eucharist is the source and sign of unity in the Body of Christ. That was disconcerting, because in the POP the Eucharist played no role. So how could we have a covenanted unity without the sacrament of unity? It was wrong.

Also, if Christ comes to us in the sacraments through the ordained ministry of priests, how could our lay leaders fulfill the role of pastors?

Our community order and spirituality did not fit with the vision presented in Lumen Gentium and other Council documents.

Then in 1984 CRS sent us to Rome for three months for me to work on a Worldwide Priests' Retreat.

There I simply fell in love again with the Catholic Church. Love for the Church was important to our being free from covenant community.



So in the early 1980s, People of Praise organization was running retreats for Priests, according to the writer.

One could imagine such close ties would lead investigaors looking for a unique spiritual home to see POP and Catholic Rome as one in the same. Controlling men must love this patriarchal lifestyle.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
5. There's a born again sucker every minute.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jul 2018

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
6. that picture. omgosh
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:21 PM
Jul 2018

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
11. So, she will be getting her instructions from her husband who
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:42 PM
Jul 2018

gets them from some unelected, unselected, unvetted, ignoramus men's leader!

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
13. OR, if she needs a submissive tune up, an UNTRAINED HANDMAID, will be called i .
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:54 PM
Jul 2018

Good grief, and this all sounds normal to the followers. Mind boggling really

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
16. I just started that book today.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jul 2018

So many scary similarities to what’s happening today.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
17. Handmaidens Tale?
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 04:38 AM
Jul 2018

I was s repulsed by the tv series I couldn't watch more the 2 episodes

A seriously disgusting concept

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
18. Haven't seen it.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 06:58 AM
Jul 2018

I just started the audio book. She talks about her child being taken from her which gave me a cold chill with the parallels occurring today. But thanks for a the heads up. I may prefer to skip the tv series.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
20. I think the words leud and lacivious and cruel best describe the story line
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:16 AM
Jul 2018

It makes Stepford Wives look like Leave it to Beaver rofl

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
19. An article in Slate said the group took the term "handmaids" from a bible verse
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:07 AM
Jul 2018

about Mary , years before the Handmaids' Tale came out. The group no longer uses the term ,changed it to Women's Leader or something. They're still creepy, though.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
21. Men are called Heads 🙄
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jul 2018
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