Lawyers for Ohio State contradict Jim Jordan's claim he's not been contacted

[NY_20th]

Congressman Jim Jordan denied hearing about Dr. Richard Strauss’ alleged sexual abuse while Jordan was assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University.

U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan never witnessed abuse by the Ohio State University wrestling team’s doctor and he hasn’t been contacted by anyone investigating possible incidents that occurred while he was an assistant coach two decades ago, the Urbana Republican’s spokesman said Tuesday.

However, lawyers hired by OSU to probe the allegations said Jordan was contacted — both by phone and email — to request an interview, but he never responded.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180703/lawyers-for-ohio-state-contradict-jim-jordans-claim-hes-not-been-contacted

[rurallib]

1. why would they expect anything but lies from Jordon?

[Renew Deal]

2. Release the emails

That would probably be a wrap for him

[FakeNoose]

3. They need to prove that Jordan knew about this 20+ years ago

Somewhere (hopefully nearby in Ohio) some young men should come forward and tell what happened. Did they go to Jordan and did he ignore them, or refuse to help them? That's what would make the difference in this case.

Once they have that, it won't matter what Jordan says now.

Just sayin'

[yardwork]

6. People have already come forward.

At least one former member of the wrestling team has talked publicly about telling Jordan, at the time, and being brushed off.

That's why lawyers for OSU have been trying to talk to Jordan.

It's interesting that he would tell such a blatant and easily proven lie. I guess he just lies reflexively.

[mr_lebowski]

9. Depends how you define 'easily proven' ...

Jordan could simply turn around and say 'the student is mistaken/confused/not recalling correctly, must've been a different person', and how does the student 'prove' that he really DID tell Jordan?

[yardwork]

12. You've misunderstood my post. The lie I'm talking about is about the lawyers.

Jordan stated that nobody has tried to contact him about this lawsuit. OSU lawyers state that they called and emailed him in the past months.

If the lawyers contacted Jordan, I'm sure that they have a paper trail. His statement that nobody has reached out to him about this can be proven false quite easily.

[mr_lebowski]

13. Ah, GOT IT ... yeah, sry. 100% correct on that one.

No wonder he's all about defending the Tangeranus ... both compulsive liars.

[mr_lebowski]

7. Too bad he's not immediately going anywhere unless House GOP decides he's too much of a liability

Or the voters in his district in November decide he's beyond redemption and vote him out.

I trust NEITHER to do the right thing, quite frankly.

The only way I believe something would surely 'happen' is if there were a number of students who came forward and said Jordan told them like 'you'll just shut up about it if you wanna stay on the team' or 'just go along with it, he's harmless' or something like that.

In that case, I don't think even the snakes in the House GOP would be able to just blow it off.

BTW, wonder how they know already that he groped young men from 14 different OSU sports ... seems that would suggest there's a pretty serious and late-stage investigation that's been going on. This would also mean there's probably a lot of OSU admins/coaches (and former ones) who's necks are going to be on the line for this one.

I don't know if this is a criminal investigation but some people are almost certain to be losing their jobs over this ... I wonder if any of them have testified to investigators that they have reason to believe Jordan was aware of it i.e. it's not only coming from alleged victims but his colleagues as well. Wonder if it's not that he was emailed and telephoned just because 'he was there at the time' but because investigators specifically believe that he would have information.

[FakeNoose]

10. Yes this is big and heads will roll

I'm in PA and we're still seeing repercussions from the Jerry Sandusky scandal that's been rocking for over 10 years now. There is ample evidence at Penn State that multiple admin officials tried to save their jobs by looking the other way. In this OSU case it's safe to assume that Jim Jordan did the same, until he can prove otherwise.

I don't know any of the particulars of this case, but it sounds like Jordan was a young coach with not enough authority to fire a wrong-doer who was also his boss. That's no excuse! He still could have been a whistle-blower, he still could have gone to the administration and told what he knew. It really sounds like he didn't do shit. Just like JoePa.

[mr_lebowski]

11. Yup. What's perhaps handy as well is he's already locked into what is almost surely ... lies ...

About what he knew and when.

He MIGHT'VE been able to weasel out of it by saying 'one or students came to me saying they felt they were touched inappropriately and I informed them that I lacked the authority to do anything myself, but that they should take their concerns directly to the School Administration immediately, and gave them the name of whom to speak with ... ' or something along those lines.

Can't even pull THAT shit now, already cast your die there bucko! Your instant impulse to LIE probably has f***ed you, Slippin' Jimmy.

[csziggy]

14. An assistant coach is probably a mandatory reporter

That is, if there is a report of sexual abuse, no matter how unsupported by evidence, an assistant coach is required by law to report it to authorities. And, as indicated in the Penn State case, "authorities" are not just the coach's higher ups, it means police.

This sounds far too similar to the Penn State case - abuse was alleged to a lower level coach (who was a mandated reporter) and instead of going to the police ever, it was simply passed on to other people in the athletic department - and it happened repeatedly with nothing done to stop the abuser.

[FakeNoose]

16. There's one big difference in the Sandusky case

Sandusky's victims were really young - some of them were 10 or younger - and they were raped in the most horrible way. These OSU young men were somewhat older and (maybe) wiser. A defense attorney could say that they were "consenting" and I'm not saying that the boys did consent. I'm saying that good defense attorneys can sometimes turn it around and make a jury question it.

However if there's proof that some of the OSU boys went to a coach or teacher (like Jim Jordan) and nothing happened, then you have a different story. I think that's what this is becoming now. Let's hope they get to the bottom of this. I really don't believe politics should enter into it. It's just wrong no matter who did it.

[NY_20th]

17. The abuser is deceased,

so there will not be a trial. The investigation is about the coverup of the abuse.

The abuser may have examined high school students as well.

A law firm looking into the case is also investigating whether Strauss examined high school students, the university said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/03/us/ohio-state-sexual-misconduct-investigation/index.html

[Blue_true]

15. If he is lying so hard, one has to wonder why.

If it is just he was told and did nothing, he could say that he was told and was not sure that the accusations were credible and didn't know what else he could do. He may be lying because he was somehow involved. That Doctor assaulted a lot of men on that campus, look like the number in into the low thousands.

[mr_lebowski]

4. I really hate when writers friggin' phrase things like this ...

U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan never witnessed abuse by the Ohio State University wrestling team’s doctor and he hasn’t been contacted by anyone investigating possible incidents that occurred while he was an assistant coach two decades ago, the Urbana Republican’s spokesman said Tuesday.

It's like they're purposefully trying to a give an impatient reader (someone who's only going to read a couple lines and move on) the wrong idea.

This should be written like this:

On Tuesday, a representative for U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan alleged "Congressman Jordan never witnessed abuse by the Ohio State University wrestling team’s doctor and he hasn’t been contacted by anyone investigating possible incidents that occurred while he was an assistant coach two decades ago."

[FakeNoose]

8. Agreed

It's misleading and badly written.

[Raster]

5. Jim. Jordan. Is. A. Liar. ...

... He is also a Republican, but I repeat myself.

[SamKnause]

18. Jim Jordan is a Republican, a Tea Party Republican.

Republicans are EVIL FUCKING LIARS !!!!!!

[spanone]

19. digging your own grave, jimmy boy

[Gothmog]

20. Betty Bowers-It's like Pizzagate. Only true. And bigger. And Republican.

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