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Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:21 AM Jul 2018

How about this for a trade off...

45 seems to be into making deals. Let's trade funding for the wall for the Supreme Court pick. We can even go with Garland. If 45 nominates Garland, Dems will pass wall funding.

I know it's not ideal but if we can win in 2020, we can then stop the wall. If we can't win in 2020, Ginsberg's seat will likely come open during the term, at some point, so we'll be toast either way.

As unappealing as it is, I think it is worth doing.

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How about this for a trade off... (Original Post) Buckeyeblue Jul 2018 OP
This petulant man-baby doesn't know how to do deals. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #1
But we can't stop the nominee Buckeyeblue Jul 2018 #2
The only thing that will stop a pick... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #4
you can't trust a con man spanone Jul 2018 #3
He doesn't want to build a wall. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2018 #5
Hell no. No fucking wall. We are not the Soviet Union with their iron curtain. brush Jul 2018 #6
Let's trade 45 to those rhino poaching man-eating lions, Corgigal Jul 2018 #7
This guy is not a fair negotiator. At all. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #8

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. This petulant man-baby doesn't know how to do deals.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:30 AM
Jul 2018

His word is meaningless.

He is a pathological liar.

We shouldn't be giving him the time of day. A wall? He promised Mexico would pay for it. That is the only deal he should have.

And we know what Mexico said.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
2. But we can't stop the nominee
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:42 AM
Jul 2018

So to me the wall is just a symbol--albeit a crappy one. A supreme court justice has the ability to impact millions. I would take the trade off if I could get it.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. The only thing that will stop a pick...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:51 AM
Jul 2018

is a an R in the senate flipping. With McCain out (McCain flipped on the ACA repeal vote, you know) it's 50-49 split.

One R flips, it's 50-49 for the D's, and we start over again. This could get us to November and beyond.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
5. He doesn't want to build a wall.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jul 2018

He wants to steal the wall-building money.

The United States doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.

No Deal!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
7. Let's trade 45 to those rhino poaching man-eating lions,
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018

while we open Yellowstone to any illegal immigrant lions who want to come over.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. This guy is not a fair negotiator. At all.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 10:09 AM
Jul 2018

He can't be negotiated with. We should keep giving the appearance of negotiating but our positions should always be something he would never go for and include nothing he wants.

I would take this legislation any day of the week.

Full amnesty for full funding of the border wall. There would be zero benchmarks in place. IOW, amnesty does not happen gradually as the wall is built or in total after a certain percentage.

The wall is bullshit and we haven't seem to have grasped how solid of a negotiating tool it is. Then again, that might be because elected Republicans don't really want it.

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