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I hate him, I hate him, I hate him, I hate him, I hate him so much. (Original Post) SamKnause Jul 2018 OP
What now? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #1
His insane rally in Montana yesterday. SamKnause Jul 2018 #3
Me too! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #9
Tell us how you really feel.... madaboutharry Jul 2018 #2
I FUCKING HATE HIM with the heat of 1000 suns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Jul 2018 #5
I hate him, I hate his followers, I utterly despise the Christian Taliban. Initech Jul 2018 #4
They are not going away. SamKnause Jul 2018 #7
Yes, the MAGA cult. Initech Jul 2018 #13
good idea bdamomma Jul 2018 #17
Send him a bucket of KFC. lpbk2713 Jul 2018 #6
That won't matter. SamKnause Jul 2018 #10
My hate for his supporters is damned near as fierce... hlthe2b Jul 2018 #8
I am an equal opportunity hater. SamKnause Jul 2018 #11
What's worse shanti Jul 2018 #16
My sister, brother-in-law, my niece, her husband and my great nephew support Trump. SamKnause Jul 2018 #25
Totally understand shanti Jul 2018 #45
With the heat of a thousand burning suns ... Grammy23 Jul 2018 #12
He Is Despicable colsohlibgal Jul 2018 #14
that seems to be bdamomma Jul 2018 #15
"... and where he goes won't follow, won't follow, won't follow." Mc Mike Jul 2018 #18
... SamKnause Jul 2018 #23
...to the zillionth power NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #19
I've thought the same thing. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #20
My conservative sister-in-law agrees with you. byronius Jul 2018 #21
That is some what encouraging. SamKnause Jul 2018 #22
That makes me feel a tiny, tiny bit better. Vinca Jul 2018 #24
And you know what else we have to do??? calimary Jul 2018 #43
I don't hate anyone - not even him vlyons Jul 2018 #26
I was for the first time in my life feeling hate. Doreen Jul 2018 #30
Hatred is a very intense negative emotion vlyons Jul 2018 #38
Self discipline is of the utmost importance at this time. Doreen Jul 2018 #40
/ Exactly This / vlyons Jul 2018 #44
Yes. Hatred simply eats at those who feel it. Tipperary Jul 2018 #31
When I see his ugly mug only one word pops in my mind. Alwaysna Jul 2018 #27
My cup runneth over with hate! dchill Jul 2018 #28
Best way to send that message is November 2018 still_one Jul 2018 #29
I vote in every election. SamKnause Jul 2018 #32
Sam, my comment was meant to be general, and definitely not directed at you still_one Jul 2018 #37
Cool. SamKnause Jul 2018 #41
Twitter Photo ... Donkees Jul 2018 #33
Love it. SamKnause Jul 2018 #34
Chuckling doesn't tear at your immune system ... stay strong :) Donkees Jul 2018 #36
I know very well that hatred is a negative emotion... First Speaker Jul 2018 #35
I have never hated anyone as much as I do this creature Bettie Jul 2018 #39
I, too, have never hated anyone as much as I do him meadowlark5 Jul 2018 #42
I know EXACTLY how you feel. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #46

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
3. His insane rally in Montana yesterday.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018

Going after naturalized citizens.

Asking for an extension to reunite children with their parents.

Going after enlisted men and women who were promised a path to citizenship.

I HATE HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Initech

(100,063 posts)
4. I hate him, I hate his followers, I utterly despise the Christian Taliban.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018

The sooner they go away the better.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
7. They are not going away.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jul 2018

They are going to destroy this country from the inside.

I HATE HIM and his cult !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Initech

(100,063 posts)
13. Yes, the MAGA cult.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jul 2018

Let's keep calling it what it is. They are a cult and a very dangerous one at that.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
17. good idea
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jul 2018

that seems to be the only thing he keeps on doing is repeating and repeating and his cult swear he is telling the truth. It is truly a CULT. Putin must love all this.

All I hear in my head is that song "Buddy do you have a dime" and I wasn't even born during the Depression.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
10. That won't matter.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jul 2018

His cult will take up the battlefield.

His cult has infested the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, school boards across this

country, places of worship, and they own their own media outlets.

I HATE HIM and his cult !!!!!!!!!!!!!

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
8. My hate for his supporters is damned near as fierce...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jul 2018

Don't tell me how we need to give benefit-of-the-doubt and never give up trying to turn them around. Those who listen to nothing but Faux News, Breitbart, Sinclair, RW Hate Radio will need a full fledged cult deprogrammer and even then we'll probably only succeed with a small percent.

Yes, I have likely Trump supporters who I have to interact with. We basically talk about NOTHING other than pets and weather.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
11. I am an equal opportunity hater.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jul 2018

I hate them equally.

Without them, there would be no Trump.

I HATE him and his cult.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
16. What's worse
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jul 2018

is having family members who are Magats. My oldest son and several cousins are, and it's the source of much angst! We barely speak, because they don't see what's wrong with him, and question how I can.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
25. My sister, brother-in-law, my niece, her husband and my great nephew support Trump.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jul 2018

I don't see them and do not want to see them.

I call my sister on her birthday.

She calls me on my birthday.

I was dreading it this year.

Things are not the same and never will be.

That's all the contact I have with any of them.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
45. Totally understand
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jul 2018

Both of my sibs are, and have always been, dems, so I have no beef with them. But my oldest son...that really kills me, as he wasn't raised like that! His father, who raised him during his teens (we're divorced) is a hardcore Xtian Magat. Ex is a one of those white boomers who life has passed by, without a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. Ignorant and watches only Faux. I can ignore him, but if I did so with my son, I'd never see my 3 grandchildren, so there's that. On July 4, he texted me a picture of him smooching a life-sized cutout of Chump. Nice son, huh?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
12. With the heat of a thousand burning suns ...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jul 2018

That might come close to the depths of my hatred for Bluto. (I usually refer to him as tRump but I remembered from childhood that Popeye’s thorn in the flesh was Bluto. So I decided to call tRump Bluto for a while.) Bluto was bloated, not the sharpest knife in the drawer and a very devious character, not above punching a guy when he is down. That pretty much describes tRump. On a good day. On his bad days, those are actually his better traits.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. He Is Despicable
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jul 2018

Shame on the middle of the road republicans who have kissed his ring. If we get past this to something much more normal he will eventually be looked at as our Mussolini or Hitler, pick your insane tyrant.

Now he is going after Poppy Bush republicans. He is scum and you will be judged harshly sooner or later.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
15. that seems to be
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jul 2018

the consensus of all of us here. We need to get our country back, I would really like to give him a taste of his own medicine.


A con man has played some of us, not us here on DU, but those who have been blinded by his BS need something to be done to them may be a heavy dose of FACTS and TRUTH.

I can't listen to him or even look at him, he is an ass.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
21. My conservative sister-in-law agrees with you.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

Voted for Bush twice. Married to an unrepentant conservative I've bumped heads with for years.

Both are now virulently anti-Trump.

At the 4th of July gathering I told her I'd gone to the immigration protest, and my sister-in-law went fully ballistic.

"I don't know why someone doesn't just kill him," she hissed through clenched teeth. "I hate him."

Holy cow. Can't tell you how odd it is to hear that from this woman. She's as angry as you are, and yet -- she helped build this Infernal Machine.

Gave me hope.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
24. That makes me feel a tiny, tiny bit better.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jul 2018

We have to eject the idiot in 2020 if he's not already gone.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
43. And you know what else we have to do???
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jul 2018

We have to get to work taking the WHOLE thing back.

It may take awhile, too. It took the bad guys 40 years or so. But they built it - with the establishment of think tanks and institutes, the grooming of talking-heads and other disciples, the buying up of media properties to spread their "goons' gospel of greed" if you will, the recruitment and nurturing of "talent" to populate those media properties, the attack on our public education system, the gerrymandering and Citizens United efforts that helped them rig the election game, and now they're enjoying many fruits of all those labors.

They had a blue print to work from: the "Powell Memo" written by Lewis Powell, commissioned by the US Chamber of Commerce, in 1971, basically as a reaction to all them damn hippies and free love, them uppity students and their draft card-burning campus unrest, them uppity women and their bra-burning man-hating "liberation", them uppity black people and their insistence on equal standing with whites, all that dancing around in the nude at Woodstock, etc. The business community didn't like what was happening during the 60s and found it threatening, and in need of being beaten back.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

But what now concerns us is quite new in the history of America. We are not dealing with sporadic or isolated attacks from a relatively few extremists or even from the minority socialist cadre. Rather, the assault on the enterprise system is broadly based and consistently pursued. It is gaining momentum and converts.

Sources of the Attack

The sources are varied and diffused. They include, not unexpectedly, the Communists, New Leftists and other revolutionaries who would destroy the entire system, both political and economic. These extremists of the left are far more numerous, better financed, and increasingly are more welcomed and encouraged by other elements of society, than ever before in our history. But they remain a small minority, and are not yet the principal cause for concern.
The most disquieting voices joining the chorus of criticism come from perfectly respectable elements of society: from the college campus, the pulpit, the media, the intellectual and literary journals, the arts and sciences, and from politicians. In most of these groups the movement against the system is participated in only by minorities. Yet, these often are the most articulate, the most vocal, the most prolific in their writing and speaking.
Moreover, much of the media-for varying motives and in varying degrees-either voluntarily accords unique publicity to these “attackers,” or at least allows them to exploit the media for their purposes. This is especially true of television, which now plays such a predominant role in shaping the thinking, attitudes and emotions of our people.


It goes on. And on. And on.

I'm JUST NOW starting to dig down into something intriguing:

https://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FDTD.pdf

This is an extended think piece called "From Dictatorship to Democracy," from theAlbert Einstein Institution, which looks mighty interesting - almost a counter-manifesto detailing how to fight and beat dictatorship, at least from first glance. Don't know yet if it's a workable response to the Powell memo because it's long and I'm still just getting into it.

I will report back. It's WE who must gain momentum and converts again. The bad guys have MORE THAN a 40-year head start. WE have to get cracking, and get cracking RIGHT NOW. We have a lot of ground to make up.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
26. I don't hate anyone - not even him
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jul 2018

But I understand why you feel that way. Hatred makes people stupid, and it makes us no better than the Trump Hate and Greed Team. We are better than that. Much much better. There is a place for anger if it's handled effectively. Anger can be sharp and hot and very very clear, if we use it to see what needs to be done. We must stay focused on kicking GOP butt in the Nov elections. The Trump supporters hate our guts and want to see everyone, who isn't them, to fail, get hurt, and suffer. That's how much they have Liberals, who practice compassion.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
30. I was for the first time in my life feeling hate.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jul 2018

It took me awhile to realize that I was giving him MY energy and redirected it to think positively and focus energy onto those who need the positive energy sent to them ( basically the whole world ) and do the good I am capable of doing.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
38. Hatred is a very intense negative emotion
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

Emotions are not real, solid, self-existent things. They only SEEM real. In Buddhism, we say that such mental formations are completely empty of self existence. Recognizing the energy of such a powerful emotion, we can choose not to blindly act it out, but to clearly do something positive and of benefit to those that are being harmed by hatred. We are not powerless. We can do something about this plague that has infected our government. It won't be easy. It will take a great struggle. So have to stay calm and focused. I envision a great renaissance of ethical behavior, decency, and personal integrity in our political representatives. I want to feel proud of my country again. I know that the majority of Americans want the same thing. As Trump sinks lower and lower into moral degeneracy, hatred, and stupidity, more and more of us approach the critical mass needed to make change for the better.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
40. Self discipline is of the utmost importance at this time.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

I keep allowing myself to fear what I may lose but as we are taught in Buddhism it is unhealthy to tie yourself to anything because it keeps you from growing and moving fluidly making it just about impossible to help others move along also.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
44. / Exactly This /
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:30 PM
Jul 2018

Self discipline is exactly what Trump and Republicans lack. We can calm down our cohorts, and encourage them to stay focused on the job at hand - winning big time in Nov. Republicans and Trump get weirder and weirder every week. I am no longer surprised by any stupid degenerate thing they do.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
35. I know very well that hatred is a negative emotion...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jul 2018

...that it just diminishes you, and makes you the prisoner of the object of your hate. Yeah--I know. I don't care. I hate this piece of shit as I've never hated anyone in my life. And his enablers--Pence, McConnell, Ryan, Sessions, Rubio--after what Trump said about him!--and Cruz, of course. Maybe he most of all, after what Trump said about his father. These vermin haven't got an ounce of courage or integrity between them. Fuck them all.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
39. I have never hated anyone as much as I do this creature
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

he just makes me want to vomit every time I see him anywhere and he never fucking shuts up.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
42. I, too, have never hated anyone as much as I do him
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jul 2018

I know I'll probably get blasted for this, but I often times respond to his vile talk with, "why can't he just die?" People do every second of the day - why can't one of them be him? Too many good people die and vile things like him continue on to hurt so many 😡

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
46. I know EXACTLY how you feel.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jul 2018

I have never hated anyone so much in my life and I hate him for making me hate so much. It's not rational, it's just visceral. The sight of him or the sound of his voice just arouses such hatred within me I can barely contain it. The day I read his obituary will be one of the happiest days of my life.

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