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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave we ever had ANY answer on where are the babies, and the girls??
'Cause I missed it if we did.
If not, why have we stopped demanding those answers?
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)Get thee to the greatest page
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'd googled yesterday and found almost nothing beyond the old "somewhere in Texas" kind of thing, or a picture of a few girls being walked down a NY street.
A local newspaper in MI did report on a blind twelve-year-old girl who'd been trafficked (my word) to the Bethany Christian Center foster care agency there. Rep. Debbie Dingell and 3 other Democratic reps toured and saw 10 children 3-4 and one under a year, gender not mentioned. Press and pictures not allowed.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:13 PM - Edit history (1)
as to WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)are destroying the United States..................
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)that the "lack of information" coming from the current administration would be a major concern for all.
Missing kids, hidden documents, lack of transparency - all are a common thread from the current regime.
Sorry for stepping on your singular focus.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)You're chiding me for apparently (not really, but apparently) not being sufficiently alarmed by the lies -- but see, I was taken aback by your apparent lack of concern for LIVES, especially vis a vis taxes.
MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)not at all!!!!!
Your concern for the children (and mine, too, might I say), is rightfully stated - and is but one of many issues regarding the terrible direction that IQ45 is leading us.
I have 2 grandchildren - both under 2 years old. The thought of them being "taken" in the name of "whatever-the-f**k" IQ45 and the Repugs claim it to be in - leaves me in extreme anger. I can't imagine the anguish the parents and families must endure, along with the other BS that is occurring in their lives.
This is NOT the United States that I want to live in - the United States that I want to be a part of - the United States that I believe should be a model for what is best for each and every person - regardless of origin or color.
I want to be here - I want this country to be a beacon of freedom - I want it to be a "safe harbor" - and I want IQ45 and his evil-spirited people gone (that means "out of power" - not "eliminated from life" .
Can I be any clearer?
We're apparently on the same page/different paragraph. Let's move forward to achieve what the founding fathers wanted this country to be.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I don't have the time or energy for this kind of ... whatever you want to call it.
MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)me too................
Varaddem
(432 posts)Where the repukes In Russia to check on the girls
Bettie
(16,129 posts)enormous sums to adopt babies and very young children.
Not saying it is happening, but it is definitely possible. They can make the paperwork say anything they want it to and the parents aren't in a position to object or even know where the kids are.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)to house them.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210840999
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Tucker08087
(621 posts)So Im just going to say it. My son was privately adopted. White children were about $30,000 or more depending on gene pool proof. Legal and medical fees, you know. I didnt have a requested race. Hispanic babies were about $12,000. Black babies were $8,000. My son is biracial. My legal fees were $18,000. My lawyer joked that he was on sale.
So yes, I bought my child, although his parents chose me and it was all open and upfront. He was premature and sickly, so if I had chosen to turn him down, his price would have decreased. But, based on supply and demand, Im not sure that the reason is adoption. These people dont want babies who are not white. I really think its the price of detention that they want. Cold, loveless, unending detention. Its worse than stealing and selling kids to people who are desperate for kids. I think its stealing and forgetting them, letting them rot, for people desperate for more money than they need.
And, yes, the price based on race still sickens me, and although I paid, my child is still the greatest gift anyone has ever and could possibly give to me. The lawyer, I guess, is a predator, but that girl stood in the hospital with tears streaming down her cheeks and handed me this tiny human who instantly became my world. She is my hero, his angel, and stronger than many. And she has her own family now, on her terms, when she was ready.
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)Girls will always be more profitable in trafficking. The market for boys is smaller.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,803 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)that it's spreading us too thin. All of us, including Congress. And/or wearing us out so we have no energy to wage the kind of wars we need to.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)on the subject. YMMV.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)They do keep track.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)so I can include it in my fax tonight.
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RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Human Rights violations and atrocities are STILL being committed against asylum-seeking families and their children at the border. Some of the people involved belong at the Hague.
There Was Never A Plan to Reunite Them
Records linking children to their parents have disappeared, and in some cases have been destroyed, according to two officials of the Department of Homeland Security, leaving the authorities struggling to identify connections between family members.
. . . In hundreds of cases, Customs agents deleted the initial records in which parents and children were listed together as a family with a family identification number, according to two officials at the Department of Homeland Security, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the process. As a result, the parents and children appeared in federal computers to have no connection to one another. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/us/migrant-children-chaos-family-separation.html
If Its TRUMP, Theres CORRUPTION
Someone recently said: Trump does not have policies. He has investment strategies. And they often involve his buddies.
These kids were sent straight to adoption centers, and at a premium rate:
Bethany Christian Services, an adoption center with financial ties to [Education Secretary] Betsy DeVos, has taken 81 immigrant children who were forcibly separated from their parents at the border. Most have had no contact with their families. Theyre charging $700 per child per night. This isnt foster care, this is state-sponsored kidnapping.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/bethany-christian-services-family-separation-betsy-devos/
The two largest private corrections corporations, GEO Group and CoreCivic, each gave $250,000 to Trump's inaugural festivities.
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/21/565318778/big-money-as-private-immigrant-jails-boom
Where Are the Infants - And the Girls?
Those 2 questions have never been satisfactorily answered. WHY ARE THEY NOT TELLING US? What has happened to these innocent children?
WHY is the Republican caucus not demanding answers? Why are you allowing this total lack of transparency, to include having members of Congress refused entry to any of the facilities housing the children? Why the lies and obfuscations in general? Its been totally outrageous.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?
If you are not PERSONALLY raising hell in
whatever committees youre in
or to those in relevant committees
AND to the President,
then YOU ARE COMPLICIT.
SILENCE CONDONES
We need answers and transparency, we need the President to stop these
brutally harmful and illegal practices, and we need the children re-united
IMMEDIATELY.
Again:
What are you personally doing about it?
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)but reports before were that there were a couple hundred in that one Texas facility.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)...and it won't be pretty