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https://themoscowproject.org/ The roadmap for Russian control of the US (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 OP
K&R n/t handmade34 Jul 2018 #1
K & R... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #2
K & R dae Jul 2018 #3
+1 sellitman Jul 2018 #4
What is so scary watoos Jul 2018 #5
That's the problem. Our pols are the minority and that is by design Wwcd Jul 2018 #9
I get it that we are the minority watoos Jul 2018 #12
Where were all these demanding voices in 2014 when Obama needed our help? Wwcd Jul 2018 #18
This group is part of Center for American Progress for those wondering. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #6
K&R. This goes so much deeper than "Russia wants us to be divided" ck4829 Jul 2018 #7
It's not just "Russia"... CanSocDem Jul 2018 #10
No argument from me ck4829 Jul 2018 #11
Wow! A Must Read. Excellent find & superior collection of data Wwcd Jul 2018 #8
Great use of information jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #13
Bookmarking AllyCat Jul 2018 #14
K&R PatSeg Jul 2018 #15
outstanding work AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #16
Watch the Netflix series ... OCCUPATION ... bone chilling !! America's occupation began in 2016 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #17
Thanks for sharing. I'm bookmarking this page. Dem_4_Life Jul 2018 #19
self-kick for the afternoon crowd ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #20
K&R liberalla Jul 2018 #21
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. What is so scary
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:17 AM
Jul 2018

that all of this has been, is, going on right in the open. It is clear that the Republican party could care less about the Russian takeover of our democracy as long as Russia keeps Republicans in power.

I keep hammering this second point, none of this takeover is possible, even with the collusion by the Republican party, if the M$M were not complicit, yes, including MSNBC. The M$M controls the narrative and it matters not if msnbc puts a left leaning slant to said narrative.

If the narrative is, Obama beats his wife, Fox says, of course he does, CNN says, we need more information, and msnbc says, no he doesn't. What does it matter that msnbc said no?

There has already been enough facts, proof, information, to impeach Donald Trump, so why is it taboo, by all the major cable news networks, to even discuss impeachment? Auntie Maxine has been attacked for suggesting to do something that everyone should agree needs done, impeachment.

Why isn't the M$M screaming to high heaven over the Republicans going to Russia for the 4th of July for God's sake? Why no screaming over Devin Nunes, over Paul Ryan letting him violate his authority over his committee?
For God's sake, when Democrats scream out the M$M simply calls them uncivil and even some Democrats get on board.

Jim Jordan will never step down, he will be rewarded by becoming the next Speaker, hopefully minority Speaker.

I am still upset that Steney Hoyer was chosen over Jack Murtha years ago. Murtha was an outspoken combat vet who was opposed to the war. How many people die over having their gall bladder removed?

Sorry about the rant but my days of being civil to uncivil traitorous people are over. If our democracy is going down, I'm going down fighting.

ps/ I am also a member of the ACLU and I just sent them another donation. If our minority politicians are unable to do anything the ACLU can take up the fight in the courts while there are still honorable judges there.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
9. That's the problem. Our pols are the minority and that is by design
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jul 2018

The size & scope of all the RU assets, the players, was all put in place by whatever corrupt means necessary, so the minority's hands would be tied.



 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. I get it that we are the minority
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:10 AM
Jul 2018

so explain why every Congressional Republican called for Al Franken to resign and numerous Democrats got on board. Fast forward to Jim Jordan. Jordan has had 7 former wrestlers come forward and state that he knew about the abuse going on in the locker room. Jordan called them all liars. How many Republicans are calling for Jordan to step down? Where are the Democrats who called for Franken to step down?

Democrats need to band together with clear, short, concise messaging, it's what the voters understand. Voters don't go for debates, for reason.

So we are the minority and our hands are tied, well dammit our voices aren't muffled. How uncivil that Sanders was asked to leave a restaurant, meanwhile our president has ripped children from their mother's arms. The private prison system is making big money over these kidnappings, where is the outrage? I live in Alabama, halfway between Pittsburgh and Philly. I got tossed from my local chat forum because I spoke the truth about Donald Trump. I wrote a letter to the editor of our local paper about the inhumanity of tearing babies from their mother's arms and jailing kids. I fully expect good Christian Republicans to write rebuttals to my letter. Badger your Congressmen, call and write them and join the ACLU. The ACLU is leading the charge against Trump's kidnapping of babies.

I fully expect Mueller to come out with bombshells and dammit every Democrat had better have his back because Republicans are going to attack his findings. Just maybe Republicans became the majority because they conspired with Russia? I'm fully ready and armed with mouth and pen to call them all traitors.

ps/ We need to go back to paper ballots. We have no idea if votes were flipped in the last election because we don't independently audit our voting machines. The Republicans who own the machines claim they are proprietary.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
18. Where were all these demanding voices in 2014 when Obama needed our help?
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jul 2018

We'd never have had Gorsuch & Obama's original health care plan, before the repubs watered it down would be law.

Life wasn't so bad in 2014, there were no loud voices that we hear today rallying for the 2014 midterms, that would have changed the course of history by giving Pres Obama a fair Congressional shake.

Lesson learned.

Every election has to be like 2018. America cannot drop the ball due to disinterest ever again.

GET OUT THE VOTE !

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
7. K&R. This goes so much deeper than "Russia wants us to be divided"
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:18 AM
Jul 2018

They don't want us to have hope. They don't want us to feel as though we can change things for the better. They want us to be OK with corruption and nepotism in our country so we'll have no right to go after corruption and nepotism in their country. And they want us to be OK with state sponsored murder and terrorism.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
10. It's not just "Russia"...
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:32 AM
Jul 2018


...It's the Global 1%.

The 'Have's'...

The oligarchy. The ruling class. Every individual who puts personal wealth above the public interest.

Probably half of the USA.

All this focus on "Russia" is just a distraction.


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Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
8. Wow! A Must Read. Excellent find & superior collection of data
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jul 2018

Thanks.
Bookmark this site

Here's just one example of the expert collection & presentation of information provided

I can't imagine the size of Mueller's white board!
**

I went to 'timeline' and clicked on 'players'

TIMELINE: CORRUPTION TO COLLUSION

PLAYERS▾


Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova
Alex Sapir
Alex van der Zwaan
Alexander Torshin
Andriy Artemenko
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva
Aras Agalarov
Avraham Berkowitz
Brad Parscale
Carter Page
Dana Rohrabacher
Devin Nunes
Dmitry Firtash
Dmitry Peskov
Donald Trump Jr.
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
Elena Baronoff
Emin Agalarov
Eric Trump
Erik Prince
Fabien Baussart
Fedor Emilianenko
Felix Sater
George Nader
George Papadopoulos
German Khan
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko
Guccifer 2.0
Herman Gref
Hope Hicks
Igor Diveykin
Igor Krutoy
Igor Sechin
Irakly (“Ike”) Kaveladze
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina
Ivanka Trump
J.D. Gordon
James Comey
Jared Kushner
Jeff Sessions
Jill Stein
K.T. McFarland
Kirill Dmitriev
Konstantin Kilimnik
Len Blavatnik
Leonid Reshetnikov
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
Maria Butina
Michael Cohen
Michael Flynn
Michael Flynn Jr.
Michael Pence
Mikhail Fradkov
Mikhail Fridman
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
Natalia Veselnitskaya
Oleg Deripaska
Paul Manafort
Peter Smith
Randa Kassis
Reince Priebus
Rex Tillerson
Richard Pinedo
Rick Dearborn
Rick Gates
Rinat Akhmetshin
Rob Goldstone
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda
Roger Stone
Sam Clovis
Sean Hannity
Sergei Gorkov
Sergei Ivanov
Sergei Millian
Sergey Kislyak
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov
Stephen Bannon
Stephen Miller
Tamir Sapir
Tevfik Arif
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev
Viktor Khrapunov
Viktor Vekselberg
Viktor Yanukovych
Vladimir Putin
Vladimir Venkov
Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
13. Great use of information
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:11 AM
Jul 2018

reported by journalists, mostly at the New York Times, the Guardian and the Washington Post, and of court documents.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
16. outstanding work
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018

this website did the media’s work for them. It is very clear at this point that Trump is trying to covert US into Russia’s style oligarchy with the help of Putin. Things are happening in the open on purpose. I am afraid by the time Mueller report comes out, Trump followers and most repubs will be on board with Russia as a job security for them. Trumpsters are 100% on board with one party rule autoritarianism, this much is certain. They’ve been purging GOP from anti-russians. Trump went hard against McCain who was a leading anti-russia voice in congress. Fringe groups are just tools to achieve the transition. We should be very concerned about the integrity of 2018 midterm elections. Putin and Trump will do everything they can to preserve GOP majority.

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