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Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:22 AM

 

Anyone else sick of this cruel talking point?


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Reply Anyone else sick of this cruel talking point? (Original post)
SHRED Jul 2018 OP
ooky Jul 2018 #1
Girard442 Jul 2018 #2
c-rational Jul 2018 #8
treestar Jul 2018 #27
Wwcd Jul 2018 #3
spanone Jul 2018 #4
SamKnause Jul 2018 #5
SHRED Jul 2018 #6
Initech Jul 2018 #7
Volaris Jul 2018 #44
Initech Jul 2018 #45
IronLionZion Jul 2018 #9
SHRED Jul 2018 #11
Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #24
treestar Jul 2018 #28
czarjak Jul 2018 #36
IronLionZion Jul 2018 #40
Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #10
treestar Jul 2018 #12
nolabear Jul 2018 #16
no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #13
Ohiogal Jul 2018 #14
Pacifist Patriot Jul 2018 #15
MarianJack Jul 2018 #17
bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #18
jaxind Jul 2018 #19
ffr Jul 2018 #20
elmac Jul 2018 #21
vlyons Jul 2018 #22
SunSeeker Jul 2018 #23
louis-t Jul 2018 #25
calimary Jul 2018 #26
Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #52
Butterflylady Jul 2018 #29
Hekate Jul 2018 #30
mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #31
Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2018 #32
unblock Jul 2018 #33
KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2018 #34
maryellen99 Jul 2018 #37
Cha Jul 2018 #42
Kurt V. Jul 2018 #35
KT2000 Jul 2018 #38
Orsino Jul 2018 #39
Cha Jul 2018 #41
LeftInTX Jul 2018 #43
YOHABLO Jul 2018 #46
LeftInTX Jul 2018 #47
GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #48
roamer65 Jul 2018 #49
Mariana Jul 2018 #50
jmowreader Jul 2018 #51
bettyellen Jul 2018 #53
Sophia4 Jul 2018 #54
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2018 #55
BlueJac Jul 2018 #56
ProfessorGAC Jul 2018 #57

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:27 AM

1. Yeah, can't stand it.

Trump followers = Tribalism

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:27 AM

2. This is why I don't have political discussions with the adversaries anymore.

They think that because their words sound good inside their heads, they've crafted a good argument.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:55 AM

8. Agreed. It's called sophistry - a deceptive argument or line of thinking - similar to chicanery.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:34 AM

27. Yes, so many that they don't think through

Thinking them through for 5 seconds exposes major holes.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:27 AM

3. K & R

 

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:28 AM

4. K&R...

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:37 AM

5. They are so stupid I don't know how they breathe without assistance.

Pertains to U.S. citizens:


If one parent gets arrested your children are not taken from their home and flown to another state.

You will not be told they have no idea where your children are.

Your children will not be housed in prisons or vacant buildings.


If both parents get arrested their children are not deported.

They stay with relatives or HHS will intervene.


It is apparent they would not do what it takes to protect their own children, or they would understand

the threat these immigrants are facing.


They are EVIL FUCKING LIARS without an ounce of empathy or sympathy.

No one should be getting arrested for a misdemeanor.


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Response to SamKnause (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:44 AM

6. Well put

 

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:54 AM

7. The one I've seen going around today is even worse!

Apparently the talking point among Trump fans is that since we'll be focused on ripping apart his SCOTUS nominee (which is totally expected) it will take the heat off the family separations going on at the border. WTF is wrong with these asshats?

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 06:08 PM

44. They KNOW it's wrong and welcome the 'distraction'.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #44)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:27 PM

45. Yup! Heads up their asses!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:57 AM

9. I've asked deplorables to quickly Google stuff before posting memes

but their response is that Google is liberal propaganda or they don't have time for a 2 second online search because they work for a living and don't depend on socialism for handouts.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:05 AM

11. Not only do they defend racism

 

They defend willful ignorance.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:18 AM

24. Weaponizing hate and fear is easy...been done for centuries. But weaponizing

stupidity, and having people willingly be missiles of imbecility...that is the special genius of Trump...aided and abetted by the Fox News rocket control centre, without which the whole mission would blow up on the Launchpad.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:37 AM

28. But they had time to spread the totalitarian Nazi racist Bullshit!

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:55 AM

36. You can show them facts and they will still state "pure bullshit"...

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Response to czarjak (Reply #36)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:22 PM

40. Or my favorite: "Take your leftist talking points and shove it."

in response to easily verifiable data from reputable sources.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:03 AM

10. Everything rumpsters say burns me, but especially THIS. nt

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:08 AM

12. The analogy does not work anyway

These children are detained on their own account, for being undocumented. That is why there are 3-year-olds in court. If you commit a regular crime, your child is not a party to the case. Not the same thing at all.

And they are willing to do this to someone just for the "crime" of coming illegally (as they see it, we know it is legal to ask for asylum. They refuse to get this).

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Response to treestar (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:41 AM

16. Right. It's the old totalitarian habit of punishing the whole family for one "crime."

Also a favorite Mafia technique.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:11 AM

13. Back in the Day, Jews were legal one day and illegal the next.

They were breaking the law by simply living in their homes in Germany and thus they deserved the policing and prosecution.

Funny how the Law works, huh?

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:36 AM

14. Here's the one I am so sick of hearing

"If they want to come here so bad, then let them go back and apply for citizenship and do it the right way."

There is so much wrong with that statement I'd need two pages to type it out. Yet I hear that a lot around here.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:38 AM

15. Thoroughly!!!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

17. My response to this is always the same...

...if you broke the law your children wouldn't be put into concentration camps. DUH.

RESIST!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

18. Yes

and sick of links to Tweets without posting the text also because some members don't automatically load the Tweet in real time, every time

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:46 AM

19. Hey, American born lawbreaker....

These families are trying to seek asylum...they are not trying to break the law! Secondly, if you as an American, break the law, your children are not put in a cage! And your child would most likely go to the other parent or to some loving family member! They would not be held in a cage without any love or affection!!!!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:46 AM

20. The legal Pandora's Box this administration is open us up too will drain the treasury for decades

Just you wait.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:48 AM

21. People in Nazi Germany that were put in consentration camps broke laws too

 

Nazi laws. Many were murdered for breaking laws. That excuse has been used by fascist pigs since the beginning.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:52 AM

22. Requesting asylum is not illegal

It ain't against the law

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:15 AM

23. K & R & Retweeted!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 AM

25. That's what all of the nitwits in my office

go around saying to themselves all day. Morons.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 AM

26. It's the marketing that matters.

All those talking points and the marketing machinery behind them.

Itís very carefully strategized and crafted to sound reasonable.

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Response to calimary (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

52. Yes. It comes from think tanks funded by Koch bros and other shadowy billionaires.

They've been building this propaganda infrastructure for decades.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:38 AM

29. Dumb sh*t

Even if she was parted from her kids for something done illegally, she would still no where they were and a family member was taking care of them. These people did nothing illegally and where asking for asylum. That is nothing to have your kids disappear for and not be able to find them. How would she like that? That seems to be the answer we should give to the dumb sh*t.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:40 AM

30. KnR

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:40 AM

31. Not that I disagree at ALL with the underlying point, but pretty sure running a stop-sign is not a

misdemeanor, it's an infraction (at least in the states I've lived in).

And I believe there are misdemeanors for which a person can go to jail (at least a judge could decide to put you in jail for it, whether it often happens I'm not sure).

However, your child is not taken away from your family because you committed a crime and put into jail as well. And you know where they are while you're locked up (presumably). That's the more important point IMHO.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:41 AM

32. "LINK TO TWEET" - yeah that is cruel. How hard is it to copy and paste - sheesh. nt

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:48 AM

33. It's a calculated lie to dehumanize non-white people

The dehumanization step toward genocide nearly always starts with accusing the target group of crimes (less often, it's diseases first, but usually eventually it's both).

It's really bizarre that they would pick "wanting to live in America" as the horrible crime to start with, but this is the gang that couldn't shoot straight.

What would they say if a Norwegian came to America without documents, seeking asylum? Can you imagine the outcry if a pretty white teenage blonde was put in a cage that way?

Yeah, I know what foxnews would say: "how horrible for that poor America-loving girl to be put in a cage with nineteen likely ms-13 gang recruits! Get her out of there! Give her citizenship now!"

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:49 AM

34. If you want to lose your breakfast.....

just click on that Crystal Smith twitter link. You'll get at least 10 years worth of Bible quotes, James Woods posts and sickening accolades for tRump. Demonstrates exactly how so many are trapped in the anti-American right-wing bubble.

It appears that many responders posting the most outrageous lies are bots. These people are totally brainwashed and insane......

Good response, Shred!......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:57 AM

37. Wonder if Crystal has a problem with Russians coming over here to have their Anchor Babies? Nt

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 04:00 PM

42. No Thanks! Fake "Christians" are the worst.. WWJD..

Not what fucking Crystal Smith spouts.. and she thinks James Woods' is the bomb. lol

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:52 AM

35. a response that has yet to fail me is

'I'm a human being first, a partisan second.' it must be done face to face, so I can look them in the eye.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:58 AM

38. Imprisoning children - that's the issue

have heard this but they are missing the point that the children are put into prisons - without a plan for even reuniting them with parents. The state does not take possession of children when a parent is sent to jail or as I have also heard - enter the military.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:17 PM

39. All the justifications that include, "they should have thought of that before x"...

...are avoiding addressing the crisis by excusing any Administration action.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 03:53 PM

41. Crystal Smith is Full of Shit.

Thanks for explaining the law to her brainwashed babble.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 04:26 PM

43. Tell Crystal Smith:

If she is arrested for a misdemeanor: She will be processed at the police station and will be sent home. She will get a summons in the mail. She will appear in court. She will probably be assigned community service or pay a fine.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #43)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:58 PM

46. Is that Abhishek Bachchan and John Abraham ? Very interesting

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #46)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:05 PM

47. Yes it is!!! Hilarious movie called Dostana

Two guys living in Miami pretend to be gay, so they could room in an expensive high rise with Priyanka Chopra. Like Jack Tripper in Three's Company, but unlike Jack Tripper, these two behave flamboyantly and it is the focus on the film.


Abhishek and John find out they can get some type of asylum if they apply for citizenship as a gay couple. The application somehow gets sent to Abhishek's mom. A gay INS agent shows up to their apartment demanding proof that they are gay, so they throw a party. Mom rushes from India and crashes the party. Mom has a nervous breakdown.

Of course, they both fall for Priyanka while trying to keep up the facade.


The whole movie is funny...


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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:16 PM

48. Not half as sick as I am of the shitstains who spew it.

Complete wastes of human flesh, the lot of them.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:27 PM

49. She's a stupid twit.

She probably doesnít give a shit abut her kids either.

She sounds like a horrible mother.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:36 PM

50. It's a lie anyway.

If a parent is arrested and charged with a crime, the kids stay with the other parent, some other relative, or are placed in foster care. That is not what's being done with these children.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:03 AM

51. Don't go to Crystal Smith's Twitter page

The only way we're ever going to get our country back is to buy some acreage in Africa, name it Trumpland, and deport people like Crystal Smith to it. I don't know what this woman thinks she is, but she's no American.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

53. My friend said that to me and I pointed out some crimes I witnessed him commit....

 

When I was 14 1/2 and he 18. He was denying I knew my own age. LOL

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:48 AM

54. They come here with their children because they care about their children.

 

The terrible problems in the countries of their births need to be dealt with.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:15 AM

55. If somebody is trying to kill me and I jump a fence onto private property, I break the law.

 

Am I likely to get arrested in a situation like that? No, because of white privilege. I don't look or talk like what the far right thinks of as a "threat."

Many/most of the families trying to cross the US/Mexico border are FLEEING situations where they are in tremendous peril. But they're brown, not white, and poor, and speak a different language. That's it.
These people aren't criminals, they are refugees.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:52 AM

56. k&R

Yes

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:55 AM

57. Yes. It's Intellectually Lazy

Requires no thought and attempts to justify the irredeemable by just spouting a one-liner.

Dumb.

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