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Nero Mero

(52 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:01 PM Jul 2018

Bernie: We must fight Putin

I like this.

Senator Bernie Sanders said we need to fight so he won’t interfere with our elections against, and called out Trump.

This shows the disconnect between Bernie and some phony liberals such as Jill Stein and Glenn Greenwald.



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Bernie: We must fight Putin (Original Post) Nero Mero Jul 2018 OP
This is good news MaryMagdaline Jul 2018 #1
+1 nt backtoblue Jul 2018 #100
Gosh. Really? That would never have occurred to any of us if he hadn't said it. Squinch Jul 2018 #2
Well it is good he's evolving. emulatorloo Jul 2018 #6
Bernie Sanders: Russia and Stormy Daniels distract us from real problem of inequality Cha Jul 2018 #65
I remember this Gothmog Jul 2018 #80
Oh yeah.. took a little research and Cha Jul 2018 #82
Yep Gothmog Jul 2018 #81
Ain't that the truth! tonyt53 Jul 2018 #11
Just remember .....HILLARY WOULD HAVE BEEN KICKING PUTIN'S ASS RIGHT NOW. trueblue2007 Jul 2018 #38
Two thumbs up. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #51
That's why he did everything possible to stop her from being elected stevenleser Jul 2018 #97
He's running to get to the front of the parade. yardwork Jul 2018 #112
Glad he's changed his tune from blaming Hillary for Russian interference and undercutting Mueller emulatorloo Jul 2018 #3
I'm getting tears reading your note. I know she is a strong woman and would kick putin's ass trueblue2007 Jul 2018 #39
Go Bernie...Go AWAY. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #53
Completely agree, backtoblue Jul 2018 #102
i echo your statement. thanks trueblue2007 Jul 2018 #104
He should of thought of that in the 2016 election katmondoo Jul 2018 #4
+ one million. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #27
Exactly!!!!!! nt jrthin Jul 2018 #43
Russia and Wikileakes tried and succeeded in stirring up sanders supporters just before DNC Gothmog Jul 2018 #84
The internet doesn't forget. joshcryer Jul 2018 #101
I was a delegate to the National Convention Gothmog Jul 2018 #108
I wish you'd have gotten video of that. joshcryer Jul 2018 #110
There is video that can be used Gothmog Jul 2018 #113
seriously asking trump to take on putin? AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #5
Bernie voted against Russian sanctions? oasis Jul 2018 #28
Well the Russians did help Bernie. comradebillyboy Jul 2018 #30
I'm deeply pained by that revelation. oasis Jul 2018 #33
that hasn't been discussed enough AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #56
Russia and sanders were working together? Gothmog Jul 2018 #85
I'm sure Jeff Weaver would've advised him against it. oasis Jul 2018 #89
Disconcerting how good folks can just fall all to hell. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #54
trump will be apologizing to putin on monday for the disrespecting by Mueller spanone Jul 2018 #7
This is funny - DURHAM D Jul 2018 #8
But I wish he had used his best Get Off My Lawn voice. tavernier Jul 2018 #9
He said that, did he? murielm99 Jul 2018 #10
For some reason the gnashing of teeth about Schumer and Pelosi not being "strong enough"... George II Jul 2018 #22
BS: Russia and Stormy Daniels Distract us from.. Cha Jul 2018 #66
. George II Jul 2018 #83
+1, yeah, the rest of us figured this out years ago. R B Garr Jul 2018 #46
Yes, when we were with one voice and he was saying Russia was a Distraction.. Cha Jul 2018 #76
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jul 2018 #86
I can't decide which is funnier -- the fact that he said it, or the fact that someone posted, or the WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #12
In racing terms - Triple Dead Heat! George II Jul 2018 #18
And here's #12 in a thread about the state party endorsement in the Californis senate race. lapucelle Jul 2018 #103
I couldn't find my 11th post. I hope it was wonderful and articulate...:) dameatball Jul 2018 #41
We did speak with one voice concerning Russian sanctions. lapucelle Jul 2018 #13
You mean every Democrat except Bernie Sa...er uh... LuvLoogie Jul 2018 #14
By that do you mean all Democrats but not the Independent from Vermont? nt DURHAM D Jul 2018 #15
There was a total of five legislators across both chambers who voted against sanctions. lapucelle Jul 2018 #16
Not sure what you are trying to do. DURHAM D Jul 2018 #19
Yes, I know. lapucelle Jul 2018 #25
Rand Paul, nice company. George II Jul 2018 #36
Typo in your Senate tally. George II Jul 2018 #21
Thanks, George. Fixed. lapucelle Jul 2018 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #17
Exactly! Years ago even. R B Garr Jul 2018 #47
While BS was telling us for two years that Russia was a distraction.. Cha Jul 2018 #72
And, we spoke with one voice saying Russia was NOT a "distraction".. Cha Jul 2018 #78
EVERY DEMOCRAT! sheshe2 Jul 2018 #91
Is he not one of only two Senators who voted AGAINST Russia Sanctions (98-2)? George II Jul 2018 #20
That's what the Congressional record says. N/T lapucelle Jul 2018 #26
On 10/31/2017 he said: sheshe2 Jul 2018 #23
Bernie reminds me of my neighbor. DURHAM D Jul 2018 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jul 2018 #34
I've seen people like that, and then he complains that you ran out of macaroni salad. George II Jul 2018 #35
Yep. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #40
+1, your neighbor sounds like quite an opportunist. nt R B Garr Jul 2018 #48
+1,000,000 George II Jul 2018 #31
Hey, George. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #37
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #32
Bernie's recent Russia statement may, or may not be, a "flip-flop" oasis Jul 2018 #42
lol... sheshe2 Jul 2018 #45
LOL Tad Devine! R B Garr Jul 2018 #49
Happy reading. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #92
Wow! Bernie really said that, didn't he? NurseJackie Jul 2018 #52
Jackie! sheshe2 Jul 2018 #62
Hey Jackie.. Remember this.. Cha Jul 2018 #67
Yeah, I remember that, DU thread on it: joshcryer Jul 2018 #98
Oh, Mr. No on Sanctions NOW thinks we all need to speak with one voice? MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #44
Well said. Thank you. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #50
WTF ?!?! So dude voted against the sanctions and says this shit !?!? uponit7771 Jul 2018 #63
He's not criticizing Trump. He's saying "Trump should." pnwmom Jul 2018 #55
he is implying trump is innocent and it's all putin's work AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #57
Yes. And the top US Senators say DON'T MEET WITH PUTIN. pnwmom Jul 2018 #59
circus! AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #60
Indeed. joshcryer Jul 2018 #99
Late To The Dance Again Sherlock Me. Jul 2018 #58
Exactly Me.. after telling us for two years that Russia was a "distraction".. Cha Jul 2018 #69
Exactly Cha....Why Does Anyone Listen to HIm? Me. Jul 2018 #93
Yeah, so many brilliant Dems have Cha Jul 2018 #94
Too Too True Me. Jul 2018 #95
"Why Does Anyone Listen to HIm?" Jamaal510 Jul 2018 #96
Why Does Rudi? Me. Jul 2018 #109
Wait. So Bernie has "evolved" on this issue? mcar Jul 2018 #61
Very good questions, mcar. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #64
I'm not expecting much mcar Jul 2018 #68
That is a given. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #73
And, he's been telling us for two years that Russia is a distraction.. Cha Jul 2018 #70
This too! mcar Jul 2018 #71
We've been calling him out for two years on Cha Jul 2018 #75
One thing he got right mcar Jul 2018 #87
Squalid Fraud ALWAYS Projects! Cha Jul 2018 #88
11th post is an OP about Bernie... SidDithers Jul 2018 #74
From the Hoarse Whisper Gothmog Jul 2018 #77
Wow.. I never thought of that before! nini Jul 2018 #79
No shit really? Nt Quayblue Jul 2018 #90
So sick of bellowing Skidmore Jul 2018 #105
I totally feel the same way ... NurseJackie Jul 2018 #107
++ same here nt heaven05 Jul 2018 #114
Only two senators VOTED AGAINST RUSSIA SANCTIONS in 2017: Ron Paul and BERNIE SANDERS. VOX Jul 2018 #106
+1. dalton99a Jul 2018 #111

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
1. This is good news
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jul 2018

Liberals, Progressives, whatever we call ourselves, have to be united against anti-democratic and anti-socialist forces.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
6. Well it is good he's evolving.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jul 2018

Nonetheless his no votes on Russian sanctions (because reasons!) and the Magnitsky Act will probably still haunt him during his upcoming 2020 Presidential run.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
82. Oh yeah.. took a little research and
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 07:51 PM
Jul 2018

up it came from March 20, 2018. I'm glad our Dems in Congress didn't listen to him.

Goth

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
97. That's why he did everything possible to stop her from being elected
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:54 AM
Jul 2018

She would have at the very least continued whatever maneuver Obama orchestrated that kept oil and gas at incredibly low prices. There is little that comes close to hurting Russia economically more than that.

Someday I hope whatever deal Obama put together to do that is declassified. I’m dying to read about it.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
3. Glad he's changed his tune from blaming Hillary for Russian interference and undercutting Mueller
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jul 2018

Go Bernie!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/bernie-sanders-trump-russia-interference-420528

Bernie blames Hillary for allowing Russian interference
The senator and his top political adviser also denied Mueller's assertion that Russian actors backed his campaign.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 02/21/2018 06:45 PM EST Updated 02/21/2018 09:48 PM EST

——

https://thedailybanter.com/issues/2018/02/22/bernie-goes-full-trump-blames-hillary-for-russian-interference/

FEB 22, 2018
POLITICS
Bernie Goes Full…Trump? Blames Hillary For Russian Interference

trueblue2007

(19,251 posts)
39. I'm getting tears reading your note. I know she is a strong woman and would kick putin's ass
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jul 2018

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
53. Go Bernie...Go AWAY.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jul 2018

never thought I'd say it. I'm just over the Bernie thing. He had a ripe moment...but that moment has passed. If anybody needs another shot or redemption, it's President Hillary Clinton. We had the budget leeway for healthcare and free college...but it went away. And that leeway is now sitting in offshore accounts...where I wish the people who owned them...would swim to.

backtoblue

(13,197 posts)
102. Completely agree,
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:25 AM
Jul 2018

But his sentiments still hold a truth. Income inequality is paramount to our democracy. As a progressive, this is near and dear to my heart. I will fight the fight and continue... I'm a liberal at heart. A liberal at soul.

Gothmog

(179,847 posts)
84. Russia and Wikileakes tried and succeeded in stirring up sanders supporters just before DNC
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jul 2018

I was a delegate at the national convention and saw this first hand




I was a member of the Texas delegation and saw how effective Russian and Wikileaks were in stirring up sanders supporters



joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
101. The internet doesn't forget.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:22 AM
Jul 2018

The media never did its fucking job, but the internet doesn't forget. Thanks for posting this.

Gothmog

(179,847 posts)
108. I was a delegate to the National Convention
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jul 2018

I saw the effects of Russia's actions first hand. Sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis on the first night of the convention. I was warned of this by the Clinton delegation whip 20 to 30 minutes before this planned stunt. Sanders was evidently asked to stop this stunt and refused. The idiots who post on JPP were very happy about his stunt https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/hey-john-lewis-karmas-a-mf-aint-it/

Hey John Lewis; karma's a MF, ain't it?
When you had the chance to get behind a true progressive in the primaries, you pretended you had no idea who he was. Not only that, you did so in a press conference in order to show your allegiance to Hillary “bring them to heel” Clinton. Yep. You sold your legacy of police beatings and marches for civil rights with MLK to align yourself with the biggest corporate sellout loser candidate the dems have ever run. “Why would you have done such a thing?” people may wonder. Well, I’m sure it has nothing to do with attaining more power in an already corrupt system that you don’t seem to have a problem with now that you’re a part of it. So when you take to the stage and claim that Trump isn’t a “legitimate” president, not only are you wrong, you’re also to blame for his having been elected in the first place. You and every other sellout in the party can all go fuck yourselves. And please do so in a place that’s far away from any levers of power.

At the national convention, a number of sanders supporters yelled obscenities at my daughter and called her the c-word because she refused to try to get me to change my vote. These delegates were very poorly behaved at the convention in large part due to Russian efforts. .

Russia's efforts in stirring up the sanders delegates at the national convention worked

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
110. I wish you'd have gotten video of that.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jul 2018

I know we have video of them booing and there are some unseemly pictures of them booing, but it would've been nice to get video of each and every POS there.

I was actually proud of the real Democrats there that day, as the Sanders supporters booed people they used patriotism to drown them out, yelling USA, USA, USA.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
5. seriously asking trump to take on putin?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jul 2018

this is a wrong and misleading message. The message should be that trump cannot be allowed to meet with putin. Bernie’s campaign was deeply infiltrated by russian trolls and sponsored operatives, he never addressed that. He also was one of the only two senators to vote against russian sanctions. He never took even partial responsibility for 2016 fiasco. Bernie, here is the newsflash for you: trump has no interest in stopping putin, in fact he wants his help. trump has no interest in maintaining democracy he is trying hard to break it. By even suggesting that trump should stop putin you are misleading your supporters into belieiving that trump is innocent and it’s all putin’s fault. Bernie is becoming dangerous again. I wish that he stayed silent on this issue and focused on economic message, there are many more knowledgable people with actual foreign policy experience that can speak intelligently about treason not some dummy talk for the sheep. He should have listed to Hilary, he’d learn a thing about trumputin.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
56. that hasn't been discussed enough
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jul 2018

without russian help, bernie would have lost primaries early in the process. Troll army, plus some of the campaign members who inflitrated made it ok to spread anti hilary propaganda, bernie supporters just multipled the message leading to a prolonged primary and deep divisions within the party. This is classic putin and bernie swallowed it.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
54. Disconcerting how good folks can just fall all to hell.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jul 2018

hillary won. Be a Senator already Bernie. I won't vote for Bernie again. He revealed himself. Folks who can't make up their minds, or decide if they feel left or right...sit in the middle...on the fence. No more Bernie.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
9. But I wish he had used his best Get Off My Lawn voice.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jul 2018

This message didn’t seem to contain much passion.

Oh, I like Bernie just fine. I guess I’m just a little pissed at all of them because surely if there is a Hair on Fire moment, Rump’s actions, especially in the light of the indictments, should warrant a bit more fire breathing. I don’t want to think they would allow us to go out with the proverbial whimper. I want the Bang!

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. For some reason the gnashing of teeth about Schumer and Pelosi not being "strong enough"...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jul 2018

...comes to mind. Ironic.

R B Garr

(17,984 posts)
46. +1, yeah, the rest of us figured this out years ago.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jul 2018

Makes you wonder what took so long...

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,955 posts)
12. I can't decide which is funnier -- the fact that he said it, or the fact that someone posted, or the
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jul 2018

fact that the person who posted it has 11 posts.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
103. And here's #12 in a thread about the state party endorsement in the Californis senate race.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:10 AM
Jul 2018
McCaskill will still win by landslide

Voters are not party leadership.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
13. We did speak with one voice concerning Russian sanctions.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jul 2018

Every Democrat in in both chambers of Congress voted in favor.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
16. There was a total of five legislators across both chambers who voted against sanctions.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jul 2018

None of them were Democrats. The final votes were 419-3 in the House and 98-2 in the Senate.

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
19. Not sure what you are trying to do.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jul 2018

The Senate vote was 98 - 2. Only Bernie and Rand voted no.

Response to lapucelle (Reply #13)

Cha

(319,067 posts)
78. And, we spoke with one voice saying Russia was NOT a "distraction"..
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jul 2018


Excellent point, lapucelle!

sheshe2

(97,622 posts)
23. On 10/31/2017 he said:
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jul 2018

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS:

We have got to focus on the bread and butter issues that mean so much to ordinary Americans.

Americans are not staying up every day worrying about Russia’s interference in our election.
They’re wondering how they’re going to send their kids to college. They’re wondering how they’re going to be able to pay the rent. They are worried about whether they can afford health care. They’re worried about the income they make-- if it is enough to put food on the table. We are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. And our job is to create an economy that works for all of us and not just the 1 percent. And those are issues that we absolutely cannot afford to lose sight of.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/31/bernie_sanders_americans_are_not_staying_up_every_day_worrying_about_russias_interference_in_our_election.html

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
29. Bernie reminds me of my neighbor.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jul 2018

When we have a block party he won't RSVP or contribute anything but he always shows up to eat the food and drink the beer brought by others and won't go home.

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #29)

oasis

(53,692 posts)
42. Bernie's recent Russia statement may, or may not be, a "flip-flop"
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jul 2018

but it's definitely a "flop".

R B Garr

(17,984 posts)
49. LOL Tad Devine!
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jul 2018

I read that far and that was enough for now, Saved to read more later. Hi she!

sheshe2

(97,622 posts)
92. Happy reading.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:34 PM
Jul 2018

It is enlightening to say the least. Not flattering at best. He is finally being held accountable for his words vs his votes. He voted NO on Russian sanctions. He and Rand Paul are the only ones that did.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. Wow! Bernie really said that, didn't he?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jul 2018

Wow! Bernie really said that, didn't he?

Amazing! (Thank you for the reminder.)

:hug

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
98. Yeah, I remember that, DU thread on it:
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:11 AM
Jul 2018
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029776121

First time I thought it was Sarah Sanders making another dumbass comment and it turned out to be Bernie Sanders. Made me sick.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
44. Oh, Mr. No on Sanctions NOW thinks we all need to speak with one voice?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jul 2018

What? As long as it's his?

Color me unimpressed.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
50. Well said. Thank you.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jul 2018
As long as it's his?
Well said. Thank you.

You are exactly correct about that. Predictable but tiresome nonetheless, isn't it?

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
55. He's not criticizing Trump. He's saying "Trump should."
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jul 2018

As if Trump will. He's giving Trump credit he doesn't deserve.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
57. he is implying trump is innocent and it's all putin's work
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jul 2018

this is how the message is read by both bernie and trump followers

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
60. circus!
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jul 2018

all media, dem polticians, instead of taking about trump putin collusion and likely treason 24/7 they are trying to make sense of it and give ‘advise’ to trump. You can’t make this stuff up! What will it take? At this point, even if Mueller will present a case showing proof of trump direct involvement, the media will be saying that trump got played by puing and you bet dem senators will swallow that RW talking point. Trump has excelled at playing dumb game. Michael Moore said long time ago that trump is not stupid, far from it. In fact, he knows precisely what he is doing and it’s been working for him like for nobody else. Literally, no one else in the world would have been able to get away with what trump has been doing for the last two years.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
93. Exactly Cha....Why Does Anyone Listen to HIm?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:18 PM
Jul 2018

His needs to get his thinking straight, worry less about other people's elections and focus on his daytime job.

Aloha..

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
96. "Why Does Anyone Listen to HIm?"
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:34 AM
Jul 2018

What I want to know is why he continues to get booked on all these TV shows like Jake Tapper and Chris Hayes.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
109. Why Does Rudi?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jul 2018

divisiveness though on Hayes part he often desperately tries to be outside the box

mcar

(46,056 posts)
61. Wait. So Bernie has "evolved" on this issue?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jul 2018

A. I thought he didn't evolve, he always has the right stand on any issue forever.

B. Would he vote for Russia sanctions now?

C. Does he no longer think Russian interference is Hillary's fault?

Cha

(319,067 posts)
75. We've been calling him out for two years on
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 07:35 PM
Jul 2018

saying "Russia is a distraction"! We were with one voice!

We knew/know how important the integrity of our Voting Process is and that we were attacked by Russia as an act of war.


mcar

(46,056 posts)
87. One thing he got right
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jul 2018

The election WAS rigged. Though not in the way he claimed.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
105. So sick of bellowing
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 07:27 AM
Jul 2018

self-serving men on the right and left. Bernie One Note needs to just go back to Vermont. Don't care for him or his lack of vision.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
107. I totally feel the same way ...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jul 2018

I totally feel the same way about self-serving bellowing politicians with a lack of vision. It's been my observation that these types (on the left and right, as you say) tend to do well in their homogeneous states or districts, which convinces them (and their followers of their infallibility) but in the end, and when it comes right down to it, they struggle in a national (or statewide) arena and fail to make the mark.

All I'm trying to say is that it's sometimes better to be big fish in a small pond and to make the most of it without trying to over-reach.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
106. Only two senators VOTED AGAINST RUSSIA SANCTIONS in 2017: Ron Paul and BERNIE SANDERS.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:00 AM
Jul 2018

Oh, yes, "we" MUST fight Putin right away. Jesus H. Christ...

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