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Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:23 PM

Countdown on the Rupert Murdoch Moment


If, like me, you couldn't see but only hear Trump's answer on why he doesn't support his own intelligence communities assessment on Russian interference, you heard not only a person disassembling in real time with incoherent babbling you could hear his voice tighten and grow dry and as he barked out phrases that he had been practicing.

It is the defining moment of the Trump Presidency.

Trump continues as President for only one reason: Fox News still supports him.

Rupert Murdoch calls the shots at Fox, at least the big ones. Someone once asked Murdoch why he had only conservatives on his network and he answered "Well what about Greta, she is a liberal Democrat" which left me wondering if he really knows the details of what goes on there.

Murdoch will not be impressed with this latest debacle. There will come a tipping point for people like Murdoch where there simply is no more upside to Donald Trump and the inevitable fall will only hurt them. Pence will be seen as a safe life preserver. If Murdoch turns then the cacophony from the media will be a drum beat of disgrace and a call for resignation, it really is down to one person, Rupert Murdoch.

Forget Ari Fletcher, Joe Walsh or Lindsey Graham, the really interesting response will be from Pence. If he has moved off of Team Trump it will be largely just silence.

What will be the tipping point be? Could be Mueller's next round of indictments.

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grantcart Jul 2018 OP
Snotcicles Jul 2018 #1
muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #2
grantcart Jul 2018 #3
spinbaby Jul 2018 #4
grantcart Jul 2018 #5

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Mon Jul 16, 2018, 03:18 PM

2. Murdoch is a weather vane rather than a weather maker

He's good at spinning the bias in his media as "shaping politics", because it keeps politicians sucking up to him, but when the order of events is examined, it's usually him deciding he's got no choice but to move.

I think Fox will stay quiet for a few weeks, and watch the polls. If there's a decisive drop in Republican trust on Trump on foreign affairs that looks like it will last to November and deliver a Democratic House or Senate majority, then Murdoch will turn Fox.

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Mon Jul 16, 2018, 03:32 PM

3. No one accumulates the assets and wealth Murdoch has by being a weather vane.

He is a bottom line evaluator of profit and loss, risk and reward, and while morally bankrupt he is extremely good at it.

Propping Trump up with massive federal enforcement coming and Trump disassembling like a drunk has moved him to high risk and no reward.

His sons will press the case that they have a chance to get ahead and profit from his demise.

Murdoch's English assets lean right but are not shy in attacking right wing leaders if they show weakness.

They can then double their profit with "The making of Pence" as the savior of the Republic in the backside.

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Mon Jul 16, 2018, 03:35 PM

4. That's how we'll know Trump is going down

When he loses Fox hes lost everyone. I tuned in for a few moments this morning and they were going on about what a clever negotiator he is, so not yet.

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Mon Jul 16, 2018, 03:39 PM

5. Wait for Sheppard. I heard Calutto (sp?) Was negative

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