Papa John Warns: Pizza Prices Will Rise Under Obamacare

[WillParkinson]

Papa John Warns: Pizza Prices Will Rise Under Obamacare

During a shareholders conference call last week, "Papa" John Schnatter, founder and CEO of the pizza chain that bears his name, issued a warning to consumers that, unless Obamacare is repealed, the company's pizza prices are likely to increase.

"If Obamacare is in fact not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto consumers in order to protect our shareholders best interests," Schnatter said, according to Politico.

A major Mitt Romney backer, Schnatter estimates pizzas under Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents extra, "or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis."

McDonald's addressed Obamacare concerns during its Q2 earnings call last month, but, unlike Papa John's, did not indicate that need to pass the impact onto consumers.

http://gawker.com/5932557/papa-john-warns-pizza-prices-will-rise-under-obamacare?tag=pizzapolitics

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Who cares?

[99Forever]

132. Like what that outfit makes...

... qualifies as pizza. That crap is NASTY.

[Phlem]

149. And

already overpriced.

-p

[roguevalley]

193. he really wants to lose business. I wonder if he will give up his own coverage. Or maybe

the company can take one for the team.

nah...

[99Forever]

194. I don't have the link handy...

.. but they are ripping the jerk to shreds over on his FB page. (Someone posted a link somewhere on DU) Not much of "social media" type myself, but I'm guessing that it isn't good news for their business.

[SharonAnn]

262. Just because I'd like everything as cheap as possible, doesn't mean I'm entitled

to take advantage of people or enslave them with too low a pay to live one and no benefits just because I want something cheap.

Perhaps slavery would be the model that he wants to emulate, but I find that morally repugnant.

[Lucy Goosey]

2. Food prices are going up because of drought

...and I bet Schnatter knows it.

This is so disgustingly disingenuous; I hope people can see it for what it is.

[Curtland1015]

5. Same thing that popped into my head.

Makes me wonder how many right wing ass hats will be blaming Obama for higher corn prices next year.

[HappyMe]

13. Exactly.

Drought = higher food costs.

I hope people don't fall for this.

[littlewolf]

221. also add the high fuel prices

to the mix .... and that is what is gonna
drive prices up ....

[mazzarro]

55. And if by some chance Rmoney is one in office and ACA is not in place

Then the douche bag will resort to drought as the cause of increased price of his damned pizza. Well people should eat less pizza anyway - IMO.

[ecstatic]

3. Uggh. Is he trying to copy CFA's Cathy?

Maybe a bunch of idiots will stand in line for hours to buy pizza. I'm officially done.

[otohara]

99. The New Way To Drum Up Business

slam the president, abortion, gays...

left protests

right runs to eat junk food.

[The Wizard]

136. They're trying to attract

the Chick fil A customer base.

[otohara]

140. Bakery In Colorado

doing the same thing...refusing to bake a cake for same-sex couple.
Left shows up with signs,
Right shows up in droves to buy sweets.

Presto - business owner is a happy, a bigot but still happy with the results.

[Grown2Hate]

161. And once that dries up because people lose interest, the left STILL won't eat there.

So good move, assholes. No one eats your SHIT pizza anyhow.

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. Pizza is already a "vegetable" under those idiots.

[Maeve]

6. Would you pay 15 cents more for a pizza if everyone got health care?

Not that I order from Papa John's anyway, but...

[WillParkinson]

8. Would I pay 15 cents more?

Hell yes.

[southernyankeebelle]

68. If I am not mistake this CEO of Pappa Johns is building a village for catholics and you have

to live by their ways. I stopped buying at Pappa Johns long before this. I am catholic and I don't agree with this kind of living. It scares me for the children of families that move in a place like this.

[gollygee]

74. No that's Tom Monaghan of Domino's Pizza

Another awful pizza producer.

[southernyankeebelle]

119. Oh I thought it was Pappa John's . Well that is ok by me. I don't eat there anymore either.

[think]

76. Yer probably thinking of the owner of Dominos and the city of Ave Maria in Florida:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria,_Florida

[OriginalGeek]

111. SInce I live in FLorida

I went to their site to see where it was (a good long way from me) and they have live operators that pop up in chat to answer questions. So I asked if atheists or abortion doctors could buy homes there and this is what he said:

...Ave Maria is not a Catholic community if that is what you were thinking...Ave Maria is open to every religion, ethnicity and age. In fact, we believe that the intermingling of people of different backgrounds, interests and life stages will be important to making Ave Maria a true community.

which is word for word from their faq so it seems like that is what they have to say but at least it doesn't sound quite as nefarious as depicted above.

The operator who spoke with me treated me more kindly than I treated him at first (I was being a dick and I shouldn't have been.) I ended up thanking him for his time and patience we parted ways.

[southernyankeebelle]

121. Well what's the point having it? What you hear and what you get might be 2 different things.

[OriginalGeek]

147. I imagine the point is to have a planned community

there are a lot of them in Florida, (Avalon, Baldwin Park and Celebration just to name 3 I can think of off the top of my head right here in Central Florida) just not all owned by a Catholic pizza guy...I suspect they would like to see community members go to their church but I found nowhere that said it was a requirement.

I bet I'd have to buy or be seriously interested in buying enough to go down and talk to the various builders in person to see what HOA rules there were though. The site mentioned but did not specify fees for common area upkeep and services.

Look, I'm not interested in defending the Catholic church but I am willing to stick to criticizing them for shit they actually do instead of what I think they might have done or what someone else might have done with their name on his speed-dial.

I do not discount the possibility that the guy on the other end of the chat is a salesman and has to say salesman things. But the community was portrayed as some culty, stepford wives kind of place yet it seems to be not much more than a planned community that happens to be owned by a rich Catholic guy who sells crappy pizza.

But not as crappy as Papa John's.

[southernyankeebelle]

148. Your point is well taken.

[think]

160. This may change your opinion a bit:

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-10-20/news/ave-maria-university-a-catholic-project-gone-wrong/

[OriginalGeek]

182. Well now THAT's more juicy

Monaghan is a loon. There was never any danger I would ever have moved there but I hope now that nobody else does either.

[southernyankeebelle]

120. Wow is it already built?

[think]

159. It is but there isn't much there. It is so purposely remote

that it may never really be a true city. I visited there briefly as my Mother wanted to see it. The place is very beautiful but there are so few people that it was kind of haunting.


As for your thoughts about control there it appears you are correct:

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-10-20/news/ave-maria-university-a-catholic-project-gone-wrong/

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/may/11/town-without-vote-residents-control/

[southernyankeebelle]

196. Just what I thought would happen. When you have one person playing god well you

see what happens. Kinda like the Mormons in Utah.

[Judi Lynn]

213. Sounds like on of the religious compounds of the extreme fringe cults. Good grief.

Super spooky.

Unfortunately, it's not hard to believe in this strange present.

On edit:

Thanks to the posters who added more info. Glad to learn more about it.

[southernyankeebelle]

227. I agree thanks for the extra places to read up on it. It really didn't take much to realize

that something like that was going to happen because the leader always thinks he knows better and ends up thinking they are god.

[riderinthestorm]

82. Really, that's the point isn't it? nt

[Romulox]

223. Obamacare is MANDATORY, FOR PROFIT INSURANCE. "Everybody" doesn't get healthcare under Obamacare.

You get care under Obamacare only if you can pay for it.

[area51]

229. +1

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.

We don't need the GingrichCare of mandated, loosely regulated, for-profit insurance that is still too expensive, only pays parts of medical bills, denies claims, bankrupts and kills people.

[Unca Jim]

228. No shit!

A 1% increase in cost?

In a freaking second!

[mmonk]

248. Yes, anywhere except Papa John's.

[MrScorpio]

7. Right Wing flackery

Papa John is showing his inability to think outside of the pizza box.

[Broderick]

9. I always thought delivery from them was pretty

cheap to begin with. Dominoes and Chanellos too. Some of the store bought pizzas cost just as much and then you got to cook it and crap.

[hifiguy]

10. Who gives a hoot? I wouldn't eat his crappy pizza

unless I were starving. When the crave hits, I give my business to local pizzerias.

[pnwmom]

11. I would happily pay 20 cents more so their employees had health insurance.

It's a tiny fraction of what their overpriced pizzas cost.

[Justice wanted]

12. These Republican business owners that keep doing this stupid stuff like this end up

hurting the business --I personally believe. Complain that prices are going to go up because of the freakin draught most america is experiencing.


I don't find their pizza all that good and will not buy it nor Domino's

[TeamPooka]

14. Papa John's pizza sucks anyway

[LAGC]

256. You ain't kidding about that.

Tried them once and it was DISGUSTING, their sauce is just plain nasty.

I don't know how anyone eats there.

[uponit7771]

15. wooowwww, way to go for the short term profits there PJ. CFA isn't going to have the customer base..

...after all the kkkons are fatter and sleep to sustain the 1 - 3% drop in sales from people who wont eat there now and they're franchise small business owners who don't deserve what stupid ass'd cathy did

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. Are they so petty that pocket change like that matters?

I don't eat their pizza, but if I did what's wrong with paying a pittance more to ensure the workers are taken care of properly?

[Enrique]

17. so they are going from death panels

to 11 cents more for pizza?

[Curtland1015]

22. Who are they to decide which pizza lives and which pizza dies!?

Obama took mah pizza!

[Butterbean]

18. ZOMG NOOOOO!! It's a crisis!!!1111!!

[AsahinaKimi]

19. Papa John Pizza

will drop because smart people will ignore ordering it. Dominos can also die off for all I care.

[Betty Jo]

20. WHO OWNS ANOTHER FAMOUS PIZZA PLACE ?

Why it's Mitty!!!!!

[Scuba]

21. Scuba warns: Poppa John's lost my business for their reich-wing attitudes about six months ago.

[JohnnyRingo]

92. 1,000+ rec

I guess that partisan axe swings both ways, doesn't it?

I'll never understand the actions of what are supposed to be competent business owners who basically say they don't want certain people to buy their product. Didn't they cover this in business college?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

23. Nice to know how much you care about your employees' health

and your consumers.

[Yavin4]

70. He Wants The Public To Pick Up The Costs for Healthcare for His Employees

When his employees need healthcare, they will go to the emergency and get treatment which they won't be able to pay for because they are uninsured. That means that the public will have to pay for their care through higher premiums.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

105. Ah. Following the Wal-Mart model, are they?

[littlewolf]

222. actually anytime a business has an increase

in cost .... health care ... taxes .... supplies ... fuel ... etc
they will pass those costs onto the customer ....
business 101 ....

[Yavin4]

242. Yes, But Those Costs Are Limited to the Consumers of Those Businesses

Higher health care premiums due to paying for Pappa John's uninsured workers are spread among the entire public, not just Pappa John's customers.

I can avoid paying more for pizza if I want to, but I cannot avoid paying higher premiums.

Common fucking sense 101.

[littlewolf]

259. true the way I read the op

was that the price of pizza was going up
due to the cost of inusrance ...
If I misread it ... I am sorry ...

[Politicalboi]

24. Oh NO's

How will I feed myself if I have to pay an extra 20 cents? Gosh we wouldn't want the CEO to have to pay an extra $20,000 a year out of his bonus to help pay for his employees heath care, that would be selfish.

By the way, I have NEVER eaten a Papa John's pizza. Woe is me.

[WillParkinson]

25. We ate one...

Years ago. Bland. Uninspired. Crappy crust.

And those were the good points.

[Chorophyll]

26. I wonder how many emergency room visits

can be directly traced to Papa John's pizza. Just saying.

[tsuki]

84. Mine. I complained about it, and was offered the

next pizza FOR FREE. Told them with the emergency room visit, it was far from free.

[Chorophyll]

103. And here I thought I was making a joke!

Jeebus. Glad you lived to tell the tale!

[veganlush]

27. good. he can shove 'em up his ass

I wouldn't eat that shit anyway.

[Lex]

28. GLOBAL WARMING will cause food costs to go up. He's an idiot.

Global warming = food crop failure = higher food costs.

[democrat_patriot]

29. Papa would kill people to save 11 cents? Good to know.

If I were another chain I'd drop my price 15 cents per and state that I was saving lives in the process.

Give away pizza to hospitals etc...

[Confusious]

98. He kills people with that "pizza" of his

It makes me sick every time I eaten it. it's not becuase he's a reichwinger either.

It just makes me sick. And I take pride in my iron stomach.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

178. It almost always gives me the shits.

Stopped eating it along time ago ... and I have an iron stomach, too. I drink vinegar for the hell of it!

[MADem]

30. His pizza sucks. Acid-tomato on soggy cardboard.

Can't miss something you can't stand, so go cry to someone else, Papa John.

[stopbush]

31. Shit pizza. Who cares. Won't hurt my wallet.

[MadHound]

32. I don't eat that swill anyway,

So he can raise the price all he wants. Maybe his politics will finally put him out of business.

[kctim]

33. No one will notice PJ

Prices will go up across the board.

[standingtall]

205. Papa Johns Pizza will not go up,because of the affordable helth care law

That is a flat out lie. And even if it were true prices would still not go up, because they will do what they always do force their sub-minimum wage delivery drivers to work even further below minimum wage. What a piece of garbage.

[kctim]

247. What would you like to wager?

The ACA does not magically fund all the "free" stuff in it. The ACA does not magically fund coverage.
Premiums and taxes will go up.
If they go up, prices go up.

[RedStateLiberal]

34. How are Papa John's profits these days?

I'm guessing they're doing just fine. So, they'll increase prices just to keep them from making a little less profit. Pure greed! Plus, it's obvious this is politics from a known right-winger.

[LadyHawkAZ]

35. It's a good thing I don't eat PJ's crap then, isn't it?

There are a couple of local joints nearby that make actual pizza.

[atreides1]

36. I've ordered my last pizza from this hack!

His only concern is the shareholders, so he decides to punish the consumers and will probably piss down the back of his employees.

From here on we will only order pizza from local businesses...

[richmwill]

37. If only I weren't such a Papa John's fan...

Oh well, I won't mind paying extra.

[Curtland1015]

42. Wait... Obama KILLED Papa John!?

Murderer!

O-bama is a murderer!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

52. Seriously, DU Administrators?

Guy signs on with that handle and nobody see this coming?

[Curtland1015]

57. Cut 'em some slack... they're probably still trying to figure out what a "looser" is.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

67. True...

You can tell Teabaggers by their spelling.

[frylock]

145. i do believe that all mods are issued a dumbshit-to-english dictionary..

it helps with some of the translation.

[WillParkinson]

62. It's only been 12 minutes...

It takes at least 15 to warm up a pizza.

[hifiguy]

65. Speaking of pizzas....

[Enrique]

71. lol

[hlthe2b]

80. He registered at 12:36 and was banned by MIRT at 12:40-- four minutes later ...

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[Jeff In Milwaukee]

87. I was joking...

But seriously, what's the World and Olympic record for getting banned?

[hlthe2b]

96. Can be within seconds of registration, depending...

We do name nuke on occasion... but sometimes what seems obvious...may be less so after a little consideration. Mistakes can be made so MIRT still likes to get a little bit of consensus on these before preemptively nuking. No one wants to be responsible for accidentally blocking an "Alan Grayson" or some other prominent new member, after all.

[MatthewStLouis]

69. Wow, I'm converted!

...all your over the top, ridiculous, BS, graphics have changed my mind and converted me. I will definitely vote to give rich people more tax breaks! Makes perfect sense. Big soul-less corporations and Greed Over People businesses only have our best interests at heart, right?!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

89. Because he's just like a Nazi, you know...(nt)

[gademocrat7]

39. What a jerk.

His pizza is an epic fail.

[Zoeisright]

40. Papa John's pizza is crap.

So is Papa John.

[Hoyt]

41. Maybe it's time for shareholders to take a hit as well -- not just employees and consumers.

That assumes "Obamacare" actually increases poor ole Papa Johns' costs.

Heck, if we ate less of that crap, our health care costs would be more manageable (not to say I don't enjoy a good pizza every now and then).

[gollygee]

43. I'm not a fan anyway

but if I were, 15 to 20 cents wouldn't make a difference to me.

Edited to add: also, Republicans are a big fan of the law of supply and demand. He must know that he can charge whatever he wants and people will pay it if they think it's worth it and will pass it by if they don't.

[hughee99]

44. 15 Cents more a pizza?

If I had a pizza a day, EVERY DAY for a year it would amount to a whole $54.75 cents for health care, and I would probably need the health care since I'd be eating a pizza a day.

[Autumn]

45. Cool. Papa John Pizza sucks. They can go out of business for all I care

[rox63]

46. Buy from locally owned and operated pizza joints

They make the best pizza anyway. Who needs Papa John or Domino?

[Populist_Prole]

51. Precisely. Screw "Pizza Inc". Local is the way to go.

I guess I'm fortunate in that I was born and raised in an area full of "real" pizza made by mom & pop type places. Never heard or, much less tried chain garbage till I was well into my teens.

[gollygee]

53. Agree 100%

I have five favorite local pizza places. I have a hard enough time choosing between them. Papa John's is nowhere close.

[Betty Jo]

59. BAIN/ROMNEY/DOMINOES

A Bermuda secret bank account opened in1997 to buy Dominoes.

[RockaFowler]

81. Totally Agree

Better tasting pizza too!!

Gave up on Papa John's when I moved further north. The pizza we've been getting at the local Italian Restaurants is so much better - we never looked back.

[ieoeja]

118. A commonly heard phrase in Chicago, "why is there even a Domino's in this city?"

The answer would be because vistors know what they are getting. Which is understandable, if disappointing because that is some really shitty pizza compared to ...

...

...

... grocery store, frozen pizza!

Took me awhile to think of a pizza I've had worse than Domino's. Pizza Hut is roughly as bad, but no worse.

[jeff47]

134. Wish I could

But in this town, despite the very large Italian-American population, local pizza is awful. As in the cardboard box is better than the pizza, pasta and everything else they produce.

So it's make-our-own or Pizza Hut. Yay.

[eppur_se_muova]

236. Where do local Italian-Americans get good Italian food? Probably at home.

It's harder to find good Mexican food in TX than you might think, until you figure out that the best Mexican food is what the locals cook AT HOME.

[jeff47]

245. You'd think that. But they rave about how great the resturaunts are. (nt)

[EC]

47. People buy pizza that is made to be

cost efficient? Wow, how can that even compare to one made to taste good?

[Liberal Veteran]

48. You will conform and enjoy your cardboard and fake "cheese".

Elitist!

[truebrit71]

49. Dude, focus on making pizza that doesn't taste like ass and leave governing up to the adults...

Yes??

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

50. Utter Crap....and I'm not talking about his pizza

Individual franchisees will not be subject to any of the ACA requirements, as I can't imagine a Papa John's would employ more than 50 people. While it's true that some franchisees own multiple locations and the mandate might kick in, you're talking about something well less than a dollar per pie -- and every other pizza chain will be in the same situation, so it's not like Papa Johns will be at a strategic disadvantage (Pizza Hut and Domino's are in the same boat).

So bite me, Pizza Boy.

[Bonhomme Richard]

54. What a rube. This guy actually believes he is a Christian.

Guys like this make me want to puke.
What about your employees? You know, those people that make sure your stuff gets made and your customer is satisfied. Just another moneychanger. What a fucking creep.

[Bok_Tukalo]

56. So he keeps his prices 15 cents lower now out of the goodness of his heart?

If the market for his product could bear another 15 cents per order, he would be charging it.

I call bullshit.

[supernova]

58. Oh, promise!

Pappa John's is terrible pizza. It should go under. All the talented folks who work there can find other work in the food industry. This huckster deserves to live under a bridge. In the winter. With snow.

[southernyankeebelle]

60. Why aren't we surprised. That's ok I make great pizza. My momma taught me well.

I don't eat that much pizza any more. I make my sauce. My grandkids love what we call quick pizza. Slice bread put american or mozzarella cheese on the bread. Put sauce on top then put it in microwave. Take out and sprinkle Parmesan cheese on top and enjoy. I usually make it for a snack when they come home from school. Just enough to hold they off til dinner. Quick and easy and better then any pizza joint.

[myrna minx]

61. Truly these are the end of days.

[WI_DEM]

63. Hey 'papa' I won't be buying your crappy pizza anyway.

and F--- you share holders.

[Yavin4]

64. How Much Would It Cost Us If Papa John's Employees Weren't Insured?

When one of his workers gets pregnant, has a car accident, injures him/herself on the job, breaks a leg, develop diabetes, etc., who pays for their care? The people with insurance do. The companies that do provide insurance to their employees do through higher premiums because health care providers have to charge more to make up for their losses treating Papa John's employees with no health insurance.

Schnatter wants the public to pay for his employees healthcare which would save him millions because he doesn't provide it to his employees. He's a typical corporate welfare queen.

Sorry, but I would rather pay that $.15 more for a pizza than to pay thousands more in health insurance premiums.

[HughBeaumont]

66. Go host another fund-raiser for Mitt Momjeans, Sloppa John.

Sell that "I hate Social Services" bullshit to your fellow 1%ers who have zilch to worry about as far as health care goes. The rest of us get crumbs so you still have your mansions.



















For now . . .

[kestrel91316]

72. If he in fact will be providing GOOD health insurance to his employees,

I'd be HAPPY to pay a little more for his mediocre pizza.

I give it even odds that prices will be raised FAR more than healthcare costs warrant, however.

[cottonseed]

73. Chilling

Not.

Nobody gives a shit about the cost of pizza. It's a commodity.

[Skidmore]

75. Republicans/business are extorting Americans to get what they want--

power and wealth.

[IggleDoer]

77. If all Pappa John's employees had health insurance...

... Less employees would come to work with unidentified communicable diseases, like hepatitis. The public would be better protected and less people would sue Pappa Johns for their liability in spreading disease through their crappy pizzas. Papa John's would save money in the long run and could lower their prices.

[SDjack]

185. Maybe Papa does not want his employees to be healthy.

That could cause them to live longer, demand raises, and eventually want retirement benefits.

[SoCalDem]

78. So, Extortion is now a topping?

Without customers, who needs stockholders?

[HockeyMom]

79. Republican controlled Florida Public School District

I saw my health insurance go from free health insurance with a $400 deductible (bad compared to NYS) to costing $160 a month with a $3,500 deductible. I quit working there. My husband's private employer insurance is bad too ($125/month with $2,500 deductible), but not as bad as this.

Look at where you live and WHO is in control there. The "Red Sates" are far worse.

I shudder to think what Romney as President would do.

[TwilightGardener]

83. I've already boycotted them, for sucking. Would that I could boycott twice over.

[Riley18]

85. Once he supported Romney, I finally

decided to only buy pizzas from local pizzerias. The pizza is edible, and it helps local business. To think that "Papa" John could live in such an oversize house, and seek to destroy health care for people should be a crime.

What he said is cause for a boycott.

[KansDem]

86. Never ate a Papa John's pizza...

I just assumed it tasted like Godfathers (which I last ate 20 years ago): Ketchup on a piece of cardboard.

[Fawke Em]

88. But Obamacare will save money if people stop eating so much

fattening, nasty-tasting pizza!

Sounds like a win/win for the consumer, if you ask me!

[JohnnyRingo]

90. ...and we'll have no choice but to pay it.

Hahahahaha

Go ahead Papa J, make my day and raise your price to $50 a pizza.

Such hollow threats from a right wing second rate pizza chain owner mean nothing to me, and if there's someone out there who will base their vote on the cost of a pizza, they'll need the mental health care the ACA provides.

[xchrom]

91. I don't eat corporate pizza. So I don't give a flying fuck, papa whatever. Nt

[we can do it]

93. Not at my favorite hometown place, which still costs half as much as PJ's shittza

who cares about his shitty overpriced cardboard?

[CBGLuthier]

94. Terrible Sauce.

I get my pizza from the locally owned immigrants and it beats PJ's to hell and back.

[Ilsa]

102. It's sweeter than other sauces. nt

[jillan]

95. His business is hurting because his pizza sucks & he is looking for his Chick-fil-a moment.

That's my guess.

But what I really want to know is what is up with their dipping sauce?
It's like flavored melted plastic - disgusting!!!

[madokie]

97. F papa John anyway

Pizza is over priced as it is so we don't eat much pizza

[Blue Owl]

100. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE BU$H YEARS

During which the cost of pizza (and gas and groceries and everything else) went up several dollars, not a few cents.

[SDjack]

101. PJ's pizza is the worst. I make a pizza with lower cost, faster,

more nutritious, and taste better than PJ's at home. And, it doesn't smell like cardboard.

[irisblue]

226. will you deliver or give us your recipe?

they were close, coupon cheap and now that I know this, we will never eat there again

[SDjack]

252. Yes. Better still, I will have you over for marsh fishing and then pizza. Here

is the basic recipe that I use:

http://www.mexgrocer.com/284-chilelimepizza.html]

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Easy to mod to make shrimp, vegetarian, etc. Try it -- you will like it.

[muntrv]

104. Like your crappy pizza was already cheap before ACA.

You're scraping the bottom with Dominos and Godfathers.

[Panasonic]

106. PJ has gone into the shitter

and we go to Marco's Pizza. http://www.marcospizza.com/

It's not bad, but I'd prefer Extreme Pizza http://www.extremepizza.com

PJ used to be on our pizza list, but that ended more than 9 months ago.

[RoccoR5955]

107. I bet the former Pizza mogol, Herman Cain put him up to it! n/t

[Lint Head]

108. I like thin crust better than rising.

[RedCappedBandit]

109. Cool. I don't eat their shit "pizza" anyway. nt

[spanone]

110. what about your employees...seems papa don't give a shit about them...hello dominos

[JoePhilly]

112. Papa John's is an affront to Pizza.

[KurtNYC]

113. Oh really? Well Romney wants you to buy your own "roads and bridges"

How much will that add to the cost of your crap pizza?

[frylock]

114. i get my pies from Marechiaro's in El Cajon; est. 1955..

so papa john splatter can jam that precious 14 cents up his ass.

[Liberal In Texas]

115. I used to order it a few times a year....

but not since PJ popped his greasy head up and started shilling for the repukes.

No loss.

[nc4bo]

116. Gonna need Obamacare for heart surgery after eating too much Papa John's.

He should be praising it - it'll ultimately keep his workers alive to serve more pizza and his customers alive so they can keep eating it.

FU Papi.

[benld74]

117. When Cardinal's win, he sells them for 40% OFF!!!!!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

183. Damn, I'm a Rangers fan. Exhilarating series, though.

[benld74]

244. Just beat Anaheim, will ya!??

[Fantastic Anarchist]

264. We split the series.

They're 7 games back even though we have been playing horribly for two months. Not a Pujols fan, eh?

[benld74]

265. Out yougest still is,,,

wife and I just feel,
1. he has a very large chip on his shoulder for some reason
2. his wife played a part in his decision
3. nobody is worth that kinda money
4. if someone says they want to be a Cardinal for life and that its not about the money they mean it
5. his ego is Waaaaaay bigger than anything he does at the plate

[Fantastic Anarchist]

267. Agreed. Just wish the Angels didn't have him. ;)

[progressivebydesign]

122. Corporate Ass: "pass that cost onto consumers in order to protect our shareholders best interests"

Yep.. it's ALL about your shareholder. NOT your employees, not your customers, just your fucking shareholders. Your pizza absolutely SUCKS, and even tho you keep sending me free coupons, I'll never use them.

Shareholders in a pizza company? Really? Yeah.. bet the products are very high quality. not.

[Motown_Johnny]

123. Papa John's pizza sucks, I had one because of a coupon and still it was a waste

Screw him.

[arely staircase]

124. 11 to 14¢ a pizza for minimum wage workers to have healthcare?

That is probably one of the best selling points for the ACA I have heard. That's the big burden on businesses and "job creators"?

[Avalux]

125. Crappy pizza. Who cares. n/t

[progressivebydesign]

126. BTW- Round Table is 100% employee owned.

Their corporate has instituted a Community Service program for their employees, so they can give back to the community. They donate to the Children's Hospital in Oakland. I'd rather my money go there than any of these places like Papa Johns, Dominos, or Pizza Hut.

If you don't have a local pizza place that you can patronize, i'd probably go with Round Table.

[frylock]

146. round table is the best chain pizza out there imho..

Mountain Mike's is very similar to RT, and i'll hit them up periodically. was not aware that RT was employee-owned. good info!

[NRaleighLiberal]

127. crappy pizza. ho hum.

[mysuzuki2]

128. I will gladly pay 20 cents more for a pizza if he will insure all his employees.

It will probably be cheaper in the long run than paying for their medicaid and/or uninsured ER care.

[ghurley]

243. +1

[Hissyspit]

129. So, what to take away from this: "Papa" John is an misleading asshole.

Good to know.

[Mutt22]

130. I haven't bought a Papa John's pizza in awhile.

The last few times, it tasted like some of the ingredients were frozen. There's a lot of better pizzas out there.

[matt819]

131. The price of mozzarella cheese is likely to increase pizza prices more than health care

At 14 cents per order - not per pizza, but per order - and assuming an average order of $25, that amounts to a grand total of a fraction of 1 percent. An increase in Schnatter's pay is likely to have a greater impact on price. Or, with the drought, the price of mozzarella cheese is likely to have a greater impact.

But this guy's a republican, so we know that if he opens his mouth, he's lying.

[swayne]

133. THE BOX TASTES BETTER THAN THAT RIGHT-WING PIZZA SLOP!!

F*** PAPA JOHN.

[lame54]

135. So instaed of charging $9.99 for a pizza...

They're going to charge $10.13?

[DirkGently]

137. They could just shrink the size of their pizzas, like they did when I

stopped ordering from them, six or seven years ago. Think the "large" went from 16 to 14."

[begin_within]

138. So junk food is now a political tool.

[gulliver]

139. Schnatter wants to be in politics instead of the pizza business I guess

Used to order a lot of pizza from Papa John's, but I've decided that I don't want to subsidize Schnatter's propaganda. I buy things from Republicans, of course. I just don't like Schnatter deciding he wants to be the Fox News of pizza all of a sudden.

Also, I have to admit, I'm annoyed by his ads. He'll hire some super popular pro athlete, put him in a commercial, and then stand in front of him. I think that's the kind of guy he is.

[tammywammy]

141. Wait, it only cost 20 cents per pizza to give employees health insurance?

At such a low per unit cost, why isn't he already doing it? I'd happily pay that and more.

[ibegurpard]

171. yeah no shit

[Beartracks]

180. +1000 n/t

[jtuck004]

142. Okee dokee

http://www.pizzamaking.com/thincrust.php

Better than anything I've had the misfortune to eat when I used to go to the chains.

For those that still eat yours, you should still be providing decent medical care, and if it costs a little more, that's fine.

[craigmatic]

143. Don't eat at Papa Johns or Dominos the guys who own them are republicans besides Little Caesar's is

the common man's pizza anyway.

[Ian David]

144. Imagine there's no pizza...

[hatrack]

150. Oh no! Shitty pizza might go up 15 cents, and it's ALL OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[smirkymonkey]

169. Damn, now I won't be able to afford to eat Papa John's Pizza!!

Oh, wait, I never did anyway. Because it sucks! He could lower the prices by 50% and I still wouldn't go there if I were starving. A**hole.

[nadinbrzezinski]

151. Drought you idiot

[Aviation Pro]

152. Yet another reason....

...not to buy his shitty, fucking pizza.

Anthony's rules.

[bookman]

153. What? ................

Papa Johns is a pizza place! Not even close.

[Sick of the GOP]

154. Tried Papa John's once...

Worst pizza I ever had. Domino's, Little Caesars, Even Pizza Hut is fine, but I was shocked at just how bad Papa John's was. Better ingredients, not necessarily a better pizza.

[Don C. Nuttin]

155. Stop the presses!

That Papa John’s does not prioritize providing medical care to sickly employees who handle food seems like startling information to publicize. Or is it me?

[Laurian]

167. Good point!

[mfcorey1]

156. Their pizzas are crappy anyway!

[maxrandb]

157. Good

the only reason people eat your crappy cardboard covered with ketchup and milkfat shit-stain of a "pizza" is because it's cheap. Raise you're fucking prices and it will finally give people an opportunity and an incentive to try "Good" pizza at the local mom and pop shops.

[JonLP24]

158. He's so full of shit

The market dictates the price. If no one buys his piece of shit pizza, he'll lower the price to attract customers.

[berni_mccoy]

162. Bwahahaha! Obamacare reduces health care costs by making Fast Food Pizza more expensive!

Fast Food Pizza laden with HFCS is part of the problem so many people are unhealthy.

[JI7]

163. He is lying, there doesn't seem to be a Set Price for Papa Johns Pizzas

at least theones in my area it seems like they are always offering discounts to try to get people to go in and buy.

i once ordered online because of some discount. when i went to pick it up they were advertising an even better discount .

and unlike Chick Fila where the food is at least good. PApa johns really isn't that great. and most places you can probably find some indie place that sells something much better.

[WinstonSmith4740]

164. It's all bullshit...

Including the pizza.

Papa John's CEO John Schnatter says that Obamacare will result in a $0.11 to $0.14 price increase per pizza, or $0.15 to $0.20 cents per order,

First of all, if his cost goes up $0.11 to $0.14/pizza, he'll raise the price by at least a buck, and put the balance in his pocket.

Secondly, here's my recipe for pizza dough. It's easy, fun, and a great way to get everyone working in the kitchen together. Add a bottle of wine, and you're off!! This will make about 4 12" rounds with a thin crust, or a couple of standard rectangle cookie sheets. It can be halved easily.

5 cups flour
2 packets dry yeast (don't be afraid...it's easy to work with)
2 cups warm water
1 teaspoon salt
about 1 teaspoon olive oil (If you use anything but extra virgin, I will hunt you down and hurt you)

Add the yeast to the warm water with a pinch of sugar and allow to "proof" (it'll get a layer of foam...takes a few minutes). Put the flour in a large bowl, and add the water/yeast mixture. Mix it together with a fork until it gets too stiff to stir, then turn it out onto a floured board and start to knead. (Take off your rings, and keep your hands floured!) Keep flour nearby to add as needed. It starts out really "ragged" but will start to pull together after a couple of minutes. Add the salt at this point, and keep kneading. (Great therapy after a tough day!) When it's fairly soft and smooth, and "bounces back" if you press your finger into it lightly, it's ready to rise. Put a little olive oil in a bowl that's about twice the size of the ball of dough, roll the dough in it so it's coated, cover the bowl with plastic wrap, and put it in a warm place to raise for about 45 minutes. Go have a glass of wine. When it's about twice it's original size, punch it down and roll out. Lightly flour the pans, or (ideally) use a pizza stone. I don't use sauce...I cut up Italian style plum tomatoes and use them. DON"T use regular tomatoes...they're too watery. Add whatever toppings you want (don't forget oregano!), put it in a 450 oven for about 20 minutes, depending on how thick you rolled the crust. I also pre-bake the crust for about 5 minutes before adding the toppings to keep the crust from getting soggy.

I've always done it by hand, but if you have a bread machine, I'm sure it'll work just fine. I suggest you try it at least once before springing it on friends you're having over for dinner, but you'll never go back to delivery again.

Buon appetito!

[Odin2005]

165. WAAAAAAAAAH!!! Fuck you, John.

[ashling]

166. I might consider purchasing one of their shit pies if ...

on second thought ..... DiGiorno's anyone?

[jmowreader]

168. Is anyone actually going to notice a 15-cent increase in the price?

Shit, guys, the SALES TAX on one of his pizzas is more than that.

And seriously, folks: if a 15-cent increase in the price of a pizza keeps you from affording pizza, you couldn't afford pizza in the first place.

[ibegurpard]

170. so what?

[alcibiades_mystery]

172. People will pay more for your supremely shitty ketchup-cheese product-dough

Who gives a fuck? Maybe they'll take the cost savings and make their own actual, y'know, pizza.

[datasuspect]

173. he wants his cut of some hate fil a intolerance dollars

fuck this motherfucker. their pizza is pure shit anyway.

[marble falls]

174. Fine. First no more Chic-Fil-A. Now no more Papa John or Taco Johns. My health may improve!

[Stainless]

175. Never have had a Papa John's

and never will now that I know his politics.

[sakabatou]

176. *facepalm*

[Fantastic Anarchist]

177. Shittier Pizza, Shittier Owner ... Papa Johns.

Fuck him and his pizza that, without fail, always leaves me clamoring for the shitter.

[Beartracks]

179. Prices will go up due to drought, but you'll blame Obamacare?

Your prerogative, Papa John. And people will buy your competitors' pizza, and the market will speak.

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[sendero]

181. Is that the..

... sugar in the crust, sugar in the sauce, sugar in the fucking cheese pizza?

How can anyone EAT that crap? Even Domino is better.

I really don't give two fucks what this idiot thinks.

[shanti]

184. their tomato sauce covered cardboard

is the worst "pizza" out there, so who gives a shit?

[SDjack]

186. I'm sending Gov. Christy (R-NJ) a large "garbage heap" IF

he is selected to be rMoney's VP nominee.

[L0oniX]

187. ...and prices will rise to pay for Papa Johns mansion....

[ellenfl]

188. i guess i will add papa john to my boycott list. it's getting longer. eom

[Ikonoklast]

189. And not one fuck shall be given.

Just another 1%er who made a fortune off of cheap labor.

[customerserviceguy]

190. I guess I'm lucky

I live in an area with fantastic pizza, and have a favorite local restaurant that my lady and I visit once a week, so I never have to buy a Papa John's pizza ever again.

[movingviolation]

191. Fuck you Papa John!

I actually don't eat your crappy pie, especially since I found out you threw that fundraiser for Rmoney. When I want a pizza, I much prefer a mom 'n' pop place, right around the corner .Bite me, I vote with my wallet.

[Monk06]

192. Papa John Schnaater is a big Romney fundraiser. This is not about health care or pizza.

Romney at Papa John's house.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/video/mitt-romney-speaks-at-papa-john-schnatters-house-517355343/

[BREMPRO]

201. of course it is! pure politics.. i remember romney even metioned Papa Johns in a speech referring to

"small business" just after this fundraiser..a shameless plug for his donor... and you know , he's championing your average homegrown mom and pop corporate chain designed for shareholder profit over wages for workers and quality for consumers! It's Romneyville ...

[Monk06]

208. Papa John's small business is 3200 franchises. He's worth $420 million and owns two sports teams.

His is also in the JC Hall of fame. (the youth wing of the American Chamber of Commerce). He is also ranked 16th in Forbes richest under 40 yo American businessmen. This makes him a rock star to the ACC and other RW orgs.

So this is just part of the Chick-fil-A, Obama is an America hating Marxist Kenyan, bisexual, Moslem, coke addict, who doesn't believe in American Exeptionalism, RW strategery.

Same hymn different singer.

[fortyfeetunder]

195. Papa John: there is also freedom of choice

So I can choose to get my pizza elsewhere...

[miyazaki]

197. So drop the price already. Their pizza is a rip-off as it is.

Godamn Bastard.

[kxs]

198. Go Ahead,

Please - raise it several dollars and feel free to blame Obama. The fewer people there are eating your food, the better off USA (and the world) is - so we will all then thank Obama for making the world healthier (and better).

[Beartracks]

199. First Chick-Fil-A, now Papa John's?! Where will I go for fine dining now???

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[B Calm]

200. Be a cold day in hell before I go to a Papa Johns!

[Brigid]

249. There's always Denny's. Or IHOP.

[Deep13]

202. NO!!!!!!!!

How will I afford crappy, tasteless, mass-produced pizzas now?!

[Kennah]

203. The price of Papa John's pizzas will go much higher ...

... when fewer people are buying from that douche. Piss off, asshat!

[magic59]

204. Eating a Papa John Pizza is the original death panel

who can eat that crap?

[quinnox]

206. Well, if it taste just as bad or worse than that shit known as Dominoes Pizza...

then truly, this is an argument in favor of Obamacare! If this leads to some Papa Johns going out of business. Really, wtf is the deal with right wingers and shitty pizza? Are they trying to make people hate pizza?

[Bombero1956]

207. I for one am extremely happy that they failed to make a go in this area

We had 4-5 Papa Johns in the immediate area about 10 years ago but they failed to catch on and closed up shop.

[klook]

209. Without Papa John's Pizza, diabetes and heart disease rates would drop

-- therefore making health care more affordable in any scenario.

[Piazza Riforma]

210. Never cared much for Papa John's Pizza

It seems I'm not the only one who thinks they have a sugar fetish. Get our pies from a local mom 'n' pop pizzeria that has tasty pizza at good prices.

[IndyJones]

211. Which is brilliantly offset by the reduction in healthcare costs because less peeps eat there!

Thank you, Papa John's!

[caseymoz]

212. Let's see: a buck more for a pizza

. . . or a $5,800 for the ER visit after PJ's pizza gives me food poisoning.

Seems like an easy comparison.

[RandiFan1290]

214. I prefer Papa Karlson's

[mmonk]

215. Scratch off Papa John's.

Their sauce gives me heartburn anyway. Anyone know if their pizza is served in opther countries and how expensive is it?

[adicortez]

216. Go ahead Papa!

Go ahead and add all the costs you want, Papa John. Ask netflix and Bank of America how that worked out for them.

[Festivito]

217. Would the highly trained CBO know more than Papa John?

Yeah, right.

[bullwinkle428]

218. Papa John's isn't even the best chain pizza starting with "Papa"!

That honor goes to Papa Murphy's (take and bake)!

[DemForLife]

219. No Worries...

My husband and I owned and operated a successful Baskin-Robbins in our small town for almost 14 years. We never discussed any political ties or preferences around clientele. Papa John is an imbecile for doing so. I used to enjoy an occasional pizza from that chain. I will never patronize this place again. I don't think Obamacare should be his #1 concern. I do however think he is going to lose massive business over his now public support for the 1% in this country at the expense of people who actually have to work for a living. I really feel sorry for his employees having to work for such a rich suckup synchophant.

[freedom fighter jh]

220. They will.

And if Obamacare gets repealed, they will still.

Drought -> more expensive corn -> more expensive dairy feed -> more expensive pizza

[Romulox]

224. Mandatory, for profit health insurance is an AWFUL idea. It was awful when it was "Romneycare".

It's awful now, as "Obamacare".

[Bluenorthwest]

225. The pizza we eat is already more expensive than John's because we eat good pizza....

nt

[abelenkpe]

230. W00t!

Guess what pizza no one in my family will ever buy?

[hedgehog]

231. It's a win-win: Fewer pizzas, healthier people!

[Flashmann]

232. Papa John=

Cardboard and catsup with genuine imitation cheese........It could be $100 a slice or free,and I'd eat the same amount either way...None!!

[FloriTexan]

233. Good...

Last night we ordered pizza from Pappa Johns and I gave the delivery girl an extra large tip and asked her to pass along to her boss that I'd be happy to pay a little more for pizza so she could have health insurance under Obamacare.

[FedUpWithIt All]

234. I'd rather pay a little more for pizza than to go another year without quality insurance.

Seriously, big picture is so hard for some.

[Amaril]

235. Yeah, I don't eat his cardboard pizza, so............

.....no skin off my front if he raises his prices.

I do appreciate that he has let everyone know that his shareholders are WAY more important to him than the people who actually consume his product / put the money IN his pocket that he gets to share with his shareholders. Idiot.

[jimmydwight]

237. Glad to hear that. I will not

buy pizza or do business with them from now on.

[librechik]

238. Gee--I suppose I'll take my Pizza Business Elsewhere!

douche

[RedstDem]

239. I would buy 1 pizza a week from papa to get healthcare for us all

I would throw it in the trash, out of self preservation, but i still would buy one even for 15 to 20 more cents.....

that dude aint none bright too much !!!
lol

[Beacool]

240. Noooooo, no one touches my pizza and lives to see the light of day!!!

Them are fighting words!!!!!!!

[dtom67]

241. maybe ...( NOT)....

Maybe the price of Poo-Poo John's pizza is going up because of all the money the Owner wasted donating to the Romney Campaign? Remember the fundraising party?

betcha Poo-poo John wishes he had that money back.


And, yeah...

His pizza sucks like a black hole in space...

[HenryWallace]

246. Belief in "Market Forces?"

I don't get it!

These guys have unquestioning faith that forces of supply and demand will always product the optimum results.

They then make statements like this basically saying that:

I can make a unilateral price increase and pass my operating cost rises on to the consumer. If he can really do this, it evidence that markets do not operate efficiently (i.e., it is not supply and demand that determines price but rather something else - at least in the short-run).

His true "warning" should be that most wealthy individuals know that the system doesn't work well in the short-run and exploiting these weaknesses in the systems allows them to accumulate massive amounts of capital.

[Downtown Hound]

250. OH MY GOD! 15 to 20 cents more???

What horror!

Is it humanly possible for rich, conservative CEO's to be bigger crybabies?

[Champion Jack]

251. Their pizza sucks anyway...

[Lost-in-FL]

253. Shit cheap pizza a few cents more expensive.

You gotta be that arrogant to think your pizza is that good. I get mine from local, small business which are not as cheap as his crap but better and more satisfying.

[Lost-in-FL]

254. btw...

what's with shitty pizza and republicans?

[Bonobo]

255. That stuff is pizza like canned tuna is sushi-quality maguro. nt

[Beartracks]

257. Here's a picture for ya!

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[WillParkinson]

260. Yeah, won't do Domino's either...

I'll just go with my local Classic Slice pizza.

[Beartracks]

266. LOL - Well, I needed a recognizable competitor on it. :)

I agree that any locally-made pizza is way better than any mega-chain's.

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[Doremus]

258. You've gotten your last dime from me, hope you enjoyed it. nt

[era veteran]

261. As a Kentucky Italian Restaurateur

His shit sucks.
Buy from Independent restaurants, not from chains.

[Solly Mack]

263. Piffle.

There's a pizza price war going on now that has nothing to do with Obamacare. A slump in consumer spending is the main reason.

As long as one major pizza chain is willing to offer a 10 (or even 12) dollar pizza, the others will follow...regardless of Obamacare.