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We have to be nice to Trump to avoid war, says the Nation (Original Post) bluedye33139 Jul 2018 OP
Weird stuff going on at .The Nation EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #1
Katrina Vanden Huevel married this Russia apologist and has let him take over the Nation hlthe2b Jul 2018 #2
"Trump's critics have become our number one national security threat"? dalton99a Jul 2018 #9
JHC.. this is shocking to me.. since I haven't paid Cha Jul 2018 #40
Argh....I used to really like Katrina Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #18
Yep. They are Russian funded now as I understand it underpants Jul 2018 #26
WOW ... The Nation is all in for appeasement. Zoonart Jul 2018 #3
Confusing, but the article is published in RW The Hill. The Trumpy prof. maybe an occasional Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #5
Cohen's history is pro-Kremlin always. bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #17
If you think that you haven't been paying attention Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #20
Yup... Katrina has allowed him to destroy the legacy of the Nation. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #22
I do not burn the book because one page is crinkled. Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #25
The nation does not publish explicitly pro-trump articles bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #29
It's not one page that's crinkled; it's part of a larger problem Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #36
t-rump is gonna start some kind of major conflict no matter what. Iliyah Jul 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #6
Cohen forgot to say that Putin was extremely strong and powerful dalton99a Jul 2018 #7
Remember the Ukrainian stuff? bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #16
Yep. He's really a Make Russia Great Again guy dalton99a Jul 2018 #24
"We have pee tapes in our time!" struggle4progress Jul 2018 #8
What a BS choice!! Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #10
The Nation has the worst politics re Russia. Since the outset they have been active denialists. nt FreepFryer Jul 2018 #11
Such a bullshit choice. Impeachment equals war??? I don't think so. Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #12
Unsubbed them bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author dawg Jul 2018 #13
BY saying things like this trump duforsure Jul 2018 #14
NO THANKS Takket Jul 2018 #19
I change the channel when Katrina shows up. nt Ilsa Jul 2018 #21
So, extortion it is, is it? Hugin Jul 2018 #23
Like an idiot, I read lots of trumpette tweets, and this is the number one reason for treason: Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #27
And it's such a weird new talking point bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #28
GOP: "You're a warmonger if you're against us making money selling the country to Russia" dalton99a Jul 2018 #32
I recall seeing claims that Hillary would get us into a nuclear war with Russia if she won. Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #37
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #30
Seriously? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #35
Stephen Cohen, Katrina VandenHuevel's husband appears on Tucker Carlson's show now and then. octoberlib Jul 2018 #31
Cohen is despicable: dalton99a Jul 2018 #33
This is nuts. If you google him, he's been on Fox News a lot. octoberlib Jul 2018 #34
Pick the bigger troll, The Nation or The Hill? blogslut Jul 2018 #38
It's Putin shill Stephen Cohen who says that oberliner Jul 2018 #39

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
1. Weird stuff going on at .The Nation
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:44 AM
Jul 2018

Something odd is going on with the editor and her husband and their Russian proclivities.

hlthe2b

(102,200 posts)
2. Katrina Vanden Huevel married this Russia apologist and has let him take over the Nation
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:44 AM
Jul 2018

I want nothing to do with that legacy progressive publication until he is GONE for the pages.
Despicable.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
9. "Trump's critics have become our number one national security threat"?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jul 2018

Yeah, The Nation has gone full Russian

Cha

(297,090 posts)
40. JHC.. this is shocking to me.. since I haven't paid
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jul 2018

attention to the Nation when they started dissing President Obama.

I liked them during the bush coup.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Confusing, but the article is published in RW The Hill. The Trumpy prof. maybe an occasional
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jul 2018

opinion "columnist" in The Nation, but clearly this is not the opinion of The a Nation for appeasement by any means.

Bradshaw3

(7,505 posts)
20. If you think that you haven't been paying attention
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:28 AM
Jul 2018

Besides pieces by Pution apologist Cohen the Nation has posted debunked articles on the supposed inability of eastern European countries' servers to support the kind of cuberwarefare conducted by Russian agents. It has been going on for years and clearly Cohen is either compromised or an outright agent. Van den Heuvel promised an investigation of the debunked pieces but it was just a cover-up. Until it gets new leadership the Nation is either irrelevant or dangerous at this point.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. I do not burn the book because one page is crinkled.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:59 PM
Jul 2018

Here is the link to the site...how many pro-Trump articles do you see...?? Go fish!


https://www.thenation.com/

Bradshaw3

(7,505 posts)
36. It's not one page that's crinkled; it's part of a larger problem
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

that is part of the attack on our country. And it has nothing to do with pro-trump articles, so that deflection won't work. It is about the publisher and her putin-apologist husband who are running it.

Here are Nation articles on:

supposed "Russiaphobic insanity" we as a country are undergoing:
https://www.thenation.com/article/amid-russiagate-hysteria-what-are-the-facts/

"Russiagate is more fiction than fact"
https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-is-more-fiction-than-fact/

Here's van den Heuvel's attempt to downplay the attack on our country:
https://www.thenation.com/article/on-russia-we-need-more-reason-and-less-frenzy/

Here's one blaming - get this, Democrats, for the hack, or as the writer calls it, a leak by the Dems:
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

None of those even include the work of Cohen, who has done more damage than anyone, but here's a quote from Cohen himself: "The number-one threat to the United States today," Cohen told Fox News, is the continuing investigation of Trump’s ties to Russia: "There is no evidence there was any wrongdoing."

There are many, many more examples I could use but I'll let you go fish for them. I had a subscription to the Nation for almost 30 years. It is compromised today, no matter how hard that is for some people to admit.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. t-rump is gonna start some kind of major conflict no matter what.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jul 2018

The evangelist demands it - "end times".

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
16. Remember the Ukrainian stuff?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jul 2018

Cohen said that we should not defend the Ukraine because there were some antigay people living there. He literally was pushing for an invasion of the Ukraine by Russia!

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
10. What a BS choice!!
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:04 AM
Jul 2018

So it's either purse an investigation of Trump's Russian collusion or war with Russia?? What a ridiculous claim and "The Nation" should be ashamed for reprinting this drivel.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
12. Such a bullshit choice. Impeachment equals war??? I don't think so.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jul 2018

I've noticed that Trump supporters do this a lot. They present two choices at extreme opposite ends and try and make it seem like they are the only two out there, and if you are for or against one then you are for or against the other. It's an intellectually dishonest trap that, unfortunately, they get away with far too often.

We can impeach Trump, impose greater sanctions on Russia, do to Russia what they're doing to us, by which I mean covertly support dissident elements in the country in an attempt to undermine Putin's regime, and still avoid war. And anyone who tells you differently is, quite simply, lying.

As for The Nation printing this drivel, it's what I've come to expect from them and one of the reasons I quit reading it over a decade ago.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
15. Unsubbed them
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jul 2018

My mom and I were just talking about this earlier in the week. We both had subscriptions to the Nation and we both cancelled them after a few issues. The relentless and hateful hostile tone toward moderate or centrist Democrats was outrageous.

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. BY saying things like this trump
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jul 2018

Is actually threatening us with war on us, and putin is the one trump will allow to do something to us with. Along with the republicans help in Congress, then claim its others , and others fault, again. He 's a corrupt crook and a puppet for putin now. So is the republican party enabling this to continue.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
27. Like an idiot, I read lots of trumpette tweets, and this is the number one reason for treason:
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jul 2018

“WE’RE GONNA HAVE A NUCLEAR WAR WITH RUSSIA IF WE DON’T BE NICE TO PUTIN!!!1!!”



It’s a brand new talking point, was NEVER an issue before Monday’s Helsinki sellout, and the whole gang is repeating it endlessly

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
37. I recall seeing claims that Hillary would get us into a nuclear war with Russia if she won.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jul 2018

I remember seeing relief on JPR at Trump's election, because at least he wouldn't get us into this alleged war, so some variant of the talking point has been around for awhile.

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
31. Stephen Cohen, Katrina VandenHuevel's husband appears on Tucker Carlson's show now and then.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jul 2018

I canceled my subscription a couple years ago and I'm glad I did.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
33. Cohen is despicable:
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jul 2018
Putin is also “the least authoritarian” Russian ruler “in centuries,” he explained. None of this is Putin’s fault anyway: “He did not create this Ukrainian crisis,” noted Cohen. “It was imposed on him and he had no choice to react.”

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-vladimir-putin-fan-club/

blogslut

(37,997 posts)
38. Pick the bigger troll, The Nation or The Hill?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jul 2018

Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband can go pound sand. At least The Hill doesn't pretend to be a liberal publication.

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