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Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:41 AM

We have to be nice to Trump to avoid war, says the Nation

We must acquiesce to the Kremlin and its attack on our country, says the Nation.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/398198-the-nation-contributor-trump-critics-would-rather-impeach-than-avoid-war

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Reply We have to be nice to Trump to avoid war, says the Nation (Original post)
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 OP
EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #1
hlthe2b Jul 2018 #2
dalton99a Jul 2018 #9
Cha Jul 2018 #40
Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #18
underpants Jul 2018 #26
Zoonart Jul 2018 #3
Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #5
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #17
Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #20
hlthe2b Jul 2018 #22
Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #25
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #29
Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #36
Iliyah Jul 2018 #4
Name removed Jul 2018 #6
dalton99a Jul 2018 #7
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #16
dalton99a Jul 2018 #24
struggle4progress Jul 2018 #8
Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #10
FreepFryer Jul 2018 #11
Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #12
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #15
dawg Jul 2018 #13
duforsure Jul 2018 #14
Takket Jul 2018 #19
Ilsa Jul 2018 #21
Hugin Jul 2018 #23
Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #27
bluedye33139 Jul 2018 #28
dalton99a Jul 2018 #32
Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #37
Post removed Jul 2018 #30
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #35
octoberlib Jul 2018 #31
dalton99a Jul 2018 #33
octoberlib Jul 2018 #34
blogslut Jul 2018 #38
oberliner Jul 2018 #39

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:44 AM

1. Weird stuff going on at .The Nation

Something odd is going on with the editor and her husband and their Russian proclivities.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:44 AM

2. Katrina Vanden Huevel married this Russia apologist and has let him take over the Nation

I want nothing to do with that legacy progressive publication until he is GONE for the pages.
Despicable.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:01 AM

9. "Trump's critics have become our number one national security threat"?

Yeah, The Nation has gone full Russian

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:27 PM

40. JHC.. this is shocking to me.. since I haven't paid

attention to the Nation when they started dissing President Obama.

I liked them during the bush coup.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:14 AM

18. Argh....I used to really like Katrina

I guess love “trumped” her politics.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:12 PM

26. Yep. They are Russian funded now as I understand it

Sad turn for a once great publication

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:48 AM

3. WOW ... The Nation is all in for appeasement.

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:53 AM

5. Confusing, but the article is published in RW The Hill. The Trumpy prof. maybe an occasional

opinion "columnist" in The Nation, but clearly this is not the opinion of The a Nation for appeasement by any means.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:10 AM

17. Cohen's history is pro-Kremlin always.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:28 AM

20. If you think that you haven't been paying attention

Besides pieces by Pution apologist Cohen the Nation has posted debunked articles on the supposed inability of eastern European countries' servers to support the kind of cuberwarefare conducted by Russian agents. It has been going on for years and clearly Cohen is either compromised or an outright agent. Van den Heuvel promised an investigation of the debunked pieces but it was just a cover-up. Until it gets new leadership the Nation is either irrelevant or dangerous at this point.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:38 AM

22. Yup... Katrina has allowed him to destroy the legacy of the Nation.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:59 PM

25. I do not burn the book because one page is crinkled.

Here is the link to the site...how many pro-Trump articles do you see...?? Go fish!


https://www.thenation.com/

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:34 PM

29. The nation does not publish explicitly pro-trump articles

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 04:24 PM

36. It's not one page that's crinkled; it's part of a larger problem

that is part of the attack on our country. And it has nothing to do with pro-trump articles, so that deflection won't work. It is about the publisher and her putin-apologist husband who are running it.

Here are Nation articles on:

supposed "Russiaphobic insanity" we as a country are undergoing:
https://www.thenation.com/article/amid-russiagate-hysteria-what-are-the-facts/

"Russiagate is more fiction than fact"
https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-is-more-fiction-than-fact/

Here's van den Heuvel's attempt to downplay the attack on our country:
https://www.thenation.com/article/on-russia-we-need-more-reason-and-less-frenzy/

Here's one blaming - get this, Democrats, for the hack, or as the writer calls it, a leak by the Dems:
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

None of those even include the work of Cohen, who has done more damage than anyone, but here's a quote from Cohen himself: "The number-one threat to the United States today," Cohen told Fox News, is the continuing investigation of Trump’s ties to Russia: "There is no evidence there was any wrongdoing."

There are many, many more examples I could use but I'll let you go fish for them. I had a subscription to the Nation for almost 30 years. It is compromised today, no matter how hard that is for some people to admit.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:53 AM

4. t-rump is gonna start some kind of major conflict no matter what.

The evangelist demands it - "end times".

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:58 AM

7. Cohen forgot to say that Putin was extremely strong and powerful

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:09 AM

16. Remember the Ukrainian stuff?

Cohen said that we should not defend the Ukraine because there were some antigay people living there. He literally was pushing for an invasion of the Ukraine by Russia!

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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:52 AM

24. Yep. He's really a Make Russia Great Again guy

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:59 AM

8. "We have pee tapes in our time!"

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:04 AM

10. What a BS choice!!

So it's either purse an investigation of Trump's Russian collusion or war with Russia?? What a ridiculous claim and "The Nation" should be ashamed for reprinting this drivel.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:08 AM

11. The Nation has the worst politics re Russia. Since the outset they have been active denialists. nt

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:23 AM

12. Such a bullshit choice. Impeachment equals war??? I don't think so.

I've noticed that Trump supporters do this a lot. They present two choices at extreme opposite ends and try and make it seem like they are the only two out there, and if you are for or against one then you are for or against the other. It's an intellectually dishonest trap that, unfortunately, they get away with far too often.

We can impeach Trump, impose greater sanctions on Russia, do to Russia what they're doing to us, by which I mean covertly support dissident elements in the country in an attempt to undermine Putin's regime, and still avoid war. And anyone who tells you differently is, quite simply, lying.

As for The Nation printing this drivel, it's what I've come to expect from them and one of the reasons I quit reading it over a decade ago.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:07 AM

15. Unsubbed them

My mom and I were just talking about this earlier in the week. We both had subscriptions to the Nation and we both cancelled them after a few issues. The relentless and hateful hostile tone toward moderate or centrist Democrats was outrageous.

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Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:40 AM

14. BY saying things like this trump

Is actually threatening us with war on us, and putin is the one trump will allow to do something to us with. Along with the republicans help in Congress, then claim its others , and others fault, again. He 's a corrupt crook and a puppet for putin now. So is the republican party enabling this to continue.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:18 AM

19. NO THANKS

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:31 AM

21. I change the channel when Katrina shows up. nt

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:41 AM

23. So, extortion it is, is it?

That's the plan?

No.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:13 PM

27. Like an idiot, I read lots of trumpette tweets, and this is the number one reason for treason:

“WE’RE GONNA HAVE A NUCLEAR WAR WITH RUSSIA IF WE DON’T BE NICE TO PUTIN!!!1!!”



It’s a brand new talking point, was NEVER an issue before Monday’s Helsinki sellout, and the whole gang is repeating it endlessly

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:30 PM

28. And it's such a weird new talking point

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:44 PM

32. GOP: "You're a warmonger if you're against us making money selling the country to Russia"

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:16 PM

37. I recall seeing claims that Hillary would get us into a nuclear war with Russia if she won.

I remember seeing relief on JPR at Trump's election, because at least he wouldn't get us into this alleged war, so some variant of the talking point has been around for awhile.

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Sun Jul 22, 2018, 03:23 PM

35. Seriously?

If that's what you think, please explain...

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:42 PM

31. Stephen Cohen, Katrina VandenHuevel's husband appears on Tucker Carlson's show now and then.

I canceled my subscription a couple years ago and I'm glad I did.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #31)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:46 PM

33. Cohen is despicable:

Putin is also “the least authoritarian” Russian ruler “in centuries,” he explained. None of this is Putin’s fault anyway: “He did not create this Ukrainian crisis,” noted Cohen. “It was imposed on him and he had no choice to react.”

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-vladimir-putin-fan-club/

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:51 PM

34. This is nuts. If you google him, he's been on Fox News a lot.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:23 PM

38. Pick the bigger troll, The Nation or The Hill?

Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband can go pound sand. At least The Hill doesn't pretend to be a liberal publication.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:24 PM

39. It's Putin shill Stephen Cohen who says that

 

He's a regular on the loony Fox shows.

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