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Do you consider Rep. Schiff Presidential material? (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 OP
Yes......definitely. CatMor Jul 2018 #1
Yes. GemDigger Jul 2018 #2
I like him. N/t Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #3
Without a doubt. drray23 Jul 2018 #4
Yes krawhitham Jul 2018 #5
YES!!! Nevermypresident Jul 2018 #6
Yes, I would vote him in a heartbeat. dewsgirl Jul 2018 #7
I'm very impressed with him. I haven't heard any hints that he's interested, but The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #8
I like him but hauckeye Jul 2018 #9
Presidential with IQ like Hillary, but like HRC, not much pizzazz. oasis Jul 2018 #10
Do we actually want a president with pizzazz? OR do we want someone who is more like shraby Jul 2018 #21
Think back a few years jmowreader Jul 2018 #25
I'd take Schiff without a 2nd thought. oasis Jul 2018 #28
I absolutely think he is presidential. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #35
I volunteered for both Kerry and HRC during primary season oasis Jul 2018 #50
He would be a fine president. madaboutharry Jul 2018 #11
Yes! MelissaB Jul 2018 #12
ABSOLUTELY! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2018 #13
No. He's brilliant at what he does, but he doesn't inspire me Poiuyt Jul 2018 #14
Not Really Me. Jul 2018 #15
Yes onecaliberal Jul 2018 #16
Brilliant yes. Charisma no. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #17
I appreciate all the replies... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #18
Attorney General peekaloo Jul 2018 #19
+1 BadgerMom Jul 2018 #48
I can imagine him as one Hell of an Attorney General Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #20
I hate to say this but I think too many people would reject him because he looks weird budkin Jul 2018 #22
The only good looking president in my lifetime was Obama. Squinch Jul 2018 #64
IMO, he would be an excellent president. cornball 24 Jul 2018 #23
Yes Luciferous Jul 2018 #24
yes lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #26
Nope. rogue emissary Jul 2018 #27
The other day, some folks said Eric Holder shouldn't run because he supposedly lacks charisma EffieBlack Jul 2018 #29
Unlike a lot of Americans, I go for the thoughtful cerebral type. Holder and Schiff both have that.. Hekate Jul 2018 #33
Holder and Schiff are at the top for me. When asked if he'd run, Holder said, "we'll see." I lit up. ancianita Jul 2018 #42
I hear you. Silver Gaia Jul 2018 #61
i find both of them appealing . i like policy wonk types JI7 Jul 2018 #44
Charisma is in the eye of the beholder and is often culturally biased EffieBlack Jul 2018 #66
I really like Eric Holder, but the Republicans have tainted his chances. LeftInTX Jul 2018 #59
He's a fine man; thorough, humble, sincere and honest... VOX Jul 2018 #30
I do. ooky Jul 2018 #31
He's been tireless coeur_de_lion Jul 2018 #32
No. shanny Jul 2018 #34
Absolutely. He is quiet compared to what we have now, but he is consistently level and sane. Frustratedlady Jul 2018 #36
I consider a ham sandwich with a D by it presidential material over any R. ffr Jul 2018 #37
Most definitely. My #1 pick. Totally Tunsie Jul 2018 #38
I think highly of him. But he's not really Presidential material, I think. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #39
The idiot who is in office now broke ALL the molds of what we Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #68
No...he fits the traits. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #69
Absolutely. His calm demeanor in the center of this storm is comforting. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2018 #40
Absolutely. ancianita Jul 2018 #41
Yes please! I love his demeanor and intelligence. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2018 #43
Yes radical noodle Jul 2018 #45
I've mulled this over myself.... Upthevibe Jul 2018 #46
Yes!!! Catch2.2 Jul 2018 #47
Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan, TexasTowelie Jul 2018 #60
The reich wingers have already vilified him and cast enough smoke... Hulk Jul 2018 #49
I like him, but... karin_sj Jul 2018 #51
He Is My Personal Fav, But He Is Jewish DoctorJoJo Jul 2018 #52
He's not a TV reality game show entertainer. moondust Jul 2018 #53
What with the shit-show going on in the WH now, I can imagine anybody in the WH. 33taw Jul 2018 #54
Definitely. arthritisR_US Jul 2018 #55
Too cerebral.... LeftInTX Jul 2018 #56
Winning 2018 is practical & must come first before any daydreams like that can be put into play. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #57
Definitely! The Conductor Jul 2018 #58
Yes. He's a serious man. Just what we need at this point in history. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #62
nope..a 2 on the charisma scale.. Swallwell has more a 7 maybe SoCalDem Jul 2018 #63
I just had a flash imagining that smart, thoughtful man as president. Squinch Jul 2018 #65
I would prefer a cardboard cut-out of President Obama rather Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #67

drray23

(7,616 posts)
4. Without a doubt.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:31 PM
Jul 2018

He is smart, thoughtful, always in control of his message. In some ways he reminds me of president Obama.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
8. I'm very impressed with him. I haven't heard any hints that he's interested, but
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jul 2018

if he was, based on what I've seen so far he'd be on my list of candidates I could easily support.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
10. Presidential with IQ like Hillary, but like HRC, not much pizzazz.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jul 2018

Definitely can fill the bill as U.S. Atty. General.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
21. Do we actually want a president with pizzazz? OR do we want someone who is more like
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:52 PM
Jul 2018

a rock solid individual?

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
25. Think back a few years
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jul 2018

Obama had pizzazz and he was a rock solid individual. The combination is rare, but it happens. Brian Schweitzer of Montana is another.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
28. I'd take Schiff without a 2nd thought.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jul 2018

It's the "who would you rather have a beer with?" crowd that needs convincing.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. I absolutely think he is presidential.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jul 2018

Just like I thought Hillary and John Kerry were presidential. The problem is that the majority of Americans do not warm up to intelligent, intellectual policy wonks. I don't understand it because I think these people are the ideal candidates.

However, the average Joe and Jane want some racist, liberal-hating, nihilist who they can imagine themselves having a brewski with. I despair for the state of the electorate of this nation. Most of them have no business voting.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
50. I volunteered for both Kerry and HRC during primary season
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:55 AM
Jul 2018

in the two states I lived at the time. There was no doubt in my mind they were the best candidates overall in 2004/2008, although I was pleased with the way Obama carried himself during his entire presidency.

Michele Obama continues to be my favorite quasi-political person of all.

Dunno what or who's next, but I've and put my time and energy in support of some of the best ever.

I have hopes for our America.

Poiuyt

(18,114 posts)
14. No. He's brilliant at what he does, but he doesn't inspire me
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jul 2018

A president has to have a strong vision and the charisma to inspire us to buy into that vision. It needs to be someone with fire in his or her belly. As much as I like Schiff, I don't see him in that role

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
18. I appreciate all the replies...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jul 2018

And you who are saying that he doesn't have the charisma are probably right....and that is a shame that "charisma" is how we elect our representatives.

budkin

(6,699 posts)
22. I hate to say this but I think too many people would reject him because he looks weird
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jul 2018

He'd be better off in a supporting role.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
64. The only good looking president in my lifetime was Obama.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jul 2018

(I know people think Kennedy was great looking but I never saw it.)

With Schiff, I'd vote for him in a nanosecond.

But you know I like TAMMY DUCKWORTH! for president.

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
27. Nope.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jul 2018

I think he is one of our best representatives in Congress. That doesn't mean he's Presidential Material. We need those great reps and senators in Congress. We shouldn't start talking about every Democrat we like as Presidential. Especially if they haven't said they are interested in running for President.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
29. The other day, some folks said Eric Holder shouldn't run because he supposedly lacks charisma
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jul 2018

But now people are falling all over Rep. Schiff.

Hmmm.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
33. Unlike a lot of Americans, I go for the thoughtful cerebral type. Holder and Schiff both have that..
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:20 PM
Jul 2018

But most people are looking for someone with star power, pizazz.

Fortunately for all of us, Barack Obama had it all.

Unfortunately for all of us, reserved and restrained (but bright and experienced) Hillary was up against a reality tv star gifted with ratlike cunning and backed by Putin. She still won, by the numbers, as I never tire of saying, but she is not in the Oval Office.

What I am saying is that while I would vote for either of these men in a heartbeat, I'm not sure how far they could get.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
42. Holder and Schiff are at the top for me. When asked if he'd run, Holder said, "we'll see." I lit up.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jul 2018

JI7

(89,239 posts)
44. i find both of them appealing . i like policy wonk types
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:32 AM
Jul 2018

i never cared for the so called charisma that certain types like Bush are said to have. i don't even consider those types charismatic.

even in the case of people like Obama and Bill Clinton what i found appealing about them was the same thing as the others .

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
66. Charisma is in the eye of the beholder and is often culturally biased
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018

Many people thought Obama didn't have charisma and passion because he didn't talk loud and fast. But black men often cannot talk loud and fast without being viewed as "angry black men," so they afoptva lower key, softer tone, which some people unaware of that dynamic may see as a lack of passion. Obama was constantly accused of that.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
59. I really like Eric Holder, but the Republicans have tainted his chances.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:32 AM
Jul 2018

Found him in "contempt", blamed him for "fast and furious".

VOX

(22,976 posts)
30. He's a fine man; thorough, humble, sincere and honest...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018

And once upon a time, that would have been enough.

But today’s politics are incredibly dirty, tough, and frankly mean. Given that reality, any viable candidate has to be charismatic and have a bit of “street fighter” in her/him. I cannot see Rep. Schiff as a winner in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan — in short, the states where 45 eked out a Russian-pushed victory.

I have no ideas yet, as I’m focused on 2018, and putting the brakes on the runaway train that is wall-to-wall, far-right Republican.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
36. Absolutely. He is quiet compared to what we have now, but he is consistently level and sane.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:21 AM
Jul 2018

I think he looks at the entire picture and doesn't make decisions on the run like Trump. It has been a short period of time Trump has been in office, but it has been a period of constant chaos. I don't see anything near that from Schiff.

He has also been up front about calling out Nunes and his cohorts when they are trying to cover up anything derogatory toward Trump. Schiff is dogged in getting the information whether they like it or not. I think the Democrats on that committee also agree with and follow Schiff closely and look up to him.

He would be a welcome contrast and one that we deserve.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. I think highly of him. But he's not really Presidential material, I think.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:26 AM
Jul 2018

There are certain types that win. I'm afraid he's not one of them.

There are actually physical attributes to winning the Presidential office, too, believe it or not. I read an article about it once. It has to do with what kind of person people see as a leader. Generally, attractive, tall, charismatic.

FDR won because he wasn't shown in his wheelchair. But he was thought to be attractive & tall, and was charismatic. Reagan, Kennedy, Clinton, Carter (charming more than charismatic), Obama, Bush Jr & Sr... Although there have been exceptions, like Nixon (although he's tall).

If Biden were younger, he'd have a good chance, I think. Tall, handsome, charismatic personality. Although there, too...if you have a long history in the Senate or House, there's a lot of votes, missed votes, and material to be attacked.

People also tend to think it's best if a governor or other executive becomes President, because it's an Executive job, whereas Congress is a legislative job...teamwork, committees, etc. Different set of skills. Not executive decision making.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
68. The idiot who is in office now broke ALL the molds of what we
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jul 2018

imagine "presidential" material to be. I guess his type was "white male, racist, misogynous, and with a phobia of ethnicity's."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
69. No...he fits the traits.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jul 2018

He's very tall. He WAS handsome as a young man, and for an old dude, is attractive when compared to many others his age. He's authoritarian in that he talks boldly, "appears" to be a leader, and he comes from a background where he called the shots rather than a committee-consensus basis thing, like Congress.

Ideologically or politically, his positions were different. But that's not what my post was talking about. He fits the profile that I've read about.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
40. Absolutely. His calm demeanor in the center of this storm is comforting.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:28 AM
Jul 2018

Lots of good candidates.

One thing I will NOT do is argue with fellow travelers. From what we know of the Mueller investigation, and all that acrimony between Sanders and Clinton supporters, Russia was stirring that pot. And I'm confident that I fell prey to some of it. And it sickens me.

I will not be goaded into an argument. I refuse to take the bait. Putin won once. He must not win again.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
46. I've mulled this over myself....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:35 AM
Jul 2018

Unfortunately, (and this isn't how I would want it).... I think the charisma is very important...I just do. You kind of need all the pieces...like President Obama. I think about most of my friends (who are very progressive but don't watch Rachel, CSPAN, etc.) and they know few details about what's really going on (I'm mainly speaking about Russia). Right now, I like Chris Murphy of Connecticut (who has expressed no interest in running).....Having said all of this, I think Adam Schiff would be an awesome Attorney General.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
49. The reich wingers have already vilified him and cast enough smoke...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jul 2018

He is currently one notch above Hillary and Pelosi in their hate column. I don't think it's a good idea. Yes...he is brilliant; but leave him do what he does best....call it what it is, and explain it to the simple minded viewers so they don't get lost on their iPhones.

karin_sj

(808 posts)
51. I like him, but...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jul 2018

I also like Eric Swalwell a lot and could definitely see him as a president too: maybe president and VP?

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
56. Too cerebral....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:26 AM
Jul 2018

His focus doesn't seem broad enough for chief executive.

I like him. He's great on the Intel Committee. Attorney General maybe.

The Conductor

(180 posts)
58. Definitely!
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jul 2018

I can picture Adam Schiff as president... Anyone other than the brain dead ourangutan we have now. There are chimps who could be better presidents than Igolf Twitterler is.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
63. nope..a 2 on the charisma scale.. Swallwell has more a 7 maybe
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 02:57 AM
Jul 2018

unfortunately, Americans either want good looking people or very persuasive, exciting people

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
65. I just had a flash imagining that smart, thoughtful man as president.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:56 AM
Jul 2018

Wouldn't it be great?

Won't it be great when ANYONE else is president?

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