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Willie Pep

(841 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:21 PM Jul 2018

Downward mobility among the white-collar middle class

I thought this was an interesting article on the issue of downward mobility and increasing precariousness among white-collar Americans.

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/americas-white-collar-middle-class-takes-a-terrifying-slide-down-the-mobility-ladder

One thing I have to say, though, is that a lot of middle-class Americans were fine throwing poor and working-class Americans under the bus in the past when times were better for the white-collar middle class. I recall many of my white-collar friends and family members complaining about unions and saying that factory workers should have gotten an education in response to plant closings. There was little sympathy for poor and blue-collar Americans. Now that many of the same problems are starting to hurt more affluent Americans some of them are changing their tune although I still hear a lot of nasty comments whenever fast food workers or other low-wage workers try to organize or get a raise in the minimum wage.

I am all in favor of solidarity between all American workers but this should be a good political lesson. Never, ever punch down and never assume that you are untouchable because you will be next on the chopping block. After the powerful demolish those at the bottom the middle and upper-middle will be next.

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Downward mobility among the white-collar middle class (Original Post) Willie Pep Jul 2018 OP
By then 2naSalit Jul 2018 #1
What a weird hot take. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #4
Historically, you have a point. Blue_true Jul 2018 #6
What arrogance by humans; they'll learn fast I hope. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #2
It was Only a Matter of Time dlk Jul 2018 #3
Why is that? When is a point reached when a person has enough wealth? Blue_true Jul 2018 #8
Interesting Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #5
My dad was one. ananda Jul 2018 #7
Did you ever ask your dad why he was like he was? Blue_true Jul 2018 #9

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
1. By then
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jul 2018

their house of card, if you will, should collapse and they will be left vulnerable in ways they never imagined. The downtrodden will be waiting for them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Historically, you have a point.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jul 2018

Vast accumulation of wealth has never worked out well for the rich. But history always repeated itself in that a new class of rich arise to attempt to grab all wealth. The downtrodden will be waiting to punish the current rich, then start the cycle all over again. The basic nature of humankind is to accumulate. I can almost promise you that if you took a random homeless person off the street and made that person a billionaire overnight, at some point they would start showing the same behavior that billionaires show, they will hoard and share grudgingly.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
2. What arrogance by humans; they'll learn fast I hope.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jul 2018

I recall many of my white-collar friends and family members complaining about unions and saying that factory workers should have gotten an education in response to plant closings. There was little sympathy for poor and blue-collar Americans.

dlk

(11,512 posts)
3. It was Only a Matter of Time
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jul 2018

The assault on America’s working class by the Rich was only the beginning. There is no limit to their avarice and no amount of wealth will ever satisfy them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. Why is that? When is a point reached when a person has enough wealth?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:01 PM
Jul 2018

I think about this a lot, is having $2 million flush enough, $200 million?, $2 billion, $20 billion? There are people with all of those numbers and they keep grabbing. Why is that?

ananda

(28,834 posts)
7. My dad was one.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:00 PM
Jul 2018

He hated unions and was very racist.

But during the Great Depression he and his family
only survived because of the New Deal and unions.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Did you ever ask your dad why he was like he was?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jul 2018

What a person that was likely saved by the things he hated had to say about those things in an indepth conversation would be interesting to know. I don't mean a name calling conversation, but one where he explored his justifications for feeling as he did.

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