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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:04 PM Aug 2012

Op-Ed: Andrea Saul single handedly kills Mitt Romney's hopes of victory

Op-Ed: Andrea Saul single handedly kills Mitt Romney's hopes of victory
Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul slipped away from the talking points while on the Fox News "Happening Now" program this morning and gave the campaign a brand new headache. This one may be fatal, as it affects whatever base Romney might still have.
While ostensibly on the program to hammer an ad being aired by a pro-Obama PAC in which a man blames Mitt Romney for losing his job and health insurance, and then his wife to cancer that would have been treated under his old insurance policy, Spokeswoman Saul said these words that were followed by a thunderclap of hands smacking foreheads around the nation.

To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care.

Lord, lord, lord! The last thing conservatives want to talk about, even less than Romney's tax returns (because at least there, they have a common enemy in Sen. Harry Reid), is Romneycare's similarity to Obamacare. Saul's comment turns Romney into the conservative's worst nightmare! Their main complaint about Romney all the way back to the primary season was his implementation of Obamacare on a state level would make him an ineffective messenger on repealing the president's legislation.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/330374#ixzz22zFchQeq

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Op-Ed: Andrea Saul single handedly kills Mitt Romney's hopes of victory (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 OP
Really the only thing they can all agree on is their hatred of President Obama. cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #1
+1 nt gateley Aug 2012 #20
Thats all they need. The nations good...forget about it. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #43
True Vietnameravet Aug 2012 #49
Oh, I think they have a few other points of commonality. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #56
Mostly greed. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #64
those and knuckle-dragging neanderthalism. nightscanner59 Aug 2012 #66
And, chervilant Aug 2012 #72
Really the only thing they can all agree on is their hatred of President Obama. AlbertCat Aug 2012 #83
My theory: ProSense Aug 2012 #2
It's like ProSense Aug 2012 #3
"Limbaugh was literally left sputtering as he contemplated the Romney response." yellowcanine Aug 2012 #5
I beg to differ. intheflow Aug 2012 #8
He looks like he just shit his pants... sky imager Aug 2012 #16
No kidding. hifiguy Aug 2012 #18
I can smell it from here! :) Freddie Aug 2012 #22
Having never watched the show myself, i have to ask: chknltl Aug 2012 #27
thank you very much for an image NOBODY wanted to have. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #35
I dunno, he might be Scottish. chknltl Aug 2012 #52
No way that particular "fat bastard" is Scottish.... pkdu Aug 2012 #54
You mean drinking a case of Glenfiddich every night doesn't make you Scottish? jmowreader Aug 2012 #62
lmao TeamPooka Aug 2012 #41
Next time post a graphic warning. Thank you. :) n/t sarge43 Aug 2012 #68
he just looks like shit, to me. ;0 nt progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #32
+1 davidpdx Aug 2012 #53
It makes you want to pinch those cheeks doesn't it? lunatica Aug 2012 #29
er...WHICH cheeks? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #36
The ones close to his pouty little hole lunatica Aug 2012 #42
...because this is AMERICA, the LAND OF THE FREE!!!... Ken Burch Aug 2012 #45
See this? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #34
Careful, that's his warning sign before his head explodes. tanyev Aug 2012 #39
No. No he is not. He is never cute. Ugly, ugly, ugly. Raster Aug 2012 #63
If that picture were posted somewhere with JoeyT Aug 2012 #67
Its getting so bad, they may have to start talking about Mormonism. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #4
Mitt is a good Christian Morman -- I can just hear it now. nt gateley Aug 2012 #21
A "Morman"? Is that what the call adult males in that faith? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #46
and their sorcerers are called "Morlocks"...n/t AmyDeLune Aug 2012 #57
So do they come from Mordor? demwing Aug 2012 #65
I know how it's spelled, I just fucked up. nt gateley Aug 2012 #86
Sorry...wasn't slamming you... Ken Burch Aug 2012 #87
Oh no -- I wasn't offended! I laughed at your post -- I was just laughing at gateley Aug 2012 #88
We're all good then? Cool! Ken Burch Aug 2012 #89
Absolutely! If only you could have HEARD my post, you'd have known there gateley Aug 2012 #90
You seriously underestimate the power of Republicans to ignore facts. denverbill Aug 2012 #6
That's what I think too. Plus, Romneyhood can turn around and say he can make Healthcare work. Hoyt Aug 2012 #28
Don't underestimate the Obama team to keep reminding the public lunatica Aug 2012 #30
Exactly. All Romney has to do is claim that "Liberal Program" was a "Taxacussetts" thing. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #37
They'll vote for "anybody but Obama". progressoid Aug 2012 #51
And, too many are chervilant Aug 2012 #73
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2012 #74
You said it! K&R COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #76
rMoney always restricts his support for RomneyCare to MA. He says SDjack Aug 2012 #7
Not so much that as trying to have it both ways JHB Aug 2012 #24
I think it's just the old conservative POV about Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #26
Worse yet: She said it on two separate occasions, two different shows. democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #9
Freepers are having a sh*t storm. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #10
Ha ha ha UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #12
OMG that first line is so effing funny!! Johnyawl Aug 2012 #17
Maybe not a freeper. Maybe one of those "dem plants" they were talking about. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #19
I'm sure the Freepers got their panties all wadded up good now. TxVietVet Aug 2012 #71
Erick Erickson "OMG. This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election. Wow" cleduc Aug 2012 #11
An accidental truth -- how sweet it is! Jessy169 Aug 2012 #13
"Wait, wait, wait--even though the truth would actually help us, we want you to find a lie!" spooky3 Aug 2012 #80
Andrea, Andrea riverwalker Aug 2012 #14
She's Obama's mole, his double agent!!!! sadbear Aug 2012 #15
She, and Eric Ferhnstrom (the one who said "Etch-A-Sketch") DinahMoeHum Aug 2012 #23
One thunderclap of facepalms, coming right up! rocktivity Aug 2012 #25
b-, b-, b ... but that'd be S - O - C - I - A - L - I - S - M, wouldn't it!?!?!? aaAAARRRGGHHH!!!! patrice Aug 2012 #31
The gang that can't shoot straight strikes again... Historic NY Aug 2012 #33
"W"illard is white and not Obama Richard D Aug 2012 #38
But, but, Obama is half white. Doesn't that count? nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #40
only half as much. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #48
No. 1/16th I believe was the legal limit on white. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #77
Doesn't that count? AlbertCat Aug 2012 #84
Why, oh why doesn't someone bring this up? WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2012 #44
we've truly entered orwellian territory. romney is evil, but his healthcare is the bee's knees. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #47
I'm seriously looking forward to the Romney campaign post-mortems the pundits will produce stubtoe Aug 2012 #50
How amazingly stupid are these people? Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #55
I think I saw coulter's head go spinning off earlier proud patriot Aug 2012 #58
I don't know which quote I like better... Peaceful Protester Aug 2012 #59
Ironic how the right only criticize Romney spokespeople when they tell the truth. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #60
This Article Made Me Think Of This Movie Clip ChoppinBroccoli Aug 2012 #61
wow, O.J. Simpson facepalm. foo_bar Aug 2012 #75
No Canadian 2 Aug 2012 #69
Wow - what rank hypocrites (R) Berlum Aug 2012 #70
The etch a sketch seems to shake itself. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #78
So conservatives are outraged when an aide speaks the TRUTH? More evidence of spooky3 Aug 2012 #79
Team-Obama needs to GO WITH THIS in a big way! Also, watch how she WHINES about the Obama ads. WHAA! RBInMaine Aug 2012 #81
You can't kill what's already dead KurtNYC Aug 2012 #82
President Obama's healthcare plan will never be repealed. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #85

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
56. Oh, I think they have a few other points of commonality.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:21 PM
Aug 2012

Greed, global warming denial, wanting tax cuts for the rich, Bush amnesia, a few things like that.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
72. And,
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:35 AM
Aug 2012

all people with 'dark' skin (note that our language is a result of centuries of prejudice...)

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
83. Really the only thing they can all agree on is their hatred of President Obama.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
Aug 2012

Bingo.


It's not that Rmoney's people are so incompetent or keep screwing up as much as, there's no way to talk about Mittens without bringing up stuff no one on the right wants to hear. It's simply impossible. They can only (safely) talk about Obama.... and most of the "bad bad Obama" memes have run their course and fizzled out... except of course the millions of ways to point out he's black!!!!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. My theory:
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:10 PM
Aug 2012

Conservatives are freaking out over this because they know the tax issues is killing Mitt's campaign.


It's a typical screw up from a campaign that can't keep its lies straight, and the RW hates ObamaCare, but the "OMG, it's over" reaction is an admission that Mitt is screwed.

yellowcanine

(36,788 posts)
5. "Limbaugh was literally left sputtering as he contemplated the Romney response."
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:20 PM
Aug 2012

I love it when Rush sputters. He is so cute when he does that.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
27. Having never watched the show myself, i have to ask:
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

What evidence do you have that he wears pants?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
42. The ones close to his pouty little hole
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:23 PM
Aug 2012

Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Everyone gets to choose which cheeks.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
34. See this?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

[img][/img]

That's the expression he should have had upon hearing he was being pulled from the air for violating the morals clause of his contract for his drug use.

No Rock and Roll DJ in America could have been busted for "hillbilly heroin" and been able to find work ever again. Instead, Rush didn't even pay a fine. He just paid the court costs and did rehab.

tanyev

(49,288 posts)
39. Careful, that's his warning sign before his head explodes.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:17 PM
Aug 2012

If you are in a 5 mile radius, take cover now!

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
67. If that picture were posted somewhere with
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:26 AM
Aug 2012

zero context as to what caused it, I wonder what people would think his problem was?

"What do you mean the pharmacy was out of Oxycontin? I'm jonesing bad man!"

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
46. A "Morman"? Is that what the call adult males in that faith?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:35 PM
Aug 2012

Are adult females called "Morwomen"?(I just set up a half-dozen jokes there, people...)

And what about the Morboys and Morgirls?

(not sure what term they'd use for transgendered LDS'rs, though).

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
87. Sorry...wasn't slamming you...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

It was just a great set up...I mean, you can see the possibilities...

No personal offense intended...ok?

gateley

(62,683 posts)
88. Oh no -- I wasn't offended! I laughed at your post -- I was just laughing at
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:08 AM
Aug 2012

myself. Sorry if I sounded offended!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
90. Absolutely! If only you could have HEARD my post, you'd have known there
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:02 PM
Aug 2012

wasthere was nothing to worry about.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
6. You seriously underestimate the power of Republicans to ignore facts.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

He could go on TV today, clearly announce he now backs a Canadian style single payer plan for the US, and teabaggers would forget all about it and be queueing up to vote against the evil Obama.

About the only thing he could do to lose their support is call Sarah Palin unqualified for VP or announce that he wants new laws to prevent insane people, criminals, and terrorists from buying guns.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. That's what I think too. Plus, Romneyhood can turn around and say he can make Healthcare work.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:19 PM
Aug 2012

I don't buy it, but there will be some "independents" who do and believe he's not so bad.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. Exactly. All Romney has to do is claim that "Liberal Program" was a "Taxacussetts" thing.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:59 PM
Aug 2012

And then claim it wasn't even his and he only signed it into law because he wanted something in return and then point out something he did to screw poor people and all will be forgiven. ESPECIALLY if the poor people were black and some of them died.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
51. They'll vote for "anybody but Obama".
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:55 PM
Aug 2012

A few months ago, I heard some RWers talking at a bar about who to vote for in the primary. They kept saying, "anybody but Romney". But when they came to the conclusion Mitt was going to get the nod, they switched to "Anybody but Obama".

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
73. And, too many are
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

seriously underestimating the power of racism in our nation. Spend a few moments in a small diner in 'Anywhere' Rural America: you'll likely hear all about 'that colored feller in the White House,' and how most folk are gonna vote for 'whoever the Tea Party endorses.'

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
7. rMoney always restricts his support for RomneyCare to MA. He says
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:24 PM
Aug 2012

that the model will not work nationally. Is that position rooted in racism? Why wont it work nationally? Is it because MA has a high percent of whites, and many other States have much lower percents? If that's not what rMoney is thinking, then he should tell us. Maybe we can fix it.

JHB

(38,211 posts)
24. Not so much that as trying to have it both ways
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

It's his one big achievement as governor, and it's basically working, so completely disowning it would look idiotic (to himself, which is the opinion that counts), but he also has to ride the hate-machine against Obama, thus magically it works in one place but is bad bad bad anywhere else.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
26. I think it's just the old conservative POV about
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

states rights vs. federal rights. They want everything to be left up to the states, including health care.

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
9. Worse yet: She said it on two separate occasions, two different shows.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
Aug 2012

So there's nor "I misspoke" bullsh**.

No - you said it, twice; and meant it.

yellowcanine

(36,788 posts)
10. Freepers are having a sh*t storm.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

“Somebody find him a big tub of crap to stand in so he doesn’t look like fool walking around looking for a pile to step in.”

ya what you said... What a collection of morons this candidate and his campaign is...

When you have a candidate with no core conservative principles this is what you get

We are toast

Pretty much endorsed RomneyCare

No. Pretty much endorsed Obamacare.

What a moron! Why didn’t he point out that the guy’s wife wasn’t refused treatment, and WAS treated even though there was no insurance, and that under Obamacare, the guy would have to pay a fine to the IRS for being uninsured?

The GOP is dead. The sooner conservatives face up to that the sooner we can get about the business of saving the republic.

These people can be so damnably stupid. What a moronic response to an ad that claims your candidate killed a woman.

I am convinced there are democrat operatives running Mitt’s campaign. That or they are simpleton morons. All Right! Who is the dipshit who blew our cover???

Johnyawl

(3,210 posts)
17. OMG that first line is so effing funny!!
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:48 PM
Aug 2012

“Somebody find him a big tub of crap to stand in so he doesn’t look like fool walking around looking for a pile to step in.”

What freeper was smart enough to string those words together? lmao

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
71. I'm sure the Freepers got their panties all wadded up good now.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:58 AM
Aug 2012

They'll have to do a couple of doobies to calm down. On second thought, screw them, let them whine and rant.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
11. Erick Erickson "OMG. This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election. Wow"
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/233242146189225984

Coming from a fairly senior GOP pundit, that statement is more damning.

What Romney's spokesperson said is true: if that man's wife had access to RomneyCare/ObamaCare, she might have lived.

So once again, the GOP party is lamenting the truth coming out that healthcare like Obama's could have saved and continue to save Americans lives. They're lamenting something that would be good for average Americans but because they're against it, it was ok for Americans to die so that they could resume their hold on political power.

I find Erickson's reaction much more offensive than anything that woman said.

And you know what? Folks like that don't deserve to be in power and shouldn't be anywhere close to it. When America gets people like that as far away from Washington as they can, America will be much, much better off.

Again, when I looked at the two candidates, their policies and what is behind them, I don't understand why Romney is remotely close in the polls.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
13. An accidental truth -- how sweet it is!
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

I'm sure that Andrea Saul was desparately fishing around in her mind for a good lie, but ended up latching onto this truthful statement instead. The pressure cooker that Romney and his team are trapped in is shooting out clouds of steam -- watch out, I think it's going to blow!

spooky3

(38,632 posts)
80. "Wait, wait, wait--even though the truth would actually help us, we want you to find a lie!"
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:26 AM
Aug 2012

"We are furious you didn't lie about how our candidate's health care plan helped average Americans."

Had Romney convinced conservatives that the Mass. program was actually good for people and taken credit for the ideas behind ACA, he would have no problem now.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
14. Andrea, Andrea
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:42 PM
Aug 2012

remember back in May you said "Obama is in way over his head"? Oh honey, I think you blew it. Your degree was in Communications, right? Uhh huh. Your daddy is a multi-billionaire who owns the largest carpet company in the world. You coasted through school, daddy pulled some strings, you got a few campaign gigs, sounds like people kind of just put up with you, because youre cute, young and rich, and no one wants to piss off daddy. Instead of, you know, actually doing anything of merit. You blew it honey, sorry, but you did.
Maybe you could go into dads carpet business, although I think everyones getting laminate floors these days....

patrice

(47,992 posts)
31. b-, b-, b ... but that'd be S - O - C - I - A - L - I - S - M, wouldn't it!?!?!? aaAAARRRGGHHH!!!!
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:34 PM
Aug 2012
~

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
33. The gang that can't shoot straight strikes again...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:41 PM
Aug 2012

if they keep this up Obama won't have to worry about the money gap...its simply precious.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
48. only half as much.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:42 PM
Aug 2012

maybe if we could get Mitt's genealogy files from Salt Lake City and find out if he fails the "one drop theory".

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
44. Why, oh why doesn't someone bring this up?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

I keep waiting for someone in the Obama campaign to state the rather obvious and hopefully this might be the opportunity.

To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care.


Why should someone in Massachusetts have better access to health care than someone in say California, New York, Nevada, or any other damn state in the union? Isn't this The United States?
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
47. we've truly entered orwellian territory. romney is evil, but his healthcare is the bee's knees.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

it's hard to know who the intended propaganda target is.

stubtoe

(1,862 posts)
50. I'm seriously looking forward to the Romney campaign post-mortems the pundits will produce
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:55 PM
Aug 2012

this November. Once they finally get past spinning poll data during this lead-up, and only the wreckage remains.

So many problems, so many gaffes, however will they rank them all?

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
55. How amazingly stupid are these people?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

Today they tried to use Bill Clinton in an ad that lies about Obama and welfare reform. Of course Clinton denied what they said. Hey morons, you don't want to take on Bill Clinton! Best you not attempt to use him in any way.

Then this person makes a remark that praises Romneycare in Massachusetts while Romney is dissing Obamacare every chance he gets.

Romney cannot run a campaign without screwing up.

He certainly cannot run the government of this country.

Peaceful Protester

(280 posts)
59. I don't know which quote I like better...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:57 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

"To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care." ~ Andrea Saul, Romney spokeswoman

-OR-

"If Chris Christie doesn't run in 2012, Mitt Romney will be our nominee and we will lose."
~ Ann Coulter, at 2011 CPAC

...Both are very good.

SunSeeker

(58,280 posts)
60. Ironic how the right only criticize Romney spokespeople when they tell the truth.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:07 PM
Aug 2012

And don't think women won't notice how harder the right is being on Saul compared to Ferhnstrom.

spooky3

(38,632 posts)
79. So conservatives are outraged when an aide speaks the TRUTH? More evidence of
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:23 AM
Aug 2012

how Orwellian and duplicitous the Republicans are today.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
81. Team-Obama needs to GO WITH THIS in a big way! Also, watch how she WHINES about the Obama ads. WHAA!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:59 AM
Aug 2012

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
82. You can't kill what's already dead
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:06 PM
Aug 2012

Mitt killed it with his lies and his liberal healthcare program.

Romney has defended Romneycare -- he said it wasn't a tax right after the SCOTUS decision. Why blame Saul?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
85. President Obama's healthcare plan will never be repealed.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012

Only improved.

It saves the country too much money in the long run to ever gain enough support to repeal it.
It's law, and that's the way it is.

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