Even Tulsi Gabbard is promoting dangerous conspiracy theories...

[pbmus]

Link to tweet

[oberliner]

1. Who are the good guys in Syria?

[comradebillyboy]

2. Certainly not Tulsi's friend Assad.

[oberliner]

5. Tulsi Gabbard is a Democrat

And that doesn't answer my question.

[comradebillyboy]

9. Indeed Tulsi is a Democrat and to answer your question

there don't appear to be any good guys in Syria, only violent extremists and their victims.

[oberliner]

11. Definitely a horrible, ugly situation all around in Syria

And one that the media seems to have mostly forgotten about or declined to cover since they are very busy discussing Trump tweeting about LeBron James.

[Separation]

28. No, there are/were good guys there

Its just that Putins hand is so far up Trumps ass puppateering, that the people who tried to set up against Assad were labeled as terrorists. It's all about that warm weather port there and Russia. Everything else is just diversion.

[oberliner]

29. Who are the good guys in Syria?

[Separation]

30. Now? They are all dead or gone.

Russia has saw to that.

[phleshdef]

34. Tulsi Gabbard is an islamophobic STAIN.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

31. At least in the West, I don't think anyone really knows.

I read a lot of evaluations of that question during the first years of that conflict that said there are many dozens of factions and armed groups, all of which have constantly shifting motives and alliances. I saw a list of them once and it was mind-boggling. And then, there's many outside powers pulling the strings and providing arms, supplies and cash.

Could be one of the most politically complex conflicts in human history and I don't feel we should have dipped our toes in that water. In the beginning, everyone in the West wanted Assad out but couldn't justify an all-out war with Syria, particularly considering that Russia and Iran were already firmly embedded - both politically, militarily and culturally.

[oasis]

3. When is the Democratic primary in Hawaii?

A change might be the remedy.

[msongs]

7. she has a highly qualified dem opponent whom she refuses to debate. in fact tulsi

has dodged just about every democratic primary candidate forum available

[oasis]

14. Gonna try to slide by on name recognition. Doesn't say much

for her level of confidence. Maybe she's afraid of being asked about going third party should she lose to her challenger.

[oberliner]

15. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Hosts Hilo Congress On Your Corner

Today on Hawaiʻi Island, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) hosted a Congress on Your Corner at KTA in Hilo to hear from constituents about their ideas and concerns, and to share how her office can assist people with federal services

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/video-photos-rep-tulsi-gabbard-hosts-hilo-congress-your-corner-visits-small

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Hosts Maui Congress On Your Corner

On Monday, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) hosted a “Congress On Your Corner” at the Queen Kaʻahumanu Center in Kahului, where she visited with local residents and updated them on her work in Washington, DC, including on recent federal funding secured for Hawaiʻi, her Off Fossil Fuels for a Better Future Act, her Securing America’s Elections Act, and more

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/photos-video-rep-tulsi-gabbard-hosts-maui-congress-your-corner-honors-vietnam

She does a lot of events where she meets with constituents and takes questions.

[W_HAMILTON]

18. None of what you posted refutes what the other poster said.

[oberliner]

19. Wasn't meant to

It is true that she has expressed no interest in taking part in any debates.

My post was meant to highlight some of the positive things she is doing to reach out to her constituents.

[OnDoutside]

22. But she's doing the same as Joe Crowley did ?

[W_HAMILTON]

25. And she's avoiding debates in her primary after she complained...

...about the need for more debates in other primaries, even though those other primaries included many more debates than the *zero* she has taken part in during this cycle.

[OnDoutside]

27. Breathless stuff.

[Cha]

23. tulsi is too chicken to debate Sherry Campagna.

The Hawaii Teacher's Union has endorsed Sherry.

HI-02: Hawaii Teachers Union Backs Gabbard Opponent For Congress

Harsh Criticism For Gabbard

“She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.

“Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.”

Sherry Campagna appears with HSTA members at a May 22 press conference announcing the union’s endorsement of her challenge to U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard in Hawaii’s 2nd District Congressional race.

[oasis]

35. Kick for Campagna

[Cha]

36. Mahalo, oasis!

The last election her opponent Shay Chan Hodges lost by 14,000 votes.. I hope by some miracle that Sherry can beat her.

[Cha]

20. It's Tuesday August 7th, oasis

And that's it .. she's only going by name recognition. She can't handle debating Sherry Campagna.. especially on foreign policy.

[oasis]

32. Thanks Cha.

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I lived in Hawaii years ago and I remember ExHonolulu Mayor, Frank Fasi forming a 3rd party after he was rejected by the Republican Party. Pat Saiki, I believe was the GOP choice. I think Democrat Ben Cayetano won that year, not sure. I've moved around since then and the rules for elections differ from state to state.

Anyway, after the August primary, do you know if it would be too late for a malcontent to mount a third party campaign?

[oberliner]

6. Defending people who have a D after their name is critical right now

You don't agree?

[msongs]

8. in the primaries it is better democrats not just incumbents nt

[Blue_true]

10. Tulsi has a very good primary challenger who appears to be a much better D.

I would like to see the challenger beat her Tuesday after next (if I have the primary date right).

[oberliner]

13. I just read through the Q&A from the two Dem primary candidates (Gabbard and Campagna)

They both seem great.

Here is what I read if you're interested:

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/07/candidate-qa-us-house-district-2-sherry-campagna/
https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/07/candidate-qa-us-house-district-2-tulsi-gabbard/

[Blue_true]

17. Good answers from both, but I still favor Sherry.

I just believe that she has more long term upside as a leader.

[Hortensis]

12. "Even"? :) Perhaps not incidentally, Tulsi's been

out of the news for a long time. As for the way she's getting this attention, some people can be counted on to do the wrong thing, and weird things, way too often, and Gabbard's one of them.

Wonder where she stands with her conservative mentor, billionaire Sheldon Adelson, these days? He's of course intensely pro- Israel, and the group that sent Gabbard to Syria last year is an Arab American group believed to have ties to Assad and to be anti-Semitic.

She's showing signs of being one of those who can't help self destructing. Itm, she's already gearing up for her next run for office and has an Amazon page secured for an apparently unwritten book except for the title.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/01/the-organization-that-sent-tulsi-gabbard-to-syria/514763/

[Gothmog]

16. Are Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard's loony foreign policy positions making her scared to debate her cha

Link to tweet

[Cal Carpenter]

21. Tulsi Gabbard is an Islamophobe

and was a homophobe until it suited her political purposes to claim otherwise. She has deep roots in a very shady cult with a charismatic guru in Hawaii that has deliberately been seeking political power for decades (eta: and have succeeded in Tulsi and her father). A lot of people don't like hearing this but it is true. Having read about and researched this cult for years I've been flabbergasted at how easily she has become a Dem party 'progressive' hero. It's stunning and opportunistic. And dangerous.

Only the Islamophobia rears its ugly head in overt ways, but I don't trust her at all.

Whenever I try to talk about it here I get reprimanded for 'Dem bashing' or some such thing.

[BannonsLiver]

38. She's also an Obamaphobe

Said some truly vicious things about the man while he was president. On a related note, That one poster in this thread, noted for their spectacularly poor hot takes on pretty much everything, is a rabid defender of Gabbard is of no surprise to me.

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. Keep an eye on Tulsi. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her switch parties if she wins again.

[RhodeIslandOne]

33. I think it depends on who wins the House

She’s not climbing in bed with the GOP if they stink.

[VOX]

26. "...when Steve Bannon called and asked [Gabbard] to meet with Trump, at Trump Tower, she accepted."

I once had high hopes for Tulsi Gabbard. Now, not so much.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe
The New Yorker, 11/06/2017
What Does Tulsi Gabbard Believe? The making of a charismatic, unorthodox Democrat.
By Kelefa Sanneh
<snip>
When Gabbard entered politics, she was only twenty-one, and in those early years she was a social conservative, pro-life and active in the fight against same-sex marriage. She is now pro-choice and pro-same-sex-marriage: on these and other issues, she has evolved enough to be almost—but not quite—at home in the contemporary Democratic Party...
<snip>
Earlier this year, a handful of impassioned progressives gathered in downtown Honolulu for an event known as Resist Trump Tuesday, in which they visited their senators and Congress members—all Democrats—and urged them to fight harder. They got a friendly reception at the office of Senator Brian Schatz, and one participant presented some red flowers at the office of Senator Mazie Hirono, who has been battling kidney cancer. But at Gabbard’s office the staffer who met them was warier: he read a list of her recent legislative positions, including her support for a fifteen-dollar minimum wage, then listened politely as they expressed their concerns. (They wanted a more vigorous congressional investigation into Russian collusion with Trump’s campaign, legalization of sex work, action on climate change, funding for the arts.) As they spilled back out into the hallway, they were, for the first time all afternoon, expressing ambivalence.
<snip>
When Clinton won the nomination, it posed a problem for Gabbard, until someone came along to solve it: Donald Trump, whose victory insured that Sanders supporters would pay no substantial price for having abandoned Clinton. Gabbard says that she was “shocked” when Trump won, and “concerned, in so many ways.” But, while some of her friends spent weeks fighting depression, she had a more levelheaded reaction. “I’m a pretty pragmatic person,” she says. “It was, like, ‘O.K., there’s a lot at stake. We are where we are—let’s figure out how we move forward.’ ” And so, when Steve Bannon called and asked her to meet with Trump, at Trump Tower, she accepted. (The Hill reported that Bannon “loves Tulsi Gabbard,” and that he viewed her as someone who “gets the foreign policy stuff, the Islamic terrorism stuff.”) Gabbard insists that she never considered the possibility—which seemed plausible, in those unpredictable days—that Trump would offer her a position in his Cabinet. Her claim is not entirely believable, but it spares her from having to answer the question of whether she would have accepted such an offer.
<snip>
Gabbard says that she and Trump talked mainly about foreign policy; as a candidate, he had suggested, however inconsistently, that he would curb military interventions. Gabbard recalls that she found the meeting encouraging. “I walked out thinking that there may be some opportunity to work with this Administration to shift our foreign policy in a more positive, less destructive direction,” she said, and then paused. “Less hopeful, now.”
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[oasis]

37. Kick for a more sane and transparent congress.

And one more aligned with Democratic Party values.

[oasis]

39. Kick