Weekend toll: 70 shot -- 11 fatally -- in Chicago gun violence

[oberliner]

A weekend of gun violence in Chicago left at least 11 people dead and 59 wounded.

Three people were shot Friday evening, 14 were shot Saturday, 47 were shot Sunday and six were shot early Monday, capping off the weekend, which began 5 p.m. Friday and ended 5 a.m. Monday.

The violence reached a peak Sunday, when 30 people were shot during a three-hour span between midnight and 3 a.m. Eight shooting incidents that morning had three or more victims. A single shooting in Gresham wounded eight people, including four teenage girls, as they stood in a courtyard.

The influx of trauma patients at Stroger Hospital was so large Sunday morning, visitors of shooting victims were kept from entering, leaving them to congregate outside near a parking lot.

A teenage girl was killed and five other people, including an 11-year-old boy, were wounded early Sunday in Lawndale neighborhood shooting on the Southwest Side. About 2:35 a.m., several people were standing on a sidewalk in the 1300 block of South Millard Avenue when two males approached on foot and opened fire, according to police.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/weekend-toll-70-shot-11-fatally-in-chicago-gun-violence/

This should not be something we just accept as normal.

Here is a tribute to the 17 year old girl, Jahnae Patterson, who was fatally shot in the face.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/photos/ct-jahnae-patterson-vigil-shooting-chicago-photos-20180805-photogallery.html

[uponit7771]

1. Can some of the residents sue Indiana for their gun laws?

[oberliner]

2. Good question

Don't know the answer.

[Inkfreak]

3. is it the gun laws or drug/gang violence that are causing this?

[uponit7771]

8. Gun laws mostly, of course there's going to be gangs in any human city buts is the unfettered access

... to guns from Indiana that's making this worse.

70 shootings is Brazil level violence

[hack89]

16. Seven of the top ten sources of illegal guns are in-state

40% of the illegal guns come from Illinois, 21% from Indiana


https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/chicago-gun-trace-report-2017-454016983.html

[uponit7771]

17. Yep, figured ... take away Indiana's guns and Chi Town has a normal level of saturation of guns ...

... my speculation.

I also figured Chi Town wasn't the source of the majority of weapons used in these shootings

[hack89]

26. Feel free to back up "normal level of saturation" with some facts. nt

[uponit7771]

27. More laxed gun laws penalties and less LEOs per person than comparable Brooklyn (link)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html

It's not the overtly racist ass'd winger notion of blacks being lower kind of humans

[Amishman]

36. Its poverty, drugs, gangs, and especially lack of opportunity

If Indiana's gun laws were the problem, then Indiana would be a mortuary. Chicago has plenty of non-gun violence too.

The problem is the city has a lot of people who find it necessary to resort to crime and violence. I believe this is because the traditional paths to success have been closed to them. The only directions they can choose channel their ambition is onto criminal paths.

Chicago needs to spend less time setting up 'bait trucks' to arrest desperate poor people and more time developing the skills of those poor people and helping them open new paths to a better life.

[LanternWaste]

35. Don't ask the experts, ask the layman.

"I will not sit and wait for "experts" to tell me what to think. Sounds like a way to avoid critical thinking..."

[AncientGeezer]

4. "Can some of the residents sue Indiana for their gun laws?" No.

[LanternWaste]

5. Who is arguing we should?

"This should not be something we just accept as normal..."

Who is arguing we should? Or is that simply another place-holder sentiment?

[oberliner]

6. The people who aren't doing anything about it

are implicitly, through their inaction, accepting it as normal.

[aikoaiko]

7. Chicago doesn't have the worst murder rate but still in the top 25

We need social and economic justice to address the systemic reasons for these shootings/killings.

[oberliner]

9. This weekend in Chicago was particularly awful

The stories of these young people who lost their lives are just so heartbreaking.

This one really got to me:

Link to tweet

[aikoaiko]

12. My apologies. I didn't mean to disparage the tragedy of this massive number of lost lives.

Or the extraordinary tragedy of young people dying violently and needlessly.

I only meant to counteract the misperception, not your's but other's, that Chicago is the worst city for murders and shootings.

[oberliner]

13. An 8-year old boy was shot in North St. Louis last night also

Police are investigating a shooting that left an 8-year-old with a gunshot wound just before 8 p.m. Sunday in north St. Louis.

http://www.kmov.com/story/38816617/6-year-old-among-those-injured-in-north-st-louis-shooting-police-say

You can spend hours reading all these heartbreaking stories and it packs quite an emotional punch.

I agree with you that there are fundamental societal problems that must be addressed - it just seems like there is a national conversation that needs to be happening that isn't.

[uponit7771]

10. I think it's the shooting incidents which a lot of wingers point to that's the issue. The murder rat

... rate is low relatively but the number of shootings is Brazil level

[aikoaiko]

15. I haven't seen any shooting indexes just homicide or suicide by gun.

Do you know one for shootings (whether they resulted in deaths or not).

[Tipperary]

11. Yeah, because shooting one another advances a person up into a higher socio-economic bracket.

Uh huh.

[aikoaiko]

14. I think you're underestimating the impact of centuries/decades of discrimination, bigotry, poverty,

...limited resources/opportunities, and racism can have on a community.

[braddy]

18. Houston Texas is pretty close to the Chicago population and has about 550 shootings per year.

[oberliner]

19. What does Houston have to do with what happened in Chicago this weekend?

[braddy]

23. Plenty, read the thread posts, it isn't Indiana gun laws causing this, it is Chicago causing it.

[uponit7771]

28. Brooklyn similar is similar size, higher penalty gun laws and more Leos.

[Kingofalldems]

21. Looks like you already have an OP on this, oberliner.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210966630

OP could have been updated. Is there a reason for 2 OPs on the same subject?

[oberliner]

22. Three OPs - 2 in GD and 1 in LBN

Hopefully each of them at least as valuable and thought-provoking as posts about Trump possibly being late for tea with the Queen or what time Michael Avenatti is next going to be on television.

[Kingofalldems]

25. I don't think they are posted to be thought provoking.

Oh yes and I will continue to update DU on the fight against Donald Trump.

[R B Garr]

34. Speaking of Trump, he also likes to bring up Chicago

gun episodes.

[braddy]

24. I think the new total is 74 shot.

[TheBlackAdder]

30. Nothing good happens on a street corner, during a hot summer night, between the hours of 2-5AM.

[jalan48]

31. Poverty begets violence.

[oberliner]

32. What can be done to help eradicate both?

[jalan48]

33. Good question. A massive jobs program to get money into the community. Perhaps the

Defense Dept could forgo a few billion to help fund it.