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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpike Lee Wants Us to Respect Our White Allies: 'White People Have Died For Justice'
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/spike-lee-wants-us-to-respect-our-white-allies-white-p-1828175768-
Lee never holds his tongue. In fact, instead of addressing your lil president by name, he calls him Agent Orange or more affectionately, Orange Motherfucker, which is what he called him during our very candid chat.
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TR: I was moved towards the end of the movie where you show protest footage from now, drawing a parallel to Klan activity in the past. There was a moment where I paused because you chose to show a lot of non-black people protesting ...
SL: Heres the thing, my sister. If you look the civil rights movement, white people died in Mississippi, Alabama, Kent State during the Vietnam protests. White people have died for justice. So it was not a matter of saying, I cant put Heather Heyer at the end of the film because shes not black.
First of all, she was out there protesting those motherfuckers. If you look at Charlottesville footage, those were not all black people protesting, those were good white people who we have alliances with. I didnt tell those people in the film to scream and yell, Black Lives Matter! They were doing it on their own. So I have no problem. Right is right and Heather Heyer is a martyr. She gave her life for justice.
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Charlottesville, that was not just black people out there. I had no hesitation at all showing her face the end. She was courageous. Its not a black and white thing for me. Heather Heyer was on the side of truth, of justice. She was out there trying to say no to the Klan, no to alt-right, no to those motherfucking Neo-Nazis.
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MuseRider
(34,125 posts)I like Spike Lee. I bought the tickets for Saturday night already.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)(On The Root, that is)
Goodheart
(5,345 posts)"We dont have to embrace them [white people] and act like they care about us. They dont. We dont need white people to love us and I think many Black Americans struggle with that concept. They are never going to love us. They are never going to accept us. And we have to be okay with that. We have to stop treating white Americans like theyre parents who hate us. We will never get their approval."
Whoever wrote that is as wrong as he/she could be.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The country would still be in the racial dark ages, something much, much, much worse than today. Cops have always killed Black people unjustly in some cases, but in the 50s, 40s, 30s, they did it without a smidgen of fear that they would be investigated and maybe jailed. We still have a long way to go, but we are way ahead of where we were.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)understand him and white liberals and I'm pretty sure doesn't want to. Maintaining divisions is important to some. This one really doesn't sound all that bad compared to many, and I can't guess how implacable this is, maybe a lot maybe not all that much.
TheKingofSoup
(11 posts)It is distressing but its not necessarily wrong. There were, and are, a lot of white people who managed to vote right, say the right things, display the right books on their shelves, go to the right meetings and even protests, send checks to the right organizations, etc., all without ever actually believing Black people were the moral and intellectual equal of Whites. Not all, but a lot. And in one way, that can be seen as good enough, but in another, more important way, its really not. And the difference is detectable.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(729 posts)board are from russian trolls. Besides, at least HALF of my family is white, not to mention my husband. SMDH
demosincebirth
(12,543 posts)Are not old enough to remember that. Also, two white students were murdered, along with a black student by clansmen who evaded justice for decades
BeyondGeography
(39,383 posts)or any other safe space where relatively nothing of personal consequence is at stake.
spicysista
(1,663 posts)?itok=XEGhGul0
G_j
(40,372 posts)thank you!
spicysista
(1,663 posts)Raine
(30,541 posts)for posting these pictures!
spicysista
(1,663 posts)mountain grammy
(26,656 posts)And thank you Splke Lee.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)spicysista
(1,663 posts)According to SNOPES and later confirmed by the Sanders' campaign.....
Bernie Sanders Marched with MLK at Selma?
A photograph doesn't show Bernie Sanders marching from Selma to Montgomery in 1965 with Martin Luther King, Jr.
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CLAIM
A photograph shows Bernie Sanders at a 1965 civil rights march with Martin Luther King, Jr. See Example( s )
EXAMPLES
Collected via e-mail, January 2016
Did Bernie Sanders really march from Selma to Montgomery? People seem to think it's him in this photo:
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RATING
False
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ORIGIN
On 20 January 2016, the web site Democratic Underground posted a photograph purportedly showing Bernie Sanders participating in a 1965 civil rights march from Selma to Montgomery (Alabama) with Martin Luther King, Jr. The web site identified the man standing behind Coretta King, just right of Old Glory in the glasses, white t shirt, open collar and dark jacket as the future United States senator and 2016 Democratic presidential candidate:
bernie sanders selma
The man pictured in the above-displayed photograph does bear a resemblance to a young Bernie Sanders, but that similarity isnt sufficient by itself to confirm that Sanders took part in the 1965 Selma to Montgomery march:
The above-displayed image was taken on 26 March 1965, and a caption to the photograph provided by licenser Corbis Images identifies Martin Luther King, Jr. along with several other prominent political leaders but makes no mention of Bernie Sanders:
Dr. Martin Luther King (C) leads thousands of civil rights demonstrators out on the last leg of their Selma to Montgomery 50-mile hike. Others identifiable in the front row include John Davis (2nd from L) of SNCC, Kings aide Reverend Ralph Abernathy (3rd from L), Dr. Ralph Bunche (5th from L), Mrs. King (next to her husband) and Reverend Hosea Williams (carrying little girl, R).
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This photograph has been widely available for decades, but it wasnt until January 2016 that Bernie Sanders name became associated with a face in the crowd. Although Sanders has stated that he did participate in the landmark March on Washington civil rights event of August 1963 (where Martin Luther King, Jr. delivered his iconic I Have a Dream speech), we havent found any record of Sanders claiming that he was also present at any other civil rights march involving Martin Luther King, Jr:
On the national holiday named for the civil rights leader, Sen. Bernie Sanders called the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., one of the great leaders in American history. Sanders, then a college student, was in the crowd on The Mall in Washington when King delivered his I have a dream speech from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. We must never forget his heroic efforts to end segregation and racial injustice. It is also important, however, to remember that he fought for a society in which all people had good jobs at good wages and that quality education and health care were available to all. At a time when we have an almost record number of Americans living in poverty, obscene levels of income and wealth inequality and millions working longer hours for lower pay, we still have much to learn from Dr. Kings extraordinary life.
As Mother Jones noted, Sanders active participation in the Civil Rights movement was brief and localized and effectively ended in 1963:
Sanders involvement was brief and localized, his sacrifices limited to one arrest for protesting and a bad GPA from neglecting his studies. But Sanders was, in his own right, an active participant in the movement during his three years at the University of Chicago.
Although Sanders did attend the 1963 March on Washington, at which Lewis spoke, most of his work was in and around Hyde Park, where he became involved with the campus chapter of CORE [Congress of Racial Equality] shortly after transferring......
For complete article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sanders-mlk-selma-march/
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Damn internet! I hadn't researched that enough. I just knew he had an activist past and found that picture.
I'd still give him props for marching and organizing protests in his youth anyways, even if not in that particular march. Such as....
During Sanders first year in Chicago, a group of apartment-hunting white and black students had discovered that off-campus buildings owned by the university were refusing to rent to black students, in violation of the schools policies. CORE organized a 15-day sit-in at the administration building, which Sanders helped lead.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/bernie-sanders-core-university-chicago/
spicysista
(1,663 posts)Thanks for link!
PurgedVoter
(2,220 posts)Conservative has meant racist since the beginning. When they say conservative values, they mean hatred. Ask a conservative to name one conservative value. They will look around the room first to see if they can unload racist bull. That is all they got.
brush
(53,896 posts)KT2000
(20,588 posts)the arc of justice must have many, many people in it to get there.
Raine
(30,541 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,470 posts)I recently re-watched Do the Right Thing for the first time in many years. It is a masterpiece. I love everything about it.
BeyondGeography
(39,383 posts)Spikes a great human. Deeply loyal too, as any Knick fan will tell you.
Hekate
(90,837 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)We can only defeat racism if we ALL work together.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Though people will differ on what exactly is an injustice. But there are things we can all agree on. Charlottesville, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, the pics of Obama as a witchdoctor and the like.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Since I see everyone in the struggle for justice as my ally.
Then I thought about it and realized I am thinking like a 50 year old white male and African Americans do not have the privilege to make that assumption that whites are their allies.
3 years on DU has made me realize that and I am thankful. Why I love this site.
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)This was in the 50's and early 60's, they did exist. He would use his vacation time every year to go march with the NAACP in peaceful demonstration. He was white and would be up front so that if law enforcement or anybody else chose to wreak violence on the marchers he'd be the first to take it if anything came down.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)allies. It's the hateful subculture I do not respect. Schwerner, Chaney, Goodman, Viola Luizzo, Heather Heyer to name just a few of many KIA, and all the WIA's I put my hand out too. I have bled with them, literally. Spiro Agnew got me hit in the head by a nightstick-truncheon. It hurt. I respect anyone on the line... All allies and comrades to me. No problem. It's the snakes in the grass that makes me careful.....they'll be in D.C. this weekend.