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turbinetree

(24,757 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 01:02 PM Aug 2018

The completely bonkers reason white supremacists are allowed to rally with guns in Charlottesville

No, the Second Amendment does not protect them.

IAN MILLHISER AUG 9, 2018, 12:31 PM

This weekend marks the one year anniversary of the “Unite the Right” rally, a white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Virginia that culminated in the death of counter-protester Heather Heyer.

In anticipation of the possibility that racist groups will commit similarly violent acts this weekend, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) and the city of Charlottesville itself have both declared states of emergency. Charlottesville officials in particular have “announced a security perimeter downtown that will include blocked streets, limited parking and pedestrian checkpoints,” beginning at 6 pm Friday. The city has also provided a long list of items that will be banned from this secure area, as they could potentially be used as weapons.

Interim City Manager Mike Murphy has prohibited the following items within the downtown security area: BB guns, pellet guns, air rifles or pistols, paintball guns, nunchucks, Tasers or other stun guns, heavy-gauge metal chains, lengths of lumber or wood, poles, bricks, rocks, metal beverage or food cans or containers, glass bottles, axes, axe handles, hatchets, ice picks, acidic or caustic materials, hazardous or flammable or combustible liquids, skateboards, swords, knives, daggers, razor blades or other sharp items, metal pipes, pepper or bear spray or Mace, aerosol sprays, catapults, wrist rockets, bats, sticks, clubs, drones, explosives, fireworks, open fire or open flames and any other item considered to be an “implement of riot.”

Yet, as Charlottesville’s Daily Progress reports, this list does not include one very notable weapon. Nunchucks, swords, paintball guns, and “lengths of lumber” may be banned, but real guns are not. “[Handguns] are not on that list,” Charlottesville Police Chief RaShall Brackney told the Daily Progress. “We have to honor your Second Amendment rights.”

Local police are, indeed, bound by the Second Amendment. But as it happens, there is no Second Amendment right permitting a violent white supremacist to bring a gun to the site of a deadly rally on that rally’s anniversary during a lawfully designated state of emergency. It is possible that Virginia state law restricts Charlottesville’s ability to keep guns away from the secured area, but that’s the fault of the state legislature — and it is also something the state legislature could have fixed. The Second Amendment does not say what Brackney claims that it says.

https://thinkprogress.org/the-completely-bonkers-reason-white-supremacists-are-allowed-to-rally-with-guns-in-charlottesville-70980f01ebe8/


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The completely bonkers reason white supremacists are allowed to rally with guns in Charlottesville (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2018 OP
More gun nut insanity Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #1
Exactly. MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
Yepper, spot on.............. turbinetree Aug 2018 #5
Exactly. joshcryer Aug 2018 #11
Here are white wing racist gunners marching last year. Gunners and trump OK with it. Hoyt Aug 2018 #2
send those assholes onethatcares Aug 2018 #6
What a bunch of total losers. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #7
They need musical accompaniament gratuitous Aug 2018 #8
Perfect. I forgot about that patriot. Hoyt Aug 2018 #9
Oh look--the hick in the back his his genuine confederate hat on. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #12
The string pullers reeeeeally want a war Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #3
Sounds like the police chief is asking for trouble. GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #10

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
1. More gun nut insanity
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 01:05 PM
Aug 2018

First of all, nowhere in the second amendment does it say "guns." It says "arms", and that would technically include every item on the banned list. So if you're going to honor this ridiculous interpretation of the second amendment, then you have to allow all those other items too.

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
11. Exactly.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 03:38 PM
Aug 2018

This may get a court test after someone is arrested for carrying a sword or some shit and equal protection doesn't get respected.

onethatcares

(16,247 posts)
6. send those assholes
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 02:54 PM
Aug 2018

to Afghanistan. Bring some the the troops home. Especially include the woman to the right side with grey hair and a blue top.

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