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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy doctor asked me if I was on social media
Yesterday, I went for my yearly checkup.
After the med stuff, my doctor asked my what I do in my spare time
I told him about exercise, reading, etc, etc. And then I mentioned I spend time online.
His reaction was "Social Media?"
I told him I never go to Facebook, Twitter, or any of the social sites.
He breathed a sigh of relief. Although an MD, he went on to give me a short lecture about social network sites and mental health.
It was a lecture I didn't need. My feelings/beliefs are the same as his.
So what's my point?
If you're on social network sites, get off. Stop telling the world about yourself, and stop listening to or reading about crap that may or may not be true.
Social media could have been a blessing and a curse. Turns out it's more of a curse that anyone could have imagined.
I know that I'm going to take a ton of crap for this post from many people for many reasons.
Nonetheless, please allow me to say this to you. Get off of social media. And stay off. Forever.
GeorgeGist
(25,315 posts)YMMV
yuiyoshida
(41,829 posts)And No doctor, I don't care if his wall is FULL OF DIPLOMAS is going to tell me what to do about my twitter account. Its how I met and fell in love with Juju...
JuJuYoshida
(2,215 posts)catbyte
(34,358 posts)died and we're very happy. It wouldn't have happened if not for FB because we were in different cities. You just can't lose yourself in it. I can't remember the last time I posted anything personal on either FB or Twitter. If I've got something to share, I PM it to trusted friends. The world doesn't need to know--nor do they care--who my sweetie & I ran into on vacation.
yuiyoshida
(41,829 posts)and I live in San Francisco, we meet every day on IMVU, and are very happy together!
we also smoke weed together!
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)I go to twitter and facebook and don't have any problem.
yuiyoshida
(41,829 posts)Mostly because FB accidently showed my home address...the LAST THING I need is a redneck
showing up at my door with his 2nd Amendment rights in his hand, willing to blow me away because I liked the BLACK DUDE in the White house before TRUMP.
Twitter doesn't need my home address, or my cell phone number, to accidentally publish. FB walked over the line, and I pulled the plug.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Where you live, your gf, pictures, weed habit, etc..I cannot help but think that if fb walked over the line it was because you put all that out there.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,829 posts)On Twitter I may talk about San Francisco and I have even said I live blocks from Japantown but that is a huge area filled with many Asians who look like me. Its gonna be hard to find me in a neighborhood full of Asian Americans, many who speak their own languages, ne?
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)phylny
(8,375 posts)I do go on social media, and I do know it's been detrimental to my physical health (blood pressure up since Donald was elected) and my mental health as well.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)it's trump and the republicans and the trashing of the constitution and the peril we are all in at this point that is harmful to all of our health.
immediately after the election i got a prescription for klonopin from my doctor and it wasn't because of social media - it was because trump. (don't worry, i only take about 2/week). even when my daughter died, i never did that, but i had to maintain professionalism at work among one or 2 people who I discovered I no longer respected or even wanted to be in the same room with.
i think my grammar sucks right now.
pnwmom
(108,972 posts)phylny
(8,375 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)I won't give you any crap, but....
Folks sitting in their beds at night looking at screens in the dark.....it is said to be causing health problems.
Disrupting sleep patterns, stress issues, vision issues, yes cognitive issues.
People used to read with normal illumination before bed, or watch TV from across the room.
Now the screens up close in the dark is thought to be causing health issues
/conspiracy theory out/
my first computer set me off on a messed up sleep pattern. I'm still trying to correct it but there are advantages to staying up half the night - fewer interruptions to get my work done. I know I could still manage my computer time better for earlier sleep time.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)and DU.
I have some FB friends who, in my opinion, wallow in self-pity. I don't comment to them about that, because we are not all that close, and what do I really know about their lives? But sometimes it feels as if they take great pride in their dysfunction.
I've also gotten so I rarely comment on FB, and not as often here as I used to. What I often do is type out my response or opinion, and then don't post it. I've gotten my feeling out, just not out there.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)I do consider DU as social media, btw.
erronis
(15,216 posts)I enjoy exchanging opinions with others here.
I do participate in a bunch of tech-oriented groups that have all the aspects of social media but are also trying to solve real world (if tech is real) problems.
hibbing
(10,095 posts)I still get some good information and fun from it, but it seems to be turning into even more of a cesspool. I think I am going to take a break from it.
Hasn't DU been social media before the term social media was commonplace?
Peace
Cyrano
(15,031 posts)But DU is a site where thoughtful posts are met with responsible, sensible replies, or with mindless nonsense that is usually replied to and quickly exposed for what it is.
Comparing DU to Facebook is like comparing Forrest Gump to MENSA.
Well, I think I went overboard there. Anyone can say anything on Facebook. DU has lots of members who will call out foolishness and reply intelligently.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)My Facebook friends are of equal caliber to my DU friends. My feed has posts like you find here, with meaningful discussion, along with the support of friendship.
sl8
(13,702 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)ancianita
(36,009 posts)DU is like most Internet forums. who call themselves by that name, and don't call themselves social media -- reddit, something awful, etc. DU's entire "Main" categories call themselves forums, and other sections call themselves "Groups."
Social media don't contain either discussion boards or forums. They contain mostly pages, Opening Post threads, with groups as a minor population; and no forums.
By analogy, both have social genes and media genes, but the animals those genes make are different species.
DU?
narrowly, technically social;
narrowly, technically media,
broadly, media as in news aggregator;
broadly social as in pleasant.
But DU is also a self-selected one-party political community; it welcomes Democrats; it does not welcome anyone from other political arenas; its participants also participate in social media, and its content is in furthering the interests of the Democratic Party as a model for governance.
DU can in the broadest sense, do what social media do, -- it can have real time message pace, world reach and broader topic range -- and in the sense that one species can do some of the things another species does. But DU cannot sustain what other social media do, such as being fast-paced 24 hours a day; it's much more analytical, informative, wide ranging in discussion. Because it is a self identified forum.
All animals are species, not all species are animal.
You can insist on the narrow rightness of defining DU as social media, but it's not.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)DU was here before Facebook so when Facebook became the latest thing, everybody and their brother posted stuff from Facebook here. It became overrun with people screaming about what they saw on Facebook. Before Facebook, it was chain email, lol.
Now twitter seems to be setting the pace for DU. Look at all the tweets that get posted as discussion starters. We didn't need that before but now the tweets are influencing the topics. So, while technically not social media, DU is heavily influenced by social media.
In that respect, the forum is every bit as fast paced as those other platforms.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,845 posts)I really come here for the news. I'm so sick of the Mainstream shit. The social stuff makes me feel comfortable. It lets me know that I am in a safe crowd but that is not why I come here day after day.
ProfessorGAC
(64,951 posts)News aggregator is an apt descriptor
We have some really active seekers who find things I'd never bother to locate!
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)It is hysterical the OP doesn't get that it is.
True Dough
(17,294 posts)in addition to social networking. It can be frustrating, rewarding, informative and entertaining. Not about to give it up, but I always try to take it much of it with a grain of salt.
japple
(9,818 posts)down in ALL the right places. My dr. is part of a "faith" based health practice--the Seventh Day Adventist health care regemin and every single doc is now pushing plant-based diets. I think their diet/exercise program is excellent. I gave up dairy, which I had a sensitivity to anyway (probably an addiction) and have lost weight, inches, skin problems, yeast problems, allergies and a host of other health issues.
On a side note: my family grows a whole lot of our own food--peas, corn, tomatoes, blueberries, blackberries, herbs, figs, green beans, lima beans. Most of our existence during the winter is from the pulses (peas) that we grow and freeze during the summer. We try to buy local eggs and things that we can't grow here. We also depend on Kroger, Publix, and Ingles Markets for breads (LaBrea Bakery), and other spaghetti, baking ingredients, and things we can't grow.
I didn't tell him "screw the religious part of your regemin," because he is still in that bubble, but I never ascribed to that part anyway. I was really surprised/rewarded that my dedication to giving up dairy has paid off tremendously. I didn't give up beer, tho. I won't give up my IPA or my other pleasures.
Peace out~~~
PS: He didn't ask and I didn't tell him that the reason my BP is elevated is because I read the news on DU every a.m. I also work with animal rescue, so that is a given!!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)KT2000
(20,571 posts)and that is a relief to me because he is not a pharmaceutical pusher. Religion has never come up, thank goodness.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)maxsolomon
(33,265 posts)My FB mainly consists of friends commiserating about the Dotard and sharing pics of their vacations. I'm not seeing fake stories or encountering Russian bots because I'm not a Conservative Dipshit.
DU is more stressful, honestly. My impression lately is that half of DU is retired people yelling back as MSNBC's daytime programming.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)On FB I am myself and I know everyone else who posts. And I belong to about 40 groups. Sure every once in while there is a little bit of back and forth. We are mostly trying to get things done and arrange events.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)There is actually a LOT of good stuff on TV. You just have to choose wisely. Same thing with social media. If you choose your social media friends wisely, your feed will not be a cesspool.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)The content is almost entirely user contributed. People create and share ideas and content. It's largely self moderated and is prone to trolling and other manipulation tactics. This platform can and has been gamed by a minority to shut down or control discussion. It uses affirmation, reciprocation and metric information (i.e. thumbs up, recs, comments, comment count of individual users, stars, hearts) to incentivize user participation which can promote or amplify compulsive behavior.
Cyrano
(15,031 posts)A bunch of "old people" playing around in a world that no longer exists?
Stars, hearts, thumbs up, etc, are just ways to reinforce/support others. There are no zombie or walking dead activities involved in such support.
As far as the beliefs expressed here, they are, of course, Democratic. That's why it's called Democratic Underground.
If a similar Republican site existed, given today's GOP, I'm sure there would be no problem calling it "Neo-Nazi-Ville." And I leave it to you to explain why it would not be named as such.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)I was commenting on the similarity DU shares with other social media like Facebook and Twitter. The recs, thumbs ups, "+1" directly correlate to a Facebook thumbs up or a twitter like or retweet. Mass adoption of sites like Twitter and Facebook make the inherent ills of social media more apparent, but the side effects have long been codified. I've been on the internet in its many forms for 25 years and I've been witness to trolling and bots since the 90s and before that I was aware of the addictive nature of dial-in BBS services. The point is whether it's the DU or Twitter or the comment section of an article on nytimes.com you're not going to ever completely avoid all the issues that are associated with human beings interacting with each other (or at least trying to interact).
barbtries
(28,787 posts)and i heartily agree.
i must say that though i joined twitter in 2011, i was never active until after trump became president, and one of the reasons was that there were so many twitter posts on DU that i wanted to respond to!
tandem5
(2,072 posts)I had signed up earlier, but I didn't start really using it until after the election. I like it for its ability to distill all the news that happens in a day. The downside, of course, is that it's the solution to its self-created problem: How can one be updated on the fight against Trump on a second-by-second basis?
barbtries
(28,787 posts)there's never been anything like this. i never thought my country would come to this. I also like the validation, of knowing i'm not alone. corporate media fails regularly, just one example, trump's mental health. but that's another conversation.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)When you get right down to it, DU is a an old dial-up WWIV BBS* on steroids. Facebook is just DU on speed.
* I saw your other post and figured you would get the reference to the old cookie-cutter PC bbs.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)Oneironaut
(5,490 posts)Social media, imo, is kind of hard to define, but DU isn't it. I would say social media is more defined by its focus on building relationships, networks, and connections rather than discussing ideas. DU, on the other hand, is a forum, because we have a general topic to discuss (politics), and there is no networking or connecting going on.
Imo, DU would be a social media platform if people could follow each other (like having 'friends,' 'followers', etc,), and the emphasis was on our real identities rather than anonymous forum screen names. Sounds awful, right?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)I'm on FB to stay in touch with friends and family, on Twitter to track political news and conversations, on DU because I've been here from the start. These and a couple of other boards are my points of contact to the outside world since I have been stuck at home for a large portion of time now. Do what you and your doctor think is best for you. I'll call my own shots.
Mosby
(16,295 posts)Besides, if anything important is posted I'm sure to see it here, lol.
womanofthehills
(8,685 posts)It's fun to follow lots of bright people and if something big happens you will know it within minutes.
Mosby
(16,295 posts)I do use it for major events and incidents, but when i follow the nba or the suns they sent out pointless tweets several times every day.
.99center
(1,237 posts)Isolate yourself to a relatively small social media site where alt-righters, white Nationalists, and RW trolls are more effective at controlling the narrative.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,311 posts)studies?
Cyrano
(15,031 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,311 posts)Social media is simply a tool. People can use it to build connections and explore new voices. They can use it to bully and hurt. They can use it to mitigate mental health issues they have, or they may find it simply reinforces them. I'd be wary of a doctor who makes a blanket statement like that about it.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)disturbed or losing sleep over social media. If I may be allowed to express my humble opinion.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,311 posts)effect on how someone feels. But that's not a problem with social media; it's how the person is using it. Recommending a total absence tells me this doctor knows little about social media.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)psychiatric disorders and treatment plans related to social media will be established in the near future. Right new its fairly new territory and probably difficult to sort out for health care providers.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Security and safety, I like social media.
What the world is going through with social media is a learning curve that enhances bad actors abilities to take advantage of the unwitting. That will change over time outside of more radical elements having single places to gather online.
Im just an overall fan of it.
Tactical Peek
(1,208 posts)http://www.jaronlanier.com/tenarguments.html
https://www.c-span.org/video/?447079-2/ten-arguments-deleting-social-media-accounts-now
It is a pretty solid case from a computer scientist.
Akacia
(583 posts)But that is because my Facebook just includes close friends and relatives. I have to take DU in small doses or I would get so angry and depressed! I want to know what is going on in the world of politics but ever since this administration I can only look at things for a short time before getting too nuts. I have confirmed what I have always felt about the GOP though, and that is that I hate them and all they stand for with a passion!
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)with you and your wise Doc...I am not on any social media...except for this...and I try not to overdo this...Sometimes when I can't fall asleep, I play a scene from my life that is good....meeting the love of my life on a street corner, a B-Day, campaigning for my pal the DA..I recapture the feeling, etc....and I am happy..
In a million years, I cannot imagine accessing a momento of a day of 6 hours on the computer !!!
YUCK....what waste of life....I am 67 and want to spend everyday left ALIVE...
milestogo
(16,829 posts)I use twitter and facebook to give and receive information about a well-developed interest of mine. There's no garbage, anger, obscenity, or politics involved.
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)KT2000
(20,571 posts)who are glued to fox, hate websites, and conspiracy sites. They are likely presenting with anger issues and the health effects from that. They probably want to talk about their politics too.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hmmmmm.
But you're right. I joined FB ONLY to participate in my community's group. Where we ask for repairman suggestions, local news, traffic, weather, lost and found pets. But it can become addictive...and there are several far right white males who are hostile and bullies. Unpleasant. I've pulled back from participating in it. It takes too much time, really.
pnwmom
(108,972 posts)samnsara
(17,613 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)is social media.
Mr.Bill
(24,262 posts)I don't post much there, but reading their posts make me feel far more intelligent than I probably really am. I usually feel great and even get a few laughs after spending a little time there.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)💙🇺🇸🌊
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)FB I'm not anon or neither are my friends. We are mostly about getting things. We're active in state and local politics. DU just doesn't have strong support for state and local political events. I'm always volunteering for campaigns and I do it via FB.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)I tell a limited amount about myself. To friends, relatives, crushes, anyone. Advertise my life on social media?? Just IMO, but that is crazy. Besides, real human contact is so much more enriching. When I know someone I disagree with, I can always learn something from them. That is except for trump humpers. Haters are a mystery to me. Just never knew there were so many of them.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Im not so sure Im supposed to go through life without high blood pressure. DU keeps me informed. I dont think babies in cages or kids who cant yet vote getting shot at at school want us to chill and shut down social media. They expect us to attend these little town halls where we meet up and strategize. I think these cites promote democracy. I am sorry the RWers also have access but thats what we are up against. I say stay online.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)unblock
(52,163 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)I cannot LIVE without checking facebook and twitter every 15 seconds.
I MIGHT MISS SOMETHING!
pnwmom
(108,972 posts)Tell your doctor about posting on DU and ask him what he thinks about that.
As someone who lives thousands of miles away from most of my high school and college friends, I've found FB to be a nice way to stay in touch. I am talking to people I had lost track of for twenty years. And I share the same kinds of articles I share here. Why is sharing an article from the WA Post or Mother Jones fine here but not on FB?
Gore1FL
(21,116 posts)How does thew URL make a difference?
progree
(10,900 posts)discussion format.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)we live all over the country.
i became active on twitter because not everyone in my family appreciates the fact that our democracy is teetering on the precipice of extinction.
your OP deserves "a ton of crap" because it's not your place to tell people what to do or not to do. You could have just ended your post "he breathed a sigh of relief."
i'm not telling you to do social media. i don't think you should tell me not to. that's all. you can say you don't believe it's healthy but of course you'll get some push back when you try to tell people what they can and can't do.
i only do that with voting. #GOTV! #VoteBlue
by the way you just told the world about yourself. also you don't know me. peace.
Texasgal
(17,042 posts)asked me of I was on Social Media!
That is crossing the line of professionalism! Good GRIEF!
Cyrano
(15,031 posts)psychologically caused or related.
Most competent doctors today will inquire about your mental well-being. They are not trying to be psychiatrists. They are looking for possible causes that can affect your physical well being.
Texasgal
(17,042 posts)I'm in the medical field... Trust me, NO one would ask a question like that in mainstream medical care. If it was a mental care professional I could understand it more but a mainstream medical doc has NO business asking a patient that kind of crap!
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Yeah, no.
The doctor is a quack and unprofessional, and you need to change health care professionals.
And leave DU, since DU is also social media. It is actually was PROTO social media.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)we're talking to ourselves alone?
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)I would think that a more disturbing indicator.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)If you said said yes and how else can I keep up with all the Clinton pedophilia ?, he may have had some other questions for you to determine your mental health status , a separate additional exam if he was concerned. I think that's OK
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I have seen people using facebook ripped to shreds by the sheer energy of quantum stuff then shink to an infinitesimally small point and sucked into a micro black hole that spewed them into a universe that only plays the Lucy show for eternity. I have seen this!
I have seen people using twitter turn into a small bird then fly directly into an electric fan as if drawn there by some unnatural force. I have seen this with my own eyes! Oh the humanity!
Btw, I agree with your Dr.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)And, that includes social media.
Unlike your doctor, I can handle it. Unlike your doctor, I know it is the best platform for rallying and call to actions.
It is also HYSTERICAL you really don't get DU is an absolutely social media, too.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I don't get into arguments on Twitter because I feel it's a total waste of time, and I don't get any of my politics from there. I enjoy the "news" and silly stuff I see on Twitter because I've deliberately eliminated the blood-pressure-raisers.
Facebook ? I don't use it. If I want to talk to my brother, I pick up the phone.
DU is a form of social media too. I try not to get stressed out from the stuff I read about Trump here.
I don't use Instagram, Snapchat, etc etc.
My point ? You can use social media if you maintain a healthy perspective and avoid "excessive" exposure to content that's going to make you angry or depressed, etc. Some people just love to argue on social media. Not me.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Thats an odd question for a medical professional to ask.
ismnotwasm
(41,971 posts)I like social media, I dont overuse it, Im certainly not addicted to it. I find myself on it when I feel like it, leave it alone at other times. I a have a full, rich and busy life. I work, todays my day off. Right now Im watching birds in my backyarda hummingbird is taking a bath on our fountain- Whoops, just got scared by a chickadee...and browsing DU. After that I have some art projects that I will do while listening to very loud music
Interestingly, What I dont do is watch TV. A little here and there. I read tons. Lately a lot of fantasy just to take a little pressure off by going to a different world. I keep current on events though, because I care.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and those that cannot handle it....every new media is always blamed...one time it was newspapers..ATM's...
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)And what's the age cutoff?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)she is in her 80's and queen of social media... I can't even match her...
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)or do I need to add
If it's not blatantly obvious...
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Now more than ever, we need to get on social media and do our small part to counter the disinformation and BS online and spread FACTS.
Facebook personally, is a different animal. I am off Facebook almost 95% now and never talked politics while active. I'll be keeping it because friends and distant family take the time to post happy birthday wishes on my birthday. That's it.
But Twitter can be fun and informative if you follow the right people, plus it's good to keep informed on local events leading to November's election by following your candidate.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Inquiring minds........