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triron

(22,009 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:14 PM Aug 2018

I am reading Corn and Isikoff's book "Russian Roulette"

They mention the announcement on July5 2016 about "110 emails that had classified information at the tine they were sent".
I recall Comey's later testimony before congress where there was discussion of only 3 emails that were
marked with a "c" but there was no classified headers on any of these. Thus Hillary wasn't properly notified that these emails had classified information. How did 110 become 3? What am I missing? Sorry for bringing this up but it bugs me.

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I am reading Corn and Isikoff's book "Russian Roulette" (Original Post) triron Aug 2018 OP
I recommend that book JonLP24 Aug 2018 #1
Write to David Corn and ask! eleny Aug 2018 #2
Most of the 110 didn't have markings clearly delineating their status oberliner Aug 2018 #3
That makes sense. Thanks! triron Aug 2018 #5
You're welcome oberliner Aug 2018 #8
I believe the issue was that certain emails FakeNoose Aug 2018 #4
The whole email 'scandal' was a fiasco perpetrated by the repukes. triron Aug 2018 #6
As I understand it they were exboyfil Aug 2018 #7
One example I saw was an E-mail sent to her mentioning American drone strikes. Even though everyone Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #9

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I recommend that book
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:16 PM
Aug 2018

I'm still at the section about the pop star. Sorry, can't help with your question though

triron

(22,009 posts)
5. That makes sense. Thanks!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:27 PM
Aug 2018

It perturbs me that Corn and Isikoff fail to clarify this. They make it look bad for Hillary,
unjustifiably so.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. You're welcome
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:34 PM
Aug 2018

It's all so ridiculous that "Hillary's emails" was even a big deal at the time considering what we are dealing with today.

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
4. I believe the issue was that certain emails
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:26 PM
Aug 2018

...discuss issues that were not considered classified at the time that Hillary wrote them, or received them.

They became classified at a later date retro-actively, and therefore Jim Comey's group didn't consider them a violation when they looked into it.

Hillary never sent emails that contained classified info to people who didn't have security clearance, she was always careful. Security protocols were always maintained, in spite of the fact that the Repugs looked for every reason to crucify her, they never found a single instance of her violating security protocols.


exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
7. As I understand it they were
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:29 PM
Aug 2018

stripped of their classification or involved classified information not actually from a document. This was (and probably still is) a common practice to facilitate government action in departments like State (probably Defense, Homeland Security and even Justice I would suspect). The argument would be that she should have known what was classified (I don't know if it was a valid argument). The emails originated in general from the unclassified government system by lower level employees in these departments. Those who originated them bare the brunt of responsibility for stripping and sending the documents. In some cases she forwarded or replied to the emails as well.

If it had all stayed in the government system, she would not have had as much of a problem. The problem is that the emails were mixed with her personal email (an insane thing to be done in my opinion but also a regular occurrence for higher level department leadership - Powell, Condi Rice's aids, etc. all having done it). I think the server thing is a red herring. Why does it matter whether it was on her personal server or AOL. They might be just as unrecoverable (see Powell) on that system and probably even less secure.

I am sure if she had it to do over again she would not have had personal and government emails in the same account, and she would have kept all government emails on the unclassified government system.

The classification system is really out of control in the US government, but in many cases you may never know why something is classified. I do know that when I worked in a classified environment, I took it very seriously (unlike one senior manager who left a Secret document under a blueprint when he went to lunch and later forgot about it until it was found be a guard).

Midnight Writer

(21,780 posts)
9. One example I saw was an E-mail sent to her mentioning American drone strikes. Even though everyone
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 02:15 AM
Aug 2018

knows American drones are striking targets in the Mideast, officially it is a classified program. The Republicans seized on this as a violation of classified material, even though the reference was from news reports.

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