Our Revolution/Ocasio endorsed Hawaii candidate who used campaign donations to pay his rent

[John Gruff]

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The group Our Revolution publicly endorses Kaniela Ing for Hawaii's First District (HI-01).
Yesterday, Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez visited Mr. Ing, whom she endorsed:

As reported in Roll Call, Mr. Ing was fined back in June because he "used $2,125 to pay rent and $219 to make a payment on his domestic partner’s credit card account. He deposited a $2,000 campaign check into his personal account and never reported it, according to the commission."

Experts were puzzled by the fact that Ing avoided jail:

"Ing avoided jail time despite the fact Commissioner Gregory Shoda said there were previous cases where far fewer false reports warranted such a penalty.

“The level or the number of violations is astounding basically,” Shoda said. “Every single report is incorrect.”"

Our Revolution, an offshoot of the Bernie Sanders 2016 campaign, often rails against "corrupt" centrist and Left-center candidates.

As I type this, Mr. Ing is currently in fourth place as primary results trickle in: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/hawaii-house-district-1-primary-election

[Snotcicles]

1. Are you on a mission? nt

[Squinch]

10. You noticed that too, huh?

[WhiteTara]

40. same reason corruption bothers us all?

and OR picks interesting candidates to back?

[Cha]

2. Hmmm? No "railing" against

Ing for misusing campaign funds

[OnDoutside]

3. So the candidate for NY-14 goes all the way to Hawaii to stump for a different

candidate.....you can't make this stuff up. Who's paying for all these trips ? There's just something I can't put my finger on here. Is it unprecedented ?

[Cha]

4. And, apparenty not bothered about the OR

candidate's misuse of campaign funds.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[OnDoutside]

6. Yes indeed. It's a real head scratcher.

[comradebillyboy]

35. They're 'revolutionaries', they don't need no stinking rules.

[Cha]

48. Seems to be their attitude. Don't have to pay

attention to them like us mere

I'll tell you what they can do with their attitude.

[still_one]

5. Free trip to Hawaii, who wouldn't?

[oasis]

8. Absolutely no corporate PAC funds were used in this boondoggle.

So there's that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. It's not our revolution; it's Bernie's revolution. The name grates with hubris every time it is used

[Snotcicles]

28. The true motive of this post is reaveled. nt

[dembotoz]

9. Fun to see du rushto support the dem winner of a NY primary

I mean... just damn

[stevenleser]

30. Fun to see the abandonment of "holding feet to the fire" as soon as

the black guy is no longer President

[Cha]

31. Touche'

[stevenleser]

33. Back atcha Cha!

[bigtree]

34. we used to wait until they actually got elected

...not stomp all over nominees with a general election ahead.

Amazing how AOC is the ONLY Dem candidate regularly trashed here for supporting other Democratic candidates in our primary. Here's yet another thread attacking her for such support.

With all of the almost daily anti-AOC threads, you'd think she was the only Democrat supporting other Democratic candidates in our primary. This effort is a good example why we have the rule against attacking our nominees, no matter how much it might advantage someone's politics.

[stevenleser]

36. You are splitting hairs. I'll give you this much, Obama had barely been elected

when he was being slammed for his cabinet choices by the same folks complaining about criticism of AOC.

The precedent set is we can criticize any Democrat for their choices at any time.

Those of you who don’t like that should have stood up more vigorously for Obama. It’s too late to do it now when it’s your ox being gored.

[Omaha Steve]

37. I caucused and voted twice for Obama

I praised him for his NLRB. Was disappointed in his lack of support for EFCA. How is he not my ox?

OS

[stevenleser]

38. Did you support "holding feet to the fire" then but not now? nt

[Omaha Steve]

39. I think the candidate in the OP should have feet to the fire

Need I say more?

[bigtree]

41. no, I'm not

...DU jury is, though.

That's what gives you room to even argue this with me on this thread disparaging this NY Democratic nominee in much the same way right wing blogs are doing.

Bringing up Obama is a weak cover for this thread, and has nothing to do with you're nonsense about 'holding feet to the fire.'

I must have missed your criticizing posts of other Democratic supporters of candidates with campaign irregularities. Forgive me if I don't divert to the wider DU on this, because it looks an awful like you just zeroed in on this Democratic woman, this nominee - a response much the opposite of your concern about what may have happened to Obama.

[stevenleser]

42. Your flailing attempt to support a hypocritical position is laughable

Once again, google “holding feet to the fire” (without quotes) on DU in the search bar in the upper right yields around 20,000 hits, most of those justifying criticism of Obama.

Most DUers are very familiar with having seen the phrase “holding their feet to the fire” more times than they care to count. You can try to pretend it has nothing to do with criticism of various Democrats, but no one is going to buy that.

[Cha]

47. Oh YES, President Obama's FEET were held to the FIRE

so much.. Supporters had to have their very own Group to get away from the constant FIRE.

Good Point, Steven.

[joshcryer]

52. Huh? Hillary Clinton had a lot of crap flung at her...

...up until the election. Not rehashing primary, this was after the primary.

[oberliner]

11. The Democrat who nominated Bernie at the 2016 DNC convention won her primary in a landslide

[SidDithers]

21. Different HI district...

so, not really relevant to this thread, no?

Sid

[Cha]

29. IKR? Mahalo for explaining that

to the poster, Sid.

[Cha]

12. What a candidate.. misusing campaign funds.. not a

good start.

[bigtree]

13. is this the new anti-AOC channel?

...I thought I had this thing blocked.

[Cha]

16. And yet, you kicked the thread.

[Squinch]

14. John Gruff, in your short tenure at DU, you have specialized in a certain type of post that

always gets a big response. Congratulations, I guess.

I am not a fan of Ocasio Cortez or Our Revolution, but you seem to be concentrating on the wrong things.

[Squinch]

22. Edited: Nevermind. Not playing.

[Squinch]

25. Nice spin, but that's not what you did.

[NCTraveler]

20. +1 Nt

[Cha]

15. Mahalo for your OP, John!

[Agschmid]

58. .

[Cha]

59. Oh Backatcha.

[samnsara]

26. this is what inexperience brings

[Older Than I Look]

27. We need every Democrat we can to win.

What this shows is that Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Our Revolution are not infallible. And the fact that Kaniela Ing came in 5th shows that the constituents of HI-1 just might know a little more about who can best represent them than someone dropping in from 5000 miles away.

[pwb]

32. Always the same theme to your posts.

We get it you don't like this woman. Enough.

[stevenleser]

44. Some folks attempt to shut down discussion when they hear something they don't like and cant

refute it on the merits.

So they are attacking you instead of your points.

[pwb]

49. No

The very first reply to this post agrees with me. Your post is negative and feeds the divide used by the pukes. The links you provided have their favorite word SOCIALIST in the head line. These young people are the up and comers in our party and if they make a few mistakes along the way they are not even close to people like congressman Collins dealing with millions in intentional campaign and election violations. You post about these young people like they are as bad as trump and republicans? They are not even close. If democrats break the law and are convicted then yes they deserve to have their feet held to the fire, but neither has been convicted of anything. They believe in social issues and there is nothing wrong with that. So, no apology, I support democrats all of them because their opponents are all puke assholes.
The new york times link you provided doesn't even show Ing on the page he is so low in the standing. Your post is more about the young lady and you have posted about her before. Remember she is a democrat no matter how many times the pukes and their media call her socialist. She is an American Democrat thats all.
I have read your other posts you mentioned and will enjoy reading your future posts but don't expect an apology every time someone disagrees with you.

[Cha]

46. Wrong.. and here you are Kicking this thread..

I hadn't known about the background on the Ing candidate in Hawaii.

Try refuting the points in the OP.

Your attacking the OP is NOT working.

[pwb]

50. just kicked it again

.

[Cha]

51. Thanks.

[pwb]

53. The post wasn't about Ing it was about the young lady.

And the divide the pukes are trying to create with the word Socialist.

[Cha]

54. Yes it is.

[pwb]

55. It was not just me?

The guy is gone. Something worked. i wasn't trying to get his privileges revoked and i don't think it was my posts that did it. i did not alert on him. Read my NO post above for my feelings on the O P. Peace Cha. Always enjoy your input.

[melman]

56. OP has been ppr'd

Feel free to keep defending them though.

[Cha]

57. Yes, I know. So what?

[melman]

60. So what?

So the person you said was wrong was clearly right.

[Cha]

61. NO, he was NOT.

[backtoblue]

62. Locking

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