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Justice

(7,188 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:55 AM Aug 2018

It's not the "Democrat" Party


Everytime you see the "Democrat" party, object. Object in a comment or response if it is in an article or a tweet or a post. Object verbally if someone says it to you. If you hear it on TV, object, even if it is just in your living room. Object loudly.

It's the DemocratIC Party. Do not let people outside your party rename it.

When people give you a new name instead of using the one you use, that's bullying. If I am Joe, but people start calling me Joey - that's bullying.

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It's not the "Democrat" Party (Original Post) Justice Aug 2018 OP
Thank you! Evergreen Emerald Aug 2018 #1
They wish that it was just one Democrat in the Party. kentuck Aug 2018 #2
True. J_William_Ryan Aug 2018 #3
Not only correct them, but mention the Republic Party. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #4
Or reuglican tavernier Aug 2018 #8
Oh, I have a slew of insulting terms for the creeps, MoonRiver Aug 2018 #12
I like The Trump Party best. tavernier Aug 2018 #13
Yep, it's a good one. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #15
I'm calling them the Banana Republican Party from now on csziggy Aug 2018 #18
Yes n/t dajoki Aug 2018 #19
Well, it's an easy way to identify the "enemy", and especially the dimmer ones. TreasonousBastard Aug 2018 #5
I hate it when repugs use this term Gothmog Aug 2018 #6
Neither are we Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #7
Expos idiocy -- they do not get to rename the Democratic Party malaise Aug 2018 #10
Every time they hear it, Dems should object malaise Aug 2018 #9
this is a major peave of mine especially when I occasional see it here and hlthe2b Aug 2018 #11
Whenever I read it on someone's social media post, I respond phylny Aug 2018 #14
"Democrat Party" is the correct name -- for a political party in Thailand Jim Lane Aug 2018 #16
"When people give you a new name instead of using the one you use, that's bullying... SharonClark Aug 2018 #17
Some history: It came from Frank LUNTZ during GINGRINCH's Contract *ON* America days: UTUSN Aug 2018 #20
Well, what else would you expect from the Republic Party? MrScorpio Sep 2018 #21

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. They wish that it was just one Democrat in the Party.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:59 AM
Aug 2018

Then, they could call it the "Democrat Party".

But there are millions that believe in the democratic principles of government. That is why everyone else calls it the "Democratic Party".

J_William_Ryan

(1,758 posts)
3. True.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:03 AM
Aug 2018

Unfortunately the more that's brought up the more rightwing nitwits will continue to use it.

Conservatives are such children.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
12. Oh, I have a slew of insulting terms for the creeps,
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:29 AM
Aug 2018

but Republic follows the pattern they use with Democrat.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
18. I'm calling them the Banana Republican Party from now on
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 12:01 PM
Aug 2018

Someone on MSNBC called them that the other day after the Brennan fiasco. It fits perfectly.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
7. Neither are we
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:10 AM
Aug 2018

"libtards" but THEY use the word because it upsets up. Same here, they use it because it upsets us. You are not going to change idiocy. Yes, I object to it loudly, but it wont stop them from using it.

malaise

(269,187 posts)
9. Every time they hear it, Dems should object
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:16 AM
Aug 2018

Over and over. Repeat over and over - it is the Democratic Party and we are Democrats and you don't get to rename it.
They will soon realize how much coverage Dems are getting over this. Dems must stress the use of language as well - nouns versus adjectives. Hit harder- stop sitting back and taking it.

hlthe2b

(102,379 posts)
11. this is a major peave of mine especially when I occasional see it here and
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:20 AM
Aug 2018

the user doesn't understand why it is such an issue.

Here's why it is such a damned issue. It's a damned EPITHET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

The term Democrat Party is an epithet for the Democratic Party of the United States,[3][4][5] used disparagingly by the party's opponents.[6] The following appeared in The New York Times in 1984:

The term 'Democrat Party' has been used in recent years by some right-wing Republicans on the ground that the term used by Democrats implies that they are the only true adherents of democracy.[7]

Language expert Roy Copperud said it was used by Republicans who disliked the implication that Democratic Party implied to listeners that Democrats "are somehow the anointed custodians of the concept of democracy".[8] According to Oxford Dictionaries, the use of Democrat rather than the adjective Democratic

is in keeping with a longstanding tradition among Republicans of dropping the –ic in order to maintain a distinction from the broader, positive associations of the adjective democratic with democracy and egalitarianism.[9]

Political commentator William Safire wrote in 1993 that the Democrat of Democrat Party "does conveniently rhyme with autocrat, plutocrat, and worst of all, bureaucrat".[10] In 2006, Hendrik Hertzberg wrote in The New Yorker:

There’s no great mystery about the motives behind this deliberate misnaming. 'Democrat Party' is a slur, or intended to be—a handy way to express contempt. Aesthetic judgments are subjective, of course, but 'Democrat Party' is jarring verging on ugly. It fairly screams 'rat'.[11]

Pollster Frank Luntz tested the phrase with a focus group in 2001, and concluded that the only people who really disliked the epithet were highly partisan Democrats.[12] Political analyst Charlie Cook attributed modern use of the term to force of habit rather than a deliberate epithet by Republicans.[13] Journalist Ruth Marcus stated that Republicans likely only continue to employ the term because Democrats dislike it,[3] and Hertzberg calls use of the term "a minor irritation" and also "the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign".[11]

phylny

(8,389 posts)
14. Whenever I read it on someone's social media post, I respond
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:39 AM
Aug 2018

by saying, "It's the 'Democratic' party. Writing or saying otherwise makes you appear uneducated."

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. "Democrat Party" is the correct name -- for a political party in Thailand
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:01 AM
Aug 2018

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(Thailand)

So if someone thinks they can't discuss U.S. politics without mentioning some foreign political party, just ask them: "Why do you hate America?"

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
17. "When people give you a new name instead of using the one you use, that's bullying...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:51 AM
Aug 2018

If I am Joe, but people start calling me Joey - that's bullying."

Then a lot grandmothers are in big trouble.

UTUSN

(70,744 posts)
20. Some history: It came from Frank LUNTZ during GINGRINCH's Contract *ON* America days:
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 01:53 PM
Aug 2018

It was LUNTZ's heyday making himself a Repuke dirt career out of pseudo-scientifically "testing with focus groups" every phrase and slogan for how it would play to the zombies in the world out there. And all the Repuke politicos would use his list of approved words. And he dictated that "Democrat" (noun substituted for an adjective) pushed negative buttons. Probably because of the mangling of grammatical parts of speech (my speculation). So they all started using it. Even the wingnuts who do it now have forgotten where this came from. One wingnut argued with me about this, saying that there was nothing negative in this usage, that he had heard it all his life.






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