NYT and WaPo have different takes on the flyover states primaries

[question everything]

First, the NYT Astead W. Herndon and Jonathan Martin

Even as Democrats were propelling another round of groundbreaking candidates, they turned to a pair of middle-aged white men to run for governor in a pair of Midwestern states they must keep a foothold in to reclaim the presidency.

In Wisconsin, the party nominated Tony Evers, the 66-year-old state schools superintendent and a longtime educator, to take on the Republican governor, Scott Walker. And in Minnesota, Democrats rallied to Representative Tim Walz, 54, who shifted toward the political center to win the party’s nomination for governor.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/us/politics/primary-takeaways.html

WaPo E, J. Dionne, on the other side has this observation:

The backlash against President Trump and the steady rightward journey of the Republican Party could sharply shift the distribution of political power in state capitals across the nation in this fall’s elections. And because reapportionment is coming, this could change the contours of American politics for more than a decade.

Strengthening that possibility is the success of pragmatic Democrats in gubernatorial primaries who are stressing issues that appeal simultaneously to the center and the left.

On Tuesday, Wisconsin Democrats chose Tony Evers, the state schools superintendent, to face two-term Republican Gov. Scott Walker. In Minnesota, Democrats nominated Rep. Tim Walz to defend his party’s hold on the state’s governorship. Both Evers and Walz advance progressive priorities in areas such as education and health care but cannot be cast as ideologues.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-gifted-democrats-the-next-decade/2018/08/15/7cc312d8-a0c7-11e8-83d2-70203b8d7b44_story.html

(Yes, Dionne, got it right, at least in Minnesota)

[spooky3]

1. Could we please not use the term "flyover state"? It's insulting to people in

several states and it reinforces the myth of the "liberal elite" who dismiss them.

[frazzled]

3. Second the motion

I was going to post the same thing. It’s not only scornful, it’s false: millions of people have their feet planted firmly on the ground in these states, in the vibrant cities of Chicago and Columbus, Milwaukee and Minneapolis. Some of the nation’s greatest public universities are there, and some of the country’s most notable museums and symphonies and theaters. Millions of tourists from all over the world come to visit my city year round.

It’s called the Midwest.

[question everything]

5. Should have used quotations. These writers, especailly the NYT have no understanding of local

politics and clearly see us as "flyover states."

[spooky3]

7. Thanks, but the reason I commented was that I did not see that term in either story. Maybe

I overlooked it.

[question everything]

10. Was not in the story. But when coastal writers are so certain in expressing their opinion

without bothering to learn about the local politics, this is the only interpretation that I can offer. I suppose one can offer other...

[msongs]

2. let's hear it for getting democrats elected! hooray! nt

[Hortensis]

4. These are not the only pieces on this subject in

in those two newspapers alone. They all adopt a viewpoint to push. Next writings have new ones.

While you're questioning everything, maybe question why you bolded white men? What's wrong with white men running in conservative, mostly white states? I think you should examine the notion that there's some failure in this.

[question everything]

6. I was running too fast. The NYT writers have no understanding of local polititcs

and was easy for them to view the winners as "middle aged white men." They certainly used the term in disparaging way.

In contrast, the WaPo looked at them as "pragmatic."

[Hortensis]

8. :). Representative would be

another term for these areas.

We're going to have our first Somali American woman in congress, and that's great, but of course because she made that district's Democrats want her.

[spooky3]

9. I do think the NYTimes article was simplistic in an attempt to

make a point about Dems' embracing diversity. There are many reasons why candidates win or lose their primaries.