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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOmarosa claims Trump is holding wife Melania hostage with a threat to DEPORT the First Lady...
.....if she ever carries out the 'ultimate humiliation' and divorces him
It is the latest Trump-bashing claim to emerge from the new memoir, Unhinged, by Manigault-Newman, who was fired from the White House in December for alleged 'integrity violations'.
'If Melania were to try to pull the ultimate humiliation and leave him while he's in office, he would find a way to punish her,' Manigault-Newman wrote in the book, according to the Mercury News.
Manigault-Newman implied that Trump played some nefarious role in Melania's immigration to the US from Slovenia in 1996 - even though the couple are believed to have first met two years later, in 1998.
[link:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6074949/Omarosa-claims-Trump-DEPORT-Lady-divorces-him.html|
But...but...surely if she followed all the rules when she immigrated he would have no grounds om which to try and sling her out.... *cough*
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Kath2
(3,074 posts)That said, she does seem too intelligent to be with him.
brush
(53,778 posts)JDC
(10,127 posts)Boiled down to being nothing more than an example to his wife that she better not humiliate him.
humiliate this ass any more than he does himself. Going out in public with that orange face, fluffy hairdo, overcoat to mask his fat body. Yeah, he is so presidential and classy. His "kids" are every bit as intelligent as he is, too, meaning not too swift. Maybe he would expose Mrs. tRump as a former escort, as though THAT is a secret.
Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:10 PM - Edit history (1)
He'd say how with all the adversity she still managed to pull herself up by her fuck-me pumps.....errr, I mean bootstraps.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Was not the Trump Modeling Agency just a high priced Escort Service. This is most likely how Trump got the dirt on his Political Opponents.
spike91nz
(180 posts)Always cut a deal with Mueller for witness protectionthat includes retention of citizenship. I suspect she is calculating. For Christ sake she had a child with that sociopath so dont really think she is trying to get away, just yet, but rather looking for exit strategy. Defecting to Russia seems most likely to me.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)Her family kissed the rings of whoever was in power. They havent changed a bit.
Great to know our free country opens its arms to former communists who opposed the West and spied on all their neighbors.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Slovenia, Malignia's country of birth, borders on Italy.
Yugoslavia was not part of the Soviet orbit of buffer states. It was not part of the Warsaw Pact.
Communist does not equal Soviet nor does it equal Russian.
Slovenia (and Croatia) led the anti-Communist breakup of Yugoslavia.
On 8 April 1990 the first multiparty elections in Slovenia (and Yugoslavia) since the 2nd World War were held. Demos coalition won the elections and formed a government which started to implement electoral reform programs.
In the Slovenian independence referendum, 1990, held on 23 December 1990, a vast majority of residents voted for independence. 88.5% of all electors (94.8% of those participating) voted for independence which was declared on 25 June 1991.[59] Both Slovenia and Croatia declared their independence on 25 June 1991.
Bonheur
(31 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Bonheur
(31 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)Communist means, under all circumstances, anti-religious, anti-Christian. Fine with me. Comparable to communists in Italy and Greece. NOT comparable to the RW Christian capitalists they kiss up to now. Melania going to church on Easter. Putin claiming that Christianity is the bedrock of Russia. No Rosa Luxemburg here (or Lech Walesa for conservatives). Just greedy opportunists. Wonder what church her lifelong communist father and mother will pop into next Easter.
Goodheart
(5,324 posts)I don't have an ounce of sympathy or pity for her.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And she has the warm personality of an ice cube. Plus shes just plain boring.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)Melania Trump is a naturalized U.S. citizen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump
A naturalized U.S. citizen can be deported, but only if his or her citizenship is revoked. There are several conditions that, if discovered by the government, can lead to revocation of citizenship. https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html
If Donald Trump sought to deport Melania, he would most likely place himself in legal jeopardy because he was involved in her becoming a permanent resident alien and a citizen.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)machoneman
(4,007 posts)it's highly likely she'd be long deported and still in Slovenia long after any charges, it any, would be brought against Trump, let alone made to stick with any prison sentence. Keep in mind Trump never looks down the road to see if anything he does has long or even mid-term consequences.
mythology
(9,527 posts)She's a naturalized citizen. There wouldn't be a legal way to deport her in the first place. Trump isn't actually all powerful. It's different than the situation with undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers in that she already has all the legal paperwork.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Melania wouldn't know for sure what the lunatic is capable of doing. I am sure she fears him and wouldnt want to take the chance.
Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)I'm convinced she too has ties to Putin, whether directly or through handlers. She's there to make sure he toes the line and sticks to Putin's wish list as well as communicating back to the RUssians.
watoos
(7,142 posts)If she never had work visas but used a tourist visa her citizenship could be voided because she lied to immigration.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)but she petitioned to become a permanent resident alien in 2000, two years after she met Donald Trump based on an "Einstein visa". https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/questions-linger-about-how-melania-trump-a-slovenian-model-scored-the-einstein-visa/2018/02/28/d307ddb2-1b35-11e8-ae5a-16e60e4605f3_story.html?utm_term=.023aadbc367d
IMO, Donald Trump was more than likely involved with Melania's petition.
I would think that if federal authorities started investigating Melania on the entry visa, they would most likely expand the investigation into Donald Trump's involvement with her green card and citizenship.
kcr
(15,317 posts)I could easily hear him threaten a naturalized citizen with revoking their citizenship to get them to do what he wants, even if it's his wife. He's not rational with his threats and claims. So even though on its face it sounds like an outrageous claim, given who the subject is and how he behaves, it suddenly becomes plausible.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Your explanation is rational, and I think he would do it.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)that it was Melania's parents that were vulnerable. They just became citizens. Trump could have been promising Melania that her parents could become naturalized if she didn't leave him. Meanwhile, all the talk of taking away the citizenship of some immigrants could be intended as a threat toward Melania and her parents.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)He has been Melania's guarantee of citizenship and a life of luxury for her and her family as long as she abided by his wishes.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)It is how he gets what he wants out of people - bully, threaten, intimidate, and if necessary, buy people off as long as there is an NDA involved. And I don't think he does it just for leverage, I think he actually enjoys torturing people and watching them sweat, like a perverse sadistic game. He seems addicted to cruelty.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)There's plenty of other evidence that he still doesn't fully grasp the difference between being President and being CEO of a business that's not publicly held. A lot of CEOs would have the experience of being at least partially constrained by shareholders, a Board of Directors, and the SEC's oversight of publicly traded companies, but Trump doesn't even have that.
To his L'etat, c'est moi mindset, he could revoke a naturalization as easily as he revokes a security clearance or nullifies a criminal conviction with a pardon.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)At the precise moment she's trying to sell a book? It doesn't make any sense.
Bonheur
(31 posts)I don't believe a word out of Omarosa's mouth, unless she can back it up with one of her recordings...
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)wife told a French newspaper when they returned from their trip here. Mrs. Macron said melanoma felt like a prisoner.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)to divorce him, not like she'd be broke if she did.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,190 posts)and we know Trump is a greedy motherfucker. Sure, she would get child support, but Barron is already 12. I wouldn't be surprised if she agreed to next to nothing. She met Trump when she was 28, rapidly approaching her expiration date as a model. Sure, she was on a few magazine covers , but she never achieved super model status so her long term career prospects were nil. So marrying a rich old guy and having a kid was her only hope. Considering his physical condition, diet and lack of exercise, she probably thought he would be dead by now and she would be a young widow with a big inheritance.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)I wouldn't count on any kind of generosity from any of the other family members except, maybe, her kid.
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts)djacq
(1,634 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Trump has been through 2 divorces already, one of which was a war of the roses type divorce.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)
This would be a step too far, even for him, image-wise.
More likely he's given her or would withhold, ten million dollars. Follow the money.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)with losing custody of her son.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Barron is like an ant on a picnic blanket to him. The only reason BigBoy would fight for him is revenge...not that that's out of the realm of possibility.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She is the only normal (relatively) parent he has. He has not shown one bit of love or affection for that child. The sooner he gets away from that monster the better.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)but he'll suffer the slings and arrows of his father's legacy for his entire life. Melly should be like Marla - take her son for a quiet(er) life elsewhere and return to her private existence, giving Barron at least the chance for some normalcy.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)siblings who have been under too much of their horrible father's influence.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)That's actually why I'm thinking that this is the threat he's hanging over her --bastard that he is.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)If she wanted to leave him, he'd just buy her off.
lame54
(35,290 posts)Trump looked at her pic in a mag and said
"I'll have that one."
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)For any mother that is the ultimate fear. You can see the fear in her face when she is with him.
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Regardless of the fact that he barely acknowledges the kid's existence. He's just that petty and vindictive. I think Omarossa is probably full of shit regarding the deportation thing, but that being said, if it turns out to be true, I won't be surprised. Nothing that asshole does surprises me anymore.
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)I am still waiting for her press conference to discuss her immigration status
thbobby
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saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Let them both reap the whirlwind. "Beauty is as beauty does", that was a warning from the most genetically gifted women of my lifetime, some were even relatives.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)so it is entirely possibly to strip citizenship if there is evidence to false claims to INS prior to becoming citizen. If she loses citizenship, her parents will also lose it automatically because she was the one who petitioned them.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)are there any recordings in Omarosa's possession that would back this claim up? She seems to have recordings of the things she's claiming and comes out with them a few days after the claim. will be interesting if there's anything on this in her collection.
bunny planet
(10,875 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)He lies and cheats non stop and then threatens them with all sorts of retribution. I have no doubt that he has threatened that shell never see her son again if she leaves him. Hes probably threatened her family, and it would be surprising if hes threatened to have her deported and or killed.
This is the type of sociopath he is.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)to leave him when Barron turns 18. And by then, he wouldnt have the power to deport her.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)But shes already put in 11 years
canetoad
(17,160 posts)From the final chapter.
"Its my opinion that Melania was forced to go to the border that day in June, essentially, to mop up her husbands mess. She wore that jacket to hurt Trump, setting off a controversy that he would have to fix, prolonging the conversation about the administrations insensitivity, ruining the trip itself, and trying to make sure that no one asked her to do something like that again. Not that Melania doesnt have compassion for immigrant children; Im sure she does. But she gladly, spitefully, wrecked her husbands directives to make him look foolish.
It was often discussed among Trumpworld intimates that Donald had something to do with Melanias obtaining a rare Einstein Visa, a.k.a. an EB-1, that gives immigrants with extraordinary ability or sustained national and international acclaim US citizenship. Many have questioned her qualifications for receiving this visa, and have speculated that Trump was able to use his networks and resources to secure it or expedite it. Since Donald is fully aware of however she acquired her permanent citizenship, he could, if there were anything fishy around it, expose the methods and somehow invalidate it. He is a vindictive man, and I would not put anything past him. If Melania were to try to pull the ultimate humiliation and leave him while hes in office, he would find a way to punish her. This is a man who has said he could pardon himself from the Mueller investigation. Why not pardon himself over an alleged visa payoff?
In my opinion, Melania is counting every minute until he is out of office and she can divorce him."
blueseas
(11,575 posts)We are dealing with a narcissist / sociopath.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)also said that t-rump and Ivanka do have a VERY special relationship and it's far from a father daughter one.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,177 posts)(Imagine that line in the voice of James Earl Jones.)
It's one of the two quotes I remember vividly from Cheech Wizard (R.I.P. Vaughn Bode), and I think of it whenever I see a picture of Ivanka giving daddy a lap dance.
A family of very special relationships, indeed.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's the visa given to victims of trafficking in persons. And as I read it by the statute she absolutely qualifies for one.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He would have to find some fraud in the process - maybe that's why he said they were going to go through naturalizations and see if there were grounds for denaturalization. However, the entire procedure would be embarrassing for him, and so I doubt he would actually go through with it - he would have to make her believe he could do it quickly so that she would voluntarily leave.
Hekate
(90,686 posts)Remember who she was "apprenticed" to for 14 years. She knows how to play his game, none better, and apparently she has managed to get under his skin like no one else, which pleases me.
But I have a feeling it's all a reality tv show to this bunch, all about who gets voted off the island next, and on and on. It would be lovely if Omarosa could be the final episode that brings her boss down, but I feel like a lot of people are being suckered into watching.
As for Melania -- we may never know. It may be an ironclad prenup threatening to impoverish her and her son. It may be that her contract with Putin isn't up yet. They don't call her the Slovenian Sphinx for nothing. I doubt she ever confided in Omarosa.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Make him seriously ill, kill him, etc. It would be harder now, of course, but I'm surprised she hasn't found a way to put him in kidney or liver failure or something.
mainer
(12,022 posts)My mother was an immigrant, and whenever she and my father disagreed, he said he'd "get her deported." It's a cruel, nasty thing and it totally strikes me as true.
lindysalsagal
(20,686 posts)She'll clean up on the book deal.
Raine
(30,540 posts)and Omarosa is a liar and a grifter, I don't believe it. I don't doubt Cheeto holds something over her but most likely custody of Barron.
Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)about life with trump.
She could call it: "Well, I really fucked up bigtime with this guy!"