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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:10 AM Aug 2018

UPDATED: 'Truth isn't truth': Rudy Giuliani has a epic meltdown over Trump testifying

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David Edwards DAVID EDWARDS
19 AUG 2018 AT 10:00 ET

Attorney Rudy Giuliani insisted on Sunday that evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians can not be taken at face value because “truth isn’t truth.” During an interview on NBC’s Meet the Press, Giuliani complained that special counsel Robert Mueller was taking too long to finish his investigation.

“Can’t you speed up Mueller’s report and can’t you have more credibility about getting Mueller’s report if you get the president to sit down with him?” NBC host Chuck Todd posited.

“Get the word credibility out of it. We have plenty of credibility,” Giuliani snapped. “It is a week and a half later and they have not responded to our letter. Now, don’t tell me that we’re delaying this if they are spending a week and a half getting back to us.”

“You believe this is on them?” Todd pressed. “That you guys have not delayed the interviewing, delayed the negotiations?”

“Yes,” the president’s lawyer insisted. “What I have to tell you is, look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he is going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, that’s silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth.”

“Truth is truth,” Todd pointed out.

“No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth,” Giuliani replied.

“Truth is a truth, Mr. Mayor,” Todd insisted. “This is going to become a bad meme.”

“Don’t do this to me!” Giuliani demanded, mocking Todd’s facial expression.

“Don’t do ‘truth isn’t truth’ to me,” Todd fired back.

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UPDATED: 'Truth isn't truth': Rudy Giuliani has a epic meltdown over Trump testifying (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
the mentally incompetent 'president' has a mentally incompetent lawyer spanone Aug 2018 #1
He sounds like a lawyer who was personally involved in this mess. Baitball Blogger Aug 2018 #12
I think he was...nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #32
They didn't know she was Russian malaise Aug 2018 #2
well, her name should have been a tiny clue..... Natalia Veselnitskaya spanone Aug 2018 #6
yeah really Takket Aug 2018 #38
Good old irish name..... lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #50
"How was I to know she was with the Russians too?" The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #20
+1 CentralMass Aug 2018 #25
"Dad, get me out of this!" dchill Aug 2018 #26
I think we've found a new song for those rallies! nolabear Aug 2018 #29
Trump steals music anyhow; at least it would be put to good use. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #30
So there it is orangecrush Aug 2018 #3
maybe Giuliani was think about his terrible dentures rurallib Aug 2018 #4
Whipped this up quick manor321 Aug 2018 #5
Ha. This meme needs to be adapted into campaign ads... SMC22307 Aug 2018 #23
Ghouliani is losing it, as well. What a pair with Trump lying and The Ghoul playing word games. Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #7
"We have plenty of credibility" gratuitous Aug 2018 #8
And this President is not the President Generic Brad Aug 2018 #9
It's just a Grand Illusion. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #10
Were you at the AV Fair last night per chance? blugbox Aug 2018 #14
No. I wish I were. It's a shame DeYoung turned out to be some sort of religious nut and was booted. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #28
They are deranged strangedaysindeed Aug 2018 #11
Dictionary JonLP24 Aug 2018 #13
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #16
They officially responded with this?! blugbox Aug 2018 #22
Poop doesn't smell, water isn't wet.... Rudy is smart. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2018 #15
Welp ... jcgoldie Aug 2018 #17
"This is going to become a bad meme." The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #18
I can't believe what a joke he is. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #19
If this were a trial, Trump would have an immediate appeal. Jim__ Aug 2018 #21
I'm not a lawyer but I play one on TV. NoSmoke Aug 2018 #35
Go ask Alice Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #24
Slick DemoTex Aug 2018 #45
todays GOP is all about alternative facts and too bad Todd thinks so poorly on his feet beachbum bob Aug 2018 #27
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #31
+1 2naSalit Aug 2018 #33
Stop having this shit for brains on the tee vee shows... pangaia Aug 2018 #34
i'm so glad he's drumpf's lawyer Takket Aug 2018 #36
Ha! Nevilledog Aug 2018 #52
I know where Giuliani got his line DFW Aug 2018 #37
Why is Mr. 9/11 given any credence? Why is he allowed to infest the airwaves spreading BS? A quick mulsh Aug 2018 #39
republicans pissing on the truth again Achilleaze Aug 2018 #40
Rudy Giuliani is not Trump's lawyer he is his rodeo clown Botany Aug 2018 #41
I thought Glen Beck had that job. 3Hotdogs Aug 2018 #44
"OUR truth isn't YOUR truth" LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #42
Is Gropenfuhrer sharing his Big Macs with the Ghoul? 3Hotdogs Aug 2018 #43
... catbyte Aug 2018 #46
+1 Botany Aug 2018 #47
The truth still matters ZeroSomeBrains Aug 2018 #48
arguing with an idiot..... lastlib Aug 2018 #53
That pause at the end was everything! AwakeAtLast Aug 2018 #49
Keep in mind: this fool is all he's got. THis is the top of his barrell. lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #51
That clip will be replayed hundreds of years from now Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #54
And slavery is freedom, blah, blah, blah. Let's party like it's 1984. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #55
They should really stop putting scatula on talk shows D23MIURG23 Aug 2018 #56

spanone

(135,832 posts)
1. the mentally incompetent 'president' has a mentally incompetent lawyer
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:13 AM
Aug 2018
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Takket

(21,568 posts)
38. yeah really
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:50 AM
Aug 2018

"Did you say Veselnitskaya? Are you related to Bob and Cindy Veselnitskaya? They were my neighbors growing up in St. Louis."

LOL

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
30. Trump steals music anyhow; at least it would be put to good use.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:21 AM
Aug 2018

Swap the usual "Proud To Be An American" crap tape for "Lawyers, Guns and Money" as Spanky walks to the podium. I'd love it.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
4. maybe Giuliani was think about his terrible dentures
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:18 AM
Aug 2018

and meant 'tooth isn't tooth'?

ETA:
"truth isn't truth" joins "alternative facts" as what the Trumpinistas are going for.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
23. Ha. This meme needs to be adapted into campaign ads...
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:51 AM
Aug 2018

with some reference to him being *President Trump's lawyer. *President Trump, very much UNLIKE the young George Washington (as referenced below...).

We're in serious Orwellian territory!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. Ghouliani is losing it, as well. What a pair with Trump lying and The Ghoul playing word games.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:21 AM
Aug 2018

Ever since The Ghoul came onboard, this last time, Trump's legal advice has been screwed up. I'm not a lawyer, but insisting that if Trump is interviewed by Mueller, he will perjure himself is saying, "My client cannot tell the truth." People can accidentally perjure themselves, but liars can't unscramble truth from lies and can perjure themselves in the same paragraph.

That's a trick, but with practice over one's life, it can be done and we're witnessing it.

Trump is no young Washington.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
10. It's just a Grand Illusion.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:24 AM
Aug 2018

.




"The Grand Illusion"


Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show
The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star.

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are


.

blugbox

(951 posts)
14. Were you at the AV Fair last night per chance?
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM
Aug 2018

Thank you so much for this post!

The lyrics say a whole lot, and i just saw them live last night!!! They rocked it so hard it was awesome!

blugbox

(951 posts)
22. They officially responded with this?!
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:47 AM
Aug 2018

If so, that is so freaking cool.

It's like in Lord of the Rings, when nature itself starts fighting back.

tRump is so awful that the damn dictionary is fighting back!

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
24. Go ask Alice
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:00 AM
Aug 2018

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head
Feed your head

Takket

(21,568 posts)
36. i'm so glad he's drumpf's lawyer
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

Because he might be the most incompetent buffoon I've ever seen.

Kellyann Conway: Alternative facts!

World: That's the dumbest excuse anyone has ever used

Giuliani: Hold my beer

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
39. Why is Mr. 9/11 given any credence? Why is he allowed to infest the airwaves spreading BS? A quick
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:00 PM
Aug 2018

"Gouliani lied aboug..." is sufficient. I'm sure even Chuck Todd could find more important and informative guests for his little chat show.

I say relelgate him to Russian asset loser flack green room with nunberg and the mooch and only let him out on days with out a "y".

Botany

(70,504 posts)
41. Rudy Giuliani is not Trump's lawyer he is his rodeo clown
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:14 PM
Aug 2018


noun: rodeo clown; plural noun: rodeo clowns
(at a rodeo) a person whose job is to distract the bull from a competitor who has been unseated in a bull-riding event, or to provide comic entertainment for an audience between events.
"for the past five years as a rodeo clown Harrison has kept riders out of harm's way"

3Hotdogs

(12,378 posts)
43. Is Gropenfuhrer sharing his Big Macs with the Ghoul?
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:18 PM
Aug 2018

Looks like 'merica's mayor put on a few pounds.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
47. +1
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:31 PM
Aug 2018

All of team Trump's lies, things they do to piss you off (shoot wolf puppies in their dens),
made up crap (US Steel is starting 6 new steel mills), and double crosses are not done by
mistake but are part of Russia, the GOP, Fox News, and Trump's Russian backed plans to
bring down America.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
48. The truth still matters
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:51 PM
Aug 2018

You can say truth isn't truth all you want ghouliani but your orwellian BS isn't gonna fly with mueller.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
54. That clip will be replayed hundreds of years from now
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:27 PM
Aug 2018

Along with alternative facts and other gems as people try to make sense of how we ended up with this president and dealt with him

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
56. They should really stop putting scatula on talk shows
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 08:37 AM
Aug 2018

All he does is tell everyone that black is white, up is down and no is yes.

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